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Spiderman: No Way Home

Crazyhole

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Not bad, but it was a bit much. Seemed like a weird way to close out the Spiderman and Stark storylines for the MCU.
 
Best Spider-Man movie and one of the best Marvel movies of All-Time.

I would have edited out the Flash Thompson bits and a couple other lame jokes from Act 1 but Act 3 is as good as it gets for a superhero film. 👍👍👍👍

*** SPOILER WARNING! ***
I would suggest not reading any further if you haven't already seen the film.
 
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Best Spider-Man movie and one of the best Marvel movies of All-Time.

I would have edited out the Flash Thompson bits and a couple other lame jokes from Act 1 but Act 3 is as good as it gets for a superhero film. 👍👍👍👍
Wow, that's really high praise. I probably wouldn't put it in my top 5 Marvel movies. Andrew Garfield really kept it from being forgettable IMO.
 
Wow, that's really high praise.
Deservedly so. The screenwriters should get loads of praise for this film. Never has the theme of a sixty-year old comic book hero (With Great Power comes Great Responsibility) ever resonated more with a mass audience.

Also, superhero movies have a tendency to rush their 3rd Acts to the grand finale. This one took the time to allow the audience to feel the emotional bond between our three Spider-men and allow EACH ONE to have their own emotional epilogue to their own Spider-man films.
Andrew Garfield really kept it from being forgettable IMO.
He was fantastic. I also liked the way they played the Peter-MJ-Ned trio like we were back in the Harry Potter film days. Their group chemistry was great.

Also, the acting of Willem Dafoe was amazing in this film. I had always thought he was the most 'underutilized' villain in any of the Spidey movies. You had the perfect Green Goblin and then you decide to HIDE the actor's expressive face behind a giant metal mask??!? WTF??? I always wondered why they did such a stupid thing in his original appearance. This one was much better.
 
Deservedly so. The screenwriters should get loads of praise for this film. Never has the theme of a sixty-year old comic book hero (With Great Power comes Great Responsibility) ever resonated more with a mass audience.

Also, superhero movies have a tendency to rush their 3rd Acts to the grand finale. This one took the time to allow the audience to feel the emotional bond between our three Spider-men and allow EACH ONE to have their own emotional epilogue to their own Spider-man films.

He was fantastic. I also liked the way they played the Peter-MJ-Ned trio like we were back in the Harry Potter film days. Their group chemistry was great.

Also, the acting of Willem Dafoe was amazing in this film. I had always thought he was the most 'underutilized' villain in any of the Spidey movies. You had the perfect Green Goblin and then you decide to HIDE the actor's expressive face behind a giant metal mask??!? WTF??? I always wondered why they did such a stupid thing in his original appearance. This one was much better.
The acting was good all the way around outside of lizard and sandman, but both probably could have just been left out of the script in the first place. Dafoe was, as usual, unbelievably good. Molina played up to his part. Maguire was good as the elder statesman of the group but not super memorable, Foxx was underutilized as one of the true villains. Garfield just had the best part in the script and frigging nailed it.

I know that Dr Strange was necessary for the plot, but the way the movie ended with his involvement could have gone differently IMO. Plot holes notwithstanding, I couldn't get at what they were trying to bring resolution to.
 
I know that Dr Strange was necessary for the plot, but the way the movie ended with his involvement could have gone differently IMO.
I liked how the screenplay downsized the whole multi-verse plotline that's now part of the MCU by having it be a simple spell that went awry.
I couldn't get at what they were trying to bring resolution to.
Spidey wanted to give the arch-villians from other Spider-man universes a 'second chance' when they returned home instead of transporting them back to die.

Dr. Strange's original messed up spell had grown so powerful it was destroying the very fabric of their world (as the audience was witnessing at the Statue of Liberty.) The only solution was for Strange to cast a new spell that made everybody forget Peter Parker. And it worked!!!
 
I liked how the screenplay downsized the whole multi-verse plotline that's now part of the MCU by having it be a simple spell that went awry.

Spidey wanted to give the arch-villians from other Spider-man universes a 'second chance' when they returned home instead of transporting them back to die.

Dr. Strange's original messed up spell had grown so powerful it was destroying the very fabric of their world (as the audience was witnessing at the Statue of Liberty.) The only solution was for Strange to cast a new spell that made everybody forget Peter Parker. And it worked!!!
Seems like they upsized it. The entire movie was predicated on the multiverse.
 
Seems like they upsized it. The entire movie was predicated on the multiverse.
I meant they had a simple explanation for the film's 'multiverses converging' plot versus having to explain to the audience the whole complicated, 'Kang/multiverses gone crazy' plot from the Loki TV series.
 
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I meant they had a simple explanation for the film's 'multiverses converging' plot versus having to explain to the audience the whole complicated, 'Kang/multiverses gone crazy' plot from the Loki TV series.
Which worked, right up until the "they're coming through and I can't stop them" line. That entire resolution was just lazy writing.
 
Which worked, right up until the "they're coming through and I can't stop them" line. That entire resolution was just lazy writing.
Lazy writing? I call it a simple line of dialogue meant to heighten the drama of the moment. The point was to make the urgency of the situation clear to Peter (and the audience).

The film's resolution was all about Peter Parker selflessly choosing to go from super-famous to super-anonymous -- even to his girlfriend and best buddy -- in order to save them and everybody else in their universe.
 
Lazy writing? I call it a simple line of dialogue meant to heighten the drama of the moment. The point was to make the urgency of the situation clear to Peter (and the audience).

The film's resolution was all about Peter Parker selflessly choosing to go from super-famous to super-anonymous -- even to his girlfriend and best buddy -- in order to save them and everybody else in their universe.
Except Dr strange didn't need his permission and he obviously could hold them back.
 
"hey Dr. Strange, can you make everyone forget Mysterio and what he did?"

"yeah sure bro"

whole dilemma solved
 
honestly though, it was a pretty good movie. Still wasn't on par with the Nolan trilogy, or Zack Snyder's trilogy. I had always wanted to see more Jamie Foxx from the Garfield movie.

pure speculation, but I feel like they're opening up a path to bring Iron-Man back. if anything, it might be an alternate universe Iron-Man to lead the charge on a soft reboot of the MCU.
 
It's a comic book movie, not the Shawshank Redemption
That's pretty much what I was saying. Quite honestly, it's pretty amazing that they made as many movies as they did in the first 3 phases without the head-scratchers until the very end.
 
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