I never saw any nutty stuff from either side from students or professors when I was in school. That was 10 years ago at this point though and I was in CoBA which would obviously lean conservative. Has it changed?
Spin-off from Cal riot thread... Is UCF a neutral campus?
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Despite what the uninformed like KL think, UCF is closer to neutral than most schools--including the faculty. Sure, you're going to have nutty loons who crap their rhetoric to their students, but there are a ton of levelheaded people who dialogue with the kids and try to see both sides.
We are a FAR cry from chapel hill or Madison, where you are excoriated for anything that's not left. I had a rough time at the former place with my views and was told by faculty that I was too controversial. Whatever.
Now, I do have some students from Iran that I am trying to help out with summer classes since I know they usually go home during that time. They are a little afraid and don't know what to do. They are really good kids who are just trying to make their way and better themselves in this country. They don't bitch and Work very hard.
We are a FAR cry from chapel hill or Madison, where you are excoriated for anything that's not left. I had a rough time at the former place with my views and was told by faculty that I was too controversial. Whatever.
Now, I do have some students from Iran that I am trying to help out with summer classes since I know they usually go home during that time. They are a little afraid and don't know what to do. They are really good kids who are just trying to make their way and better themselves in this country. They don't bitch and Work very hard.
Remember when some of the chosen people from ucf Hillel tried to agitate back in late November 2015:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ers-ucf-20151126-story,amp.html?client=safari
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ers-ucf-20151126-story,amp.html?client=safari
I hoped you'd reply and that's pretty much what I figured. I have some aunts and cousins that went to Madison and that is what I sort of compare UCF to. They indoctrinate up there, where you can pretty much just make you're own choices at UCF. It has to do a lot with leadership I'd assume and local culture plays a part. I've never met him but Hitt's from Texas so that likely plays a part.
The stress sucks for the students but the temporary ban will be over before the end of the semester.
Didn't read they were from Hillel but I'm sure you did. Sorry you missed your chance to put up your flag of choice.
When I saw the e-mail and it said something about "UCF's response to the EO" I expected a crazy leftist letter but it was fairly neutral. It doesn't mention much about the EO, just more about how we are working with students to understand what is going on and education is the key to the future etc. etc.
Here's the letter for anyone that didn't see it:
President John C. Hitt sent the following message to the campus community on Monday.
Since the White House issued an executive order suspending the entry of individuals from certain countries into the United States, UCF has worked with our international students and faculty and staff members to help understand and manage this change.
UCF has created a “Focus on Immigration” web site that will be updated as we learn more about the impact of the executive actions. Until then, we urge members of our community affected by the executive order to avoid any travel outside of the U.S.
In a broader context, education is an instrument of diplomacy. As former President Ronald Reagan said, educational and cultural exchanges make us “more sensitive and wiser international citizens.”
At its core, a university’s mission is to cultivate talent and ability without regard to religion, national origin, and other factors. I believe diversity and inclusivity make our university smarter and stronger.
Personally, my mind is drawn to the timeless words of American poet Emma Lazarus. Her most famous work, “The New Colossus,” is etched in bronze at the Statue of Liberty. Her words remind me that compassion is an innate characteristic of our great country.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
It was neutral. Omni is just out of his god damn mind.
Maybe UCF is neutral but they absolutely have hired nutjob left wingers who proudly act like jackasses. When I was there, I took some type of history course with an old, bitter asshole who spent damn near every class insulting students and attacking their parents if they worked in an industry he didn't like. He forced you to write papers describing, basically, how America has raped the world. If you didn't push that narrative correctly, he gave you a horrid grade. Everything was free response so the course was 100% subjective to whatever insanity he felt that day.
His name began with an H. can't remember the full name.
His name began with an H. can't remember the full name.
Studied in the college of electrical engineering and computer science and I also worked in the college of sciences for several years. Most people refrained from talking politics. You had a couple departments that were a little more liberal and that is to be expected, but it never felt like it was in my face. Honestly, it felt very neutral and professional.
I had a very liberal Comp 2 professor back in the mid '90's. I wrote conservative-leaning papers and she still gave me A's and never once confronted my rhetoric, nor did she admonish the guy in my class who wrote stuff on gun rights - who was expelled that semester for getting caught with an automatic rifle in his dorm room.
It's creeping though. UCF is now having "Social Justice Weeks" complete with children ball pits.
http://events.ucf.edu/event/175045/social-justice-week-lets-talk-ball-pit-conversations/
Universities are increasingly becoming left wing cesspools, complete with safe spaces and bed wetting kids. UCF may not be there yet but it'll probably happen, given that top academia are closed minded SJWs and hire like minded SJWs, aside from the 2-3% of people they allow in who dare to lean right.
It's not enough to go to college to learn a trade or a skill anymore. You must be indoctrinated with social justice sensibilities and engage in faux activism.
http://events.ucf.edu/event/175045/social-justice-week-lets-talk-ball-pit-conversations/
Universities are increasingly becoming left wing cesspools, complete with safe spaces and bed wetting kids. UCF may not be there yet but it'll probably happen, given that top academia are closed minded SJWs and hire like minded SJWs, aside from the 2-3% of people they allow in who dare to lean right.
It's not enough to go to college to learn a trade or a skill anymore. You must be indoctrinated with social justice sensibilities and engage in faux activism.
I'm sure it depends on the college, I had a some pretty liberal profs in the Honors college but my CoB classes were neutral/didn't discuss politics. My wife's undergrad was in Creative Writing (c/o 2004) and it was pretty bad but mostly against men not conservatives. She went back for a Doctorate in Curriculum Development and found it much more neutral other than a universal hatred for the common core curriculum.
Super liberal colleges have a much easier time being super liberal when they are located in super liberal states.
UCF will most likely maintain a healthy mix considering it's geographic location around Oviedo, Winter Springs, Maitland, Winter Park, etc. etc.
UCF will most likely maintain a healthy mix considering it's geographic location around Oviedo, Winter Springs, Maitland, Winter Park, etc. etc.
And I for you: you aren't Catholic and I can't take your Protestant ways seriously.
Gaslighting eh? Just celebrating getting Trump elected defying all the know it all cucks & shitlibs in here & around the world who still don't get it.
LOL, dude, all you do around here is bait, troll, and type incoherent shit that makes absolutely no sense unless it's read by: a) you or b) a drunk hobo.
More on topic: had some liberal leaning professors moreso in the gen ed realm: theatre, history, you know all the scholars of trivia classes.
Once I got in to business classes, it was 80/20 basic bitch conservatism inc. / shitlib
Once I got in to business classes, it was 80/20 basic bitch conservatism inc. / shitlib
Like a lot of geniuses well ahead of their time, very few people understand me in the present, but that's why it's a gift
Don't knock the one true way. Not my fault, but you can right the ship. I'm praying for you.
For calling it UCF's position on the topic, it really wasn't much of a position. I replied to Hitt and told him so. Told him this country's security is more important than worrying about a few snowflakes and people from terrorist sponsoring countries.
Re: Catholicism, starting to think Vatican II went too far, may need to get back to pedophiles mumbling Latin in to the wall instead of bad folk rock jamborees
The Weather and general laid back atmosphere of UCF I think helps. Not as many are going to spend time protesting and hating the 'system' when they can enjoy the Sun & cheap drink specials.
You'll never achieve that kind of coin. You should probably try Omni's church so they at least make you feel better about your chances.
That's not a protest - he should be wearing a black skimask & lighting a trash can on fire
He has a mind?? That letter was just fine. The reaction of the EO is way out of line with it. These protest have been in the works for months. 90% of Muslims were not effected, It is only for 90 days, not 90 months. Considering an American can not walk the streets in any of those countries, We need to figure out how to vet these people.
