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Stat line guess for Tacko Fall's Freshmen Year at UCF?

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When looking back at what the most recent 5's have done at UCF, I was thinking what will Tacko's stat line look like at the end of his Freshmen year.

Much of Tacko's impact won't show up in a stat sheet, especially on the defensive side of the ball (i.e. teams/players probably won't drive the lane as much...which will force them to take less percentage shots from the outside), he will still probably get a lot more block shots and rebounds vs what others did in their 1st year.

Here's how some of the current 5's did during their Freshmen Year:


Blair's Freshmen Year:
7 mins per game
1.6 pts per game
0.8 rebounds per game
0.5 blocks per game
68% FT


Karell's Freshmen Year:
Only played in 20 out of the 31 games
4.4 mins per game (in those that he played in)
0.9 pts per game (attempted only 8 shots, believe most were dunks, made them all)
0.8 rebounds per game
0.1 blocks per game
22% FT


McBride's Freshmen Year:
Played the last 15 games (was injured for the first 16)
9.3 mins per game
4.4 pts per game
2.7 rebounds per game
0.4 blocks per game
54% FT

As long as Tacko is healthy for a majority of the season, my early guess for his 1st year stat line would be:

14.4 mins per game
6.7 pts per game
7.1 rebounds per game
2.4 blocks per game
69% FT

What say you?
 
Because Tacko basically started to play organized basketball just 2-3 years ago, his improvement track might be higher vs what Blair and maybe even McBride have done since their initial season at UCF.

Look at what those 2 have done since their first year:


Blair's Freshman Year:
7 mins per game
1.6 pts per game
0.8 rebounds per game
0.5 blocks per game
68% FT


Blair's Junior Year (so far)
23.1 mins per game
7.3 pts per game
4.5 rebounds per game
1.1 blocks per game
60% FT


McBride's Freshman Year:
Played the last 15 games (was injured for the first 16)
9.3 mins per game
4.4 pts per game
2.7 rebounds per game
0.4 blocks per game
54% FT


McBride's Soph Year (so far)
14.3 mins per game
7.3 pts per game (8,1 pts per conf game)
4.8 rebounds per game
1.1 blocks per game
78.4% FT (86.7% in conf play)



This post was edited on 1/23 2:16 PM by Knight_Light
 
Well, Tacko needs to bring in some motorskill, strength, and be able to run the floor.

I really hope it pays off.

I really wish McBride would get better...quicker.

IMHO
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Originally posted by Knight_Classes_begin_7pm:
Well, Tacko needs to bring in some motorskill, strength, and be able to run the floor.

I really hope it pays off.

I really wish McBride would get better...quicker.

IMHO
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Actually, he can run the floor pretty good (will never be a super quick/fast player at his height)...but as most players do, his strength (especially in a college strength/conditioning program) will improve during his years at UCF...(vs what he has at his small private Christian school).
 
It's exciting to think about how much McBride and Blair could benefit from the presence of Tacko.
 
I hope Tako Fall can meet the expectations of your fanbase, but I think you're going to be disappointed. Just because you are 7'-6" doesn't make you into some kind of dominant college basketball player. You could almost argue that being that tall is a disadvantage. Can you name any dominant 7'-6" players? Being that tall makes it tough to run the court, difficult to post as their legs are generally not all that strong. Players that tall are usually uncoordinated too.

I'm not saying that Tako won't develop into a solid player by his Junior or Senior year, but I expect him to struggle mightily in his first season. It's going to be a big transition for him.
 
Interesting post! I am very excited about Tacko and think there is SO much potential with him. Potential WILL get him in the NBA, I just hope he stays for 2 years at UCF.

Anyways, there is a lot that goes into predicting a stat line for any freshman; talent, need at position, graduating players, and available minutes are just a few I thought of real quick. It's going to be very interesting for Tacko next year. Here are my thoughts.

Talent and Need- At UCF, Tacko's biggest talent (height) is a HUGE need for us. So this benefits him a lot. Our 2 tallest guys on the team (Karrell 6-11 and McBride 6-10) only total a combined 24 minutes. That leaves 16 minutes available at the 5 position. Currently these minutes go towards Blair (6-9) who plays the 4 and 5 and receives 23 minutes. You may not think 6'9 is small for a 5 position, but compared to a 7'6 player it is! That's like the average guy here (6'0?) guarding a 6'9 guy, 9 inch difference, PLUS additional arm reach!!

Graduating Players- this will be tough because we only have 1 senior on the team that gets a considerable amount of time, Kasey Wilson. He plays an average of 22.4 minutes per game. The downfall for Tacko is that Kasey plays a different position than Tacko, so he can't take over "those" specific minutes or position.

Available minutes- This will also be difficult for Tacko to get minutes as well because we have so many returning players and starters. Add our current roster plus Matt Williams (starter who is injured), AJ Davis (6'9 Tenn. transfer), and freshman players (McSpadden, Brown, Efianayi). Efianayi isn't a freshman but a Juco I believe. This mean A LOT of players will be searching/fighting for playing time. (Next year we will certainly see a boost in talent and performance!!)

Here is a Minutes Breakdown:
Adonys 35
BJ 33
Goodwin 32
Walker 23
Blair 23
Wilson 22 graduates
Shaheed 15
McBride 14
Karrell 10
207 total minutes (this is over the avg of 200 team minutes because of OT games and injuries)

I know I would like to see McBride play 25 mpg next year. I also hope Blair has a big coming out party for his senior year and if he performs he could get around 28 mpg. That only leaves about 7 minutes for all the incoming players.

So how many minutes does Tacko get?

Well, I personally hope he gets around 12 minutes a game. I think if he averages 4pts, 5rebs, 2 blks he will be impacting the game greatly as a freshman. Yes, I said "greatly" because currently we have nobody averaging more than 4.8 rebounds OR 1.1 blocks a game. If he leads the team in both catergories (which I believe he can) then he will also see an increase in minutes as the season goes on. Perhaps similar to McBride this year? I also hope he comes back for a 2nd year. Maybe it seems crazy at first, but it is possible that he is a "one and done".
 
"You could almost argue that being that tall is a disadvantage. Can you name any dominant 7'-6" players?" Did you really say this?

Really? Do you play basketball or know that height is very helpful for basketball? I read an article that talked about height. It says that if you are 6'6-6'8 you have a .07% of making the NBA. If you are 7 foot or taller you have a 17% chance. (Basically, if you are 7 foot or taller your chances are 243 times greater to make the NBA than if you are 6'6-6'8!!!) Height matters in basketball!

"An actual accounting of 7-footers, domestic or global, does not exist in any reliable form. National surveys by the Center for Disease Control list no head count or percentile at that height. (Only 5% of adult American males are 6'3″ or taller.)…
The curve shaped by the CDC's available statistics, however, does allow one to estimate the number of American men between the ages of 20 and 40 who are 7 feet or taller: fewer than 70 in all. Which indicates, by further extrapolation, that while the probability of, say, an American between 6'6″ and 6'8″ being an NBA player today stands at a mere 0.07%, it's a staggering 17% for someone 7 feet or taller.
Later in that SI piece, an NBA scout says that he'll "check up on anyone over 7 feet that's breathing." So while there's no guarantee of stardom, it's a pretty sure thing that any 7-footer will at least get a shot at the NBA.
That a giant like Alan Ogg or Peter John Ramos will get a chance - maybe more chances than he deserves - to stick with a team. In wild hopes he'll blossom into a Hibbert, not a Nevitt.
And that's not a tall tale."

Link- Height matters
 
Originally posted by ucf_71127:
Interesting post! I am very excited about Tacko and think there is SO much potential with him. Potential WILL get him in the NBA, I just hope he stays for 2 years at UCF.

Anyways, there is a lot that goes into predicting a stat line for any freshman; talent, need at position, graduating players, and available minutes are just a few I thought of real quick. It's going to be very interesting for Tacko next year. Here are my thoughts.

Talent and Need- At UCF, Tacko's biggest talent (height) is a HUGE need for us. So this benefits him a lot. Our 2 tallest guys on the team (Karrell 6-11 and McBride 6-10) only total a combined 24 minutes. That leaves 16 minutes available at the 5 position. Currently these minutes go towards Blair (6-9) who plays the 4 and 5 and receives 23 minutes. You may not think 6'9 is small for a 5 position, but compared to a 7'6 player it is! That's like the average guy here (6'0?) guarding a 6'9 guy, 9 inch difference, PLUS additional arm reach!!

Graduating Players- this will be tough because we only have 1 senior on the team that gets a considerable amount of time, Kasey Wilson. He plays an average of 22.4 minutes per game. The downfall for Tacko is that Kasey plays a different position than Tacko, so he can't take over "those" specific minutes or position.

Available minutes- This will also be difficult for Tacko to get minutes as well because we have so many returning players and starters. Add our current roster plus Matt Williams (starter who is injured), AJ Davis (6'9 Tenn. transfer), and freshman players (McSpadden, Brown, Efianayi). Efianayi isn't a freshman but a Juco I believe. This mean A LOT of players will be searching/fighting for playing time. (Next year we will certainly see a boost in talent and performance!!)

Here is a Minutes Breakdown:
Adonys 35
BJ 33
Goodwin 32
Walker 23
Blair 23
Wilson 22 graduates
Shaheed 15
McBride 14
Karrell 10
207 total minutes (this is over the avg of 200 team minutes because of OT games and injuries)

I know I would like to see McBride play 25 mpg next year. I also hope Blair has a big coming out party for his senior year and if he performs he could get around 28 mpg. That only leaves about 7 minutes for all the incoming players.

So how many minutes does Tacko get?

Well, I personally hope he gets around 12 minutes a game. I think if he averages 4pts, 5rebs, 2 blks he will be impacting the game greatly as a freshman. Yes, I said "greatly" because currently we have nobody averaging more than 4.8 rebounds OR 1.1 blocks a game. If he leads the team in both catergories (which I believe he can) then he will also see an increase in minutes as the season goes on. Perhaps similar to McBride this year? I also hope he comes back for a 2nd year. Maybe it seems crazy at first, but it is possible that he is a "one and done".
Good post.

One thing to remember about mins played this year is that some players are getting a lot of extra mins out of necessity (i.e. 8-9 scholarship players available per game) so the influx of up to 13 scholarship players next year, those mins will definitely fluxuate.

Also, with 5 incoming players for next season (includes redshirt AJ Davis), UCF is still one over the max of 13 scholarships so if all do enroll (Davis is already enrolled, Tacko has a 4.0 GPA...not sure about the incoming Freshmen grades...and if Efianayi stays on track for his AA...someone currently on the team not named Wilson Senior, will have to get off scholarship for a year and/or transfer).

McBride's mins have been up and down this year...sometimes against smaller/quicker post players he sits...other times against bigger 5's he plays. Also, he likes to get involved early in the game...as that seems to keep him motivated...but when he works hard to get open in the post...doesn't get the ball...his motivation/confidence slips and that usually sends him to the bench.

It was good to see him play 23 mins against a tall/quick UCONN team...as it was a great learning experience for him...but if we had a suitable substitute, he probably would have played 16 mins or so in his current condition.

This off-season will determine what McBride will do/get next year...as he has to lose at least another 25 lbs...as he is way too slow on D...but his offensive game down low is needed (plus his excellent FT shooting too).

Big loser in mins next year (if they are on the team), could be be Goodwin & Walker...as McSpadden at 6'4" as a point guard will help UCF on both ends of the floor...especially defensively, as UCF's 3 guard and sometimes 4 guard line-up is getting destroyed inside and on the boards.

AJ Davis at the 4 (more of an offensive threat than Blair) might end up as the starter next year...as UCF needs more scoring punch down low to improve their inside/outside game (Blair has done a nice job filling in at the 4 and 5...and he could play that role again next year).

Does Donnie put BJ at the point and McSpadden at the 2 or vice versa?

Can Chad Brown (6'7" wing) make immediate impact at the 3 with Efianayi? (Shaheed Davis is seeing how much more difficult Div I ball is compared to JUCO and HS).

Can Adonys become an all-around offensive player vs just sitting on perimeter shooting 3's? If he can improve his ball handling...he can drive the lane more...get fouled more...and get to the FT line (#1 or #2 best FT shooter on the team but he doesn't get many trips to the FT line because he has been mostly taken 3's).

Same for Matt Williams...can he become an all-around offensive threat vs just shooting 3's? (Or, does he see that mins might be few and far between at the 2-3 with Adonys, Chad Brown, Efianayi, plus all the other guards and decide to look elsewhere for his final 2 years? Especially since UCF needs one extra scholarship for next year).

NOTE: While both (Adonys) and Williams) need to improve their driving to the lane...more 3 opportunities will probably be open next year because of D's collapsing more around Tacko and hopefully an improved McBride.

No clue about Karell, who will be a Senior next year (if he stays on roster and/or on scholarship)...as he has provided some good defensive mins this year for Blair and McBride when they get into foul trouble or tired...but his lack of offensive game sometimes makes it 4 against 5 on the offensive side of the ball.

Having not enough mins to go around is a good thing...something UCF hasn't had the luxury off being so shorthanded by scholarship restrictions and/or using a scholarship on a transfer (Davis this year) and then dealing with early season ending injuries (Williams this year).

Having a much deeper bench will Coach Jones deal with unexpected losses to the roster.

Meanwhile...its great that BJ and Adonys are getting a ton of mins this year as that experience is so valuable...plus any mins McBride gets, thats just another step closer to him getting into better conditioning.

What I hope Jones can do is something Pitino has been able to do at Louisville...and that is having players give up (or taken away) their scholarship for their Senior year...but remain on the team...so that he can use said scholarship to sign another HS recruit.

Maybe a current UCF player could qualify for Bright Futures and/or have a family that could afford in-state tuition for one year. Don't think UCF will be able to do what UL seems to do, i.e. bag of cash just shows up at doorstep for kid who "volunteered" to go off scholarship for one year).

In regards to Tacko...just him clogging the lane will stop some players from even attempting to drive the lane...so that offensive change by opponents (having to shoot less percentage outside shots) will help UCF on the defensive end, even though that stat won't show up in a box score under Tacko.




This post was edited on 1/25 7:59 AM by Knight_Light
 
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