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I don't shop at Walmart much especially since COVID..I think part of it is I am bitter
.somehow during the early stages of the pandemic COVID mysteriously didn't spread in Wal-Mart but every small business and restaurant was deemed nonessential and closed down..

Anyway, I have noticed in Ingles here in NC and Walmart there are bare shelves
Publix not so much in that regard .

I heard Mayor Pete the other day lament how the ports are backed up but he also said the economy is rolling well based on sales. I started to think about my own business. Yes sales are up but part of that is from inflation. I have raised prices in my business. My single bite truffles went from $1.89 to $2.09 as an example..My volume has not dropped but my sales numbers have gone up. so mayor Pete attributes the supply chain issues to consumers spending. Duh, everything costs more Mayor Pete so it looks like the economy is booming .

Then I thought about a post I made in the Dungeon, or was it the ultra dungeon, I can't keep it straight anymore,but I like the Citronaut. I like it a lot. I commented that demand for his stuff would suggest a lot of people like him and I was rebuked with well not much of it is made so that's why it goes fast.

If things are in short supply and demand is the same then the appearance is that product might be high demand when it's truly not.

There is another issue not being talked about on regards to the supply chain stuff. I picked this up on a boating forum I am member of and a long haul trucker wrote a lengthy piece on the supply chain and it's not COVID ,it's the California Air Resources Board,CARB, they have regulations that prohibit trucks that are over 4 years old from entering the state of California. This guy said half of America's trucking fleet cannot enter the state at all. Then you got crazy union rules in their ports that prohibit independent truckers from hauling containers. The truck driver goes onto write between the union rules and carb the trucking industry has seen this day coming and it's here where you get cargo backed up at the ports.

Mayor Pete is a nice guy and congrats on being a dad and all,but he is either an idiot in regards to transportation and supply channels or he is lieing to the American people trying to shift the blame from ridiculous California regulations and ridiculous union demands which are the true cause of what we are seeing on store shelves.

I truly trust a long haul trucker on an internet boating forum more than Mayor Pete and the media on this issue. I also wonder why Publix doesn't appear to be facing shortages like other grocery stores. what ever they are doing they are doing it right.
 
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I don't shop at Walmart much especially since COVID..I think part of it is I am bitter
.somehow during the early stages of the pandemic COVID mysteriously didn't spread in Wal-Mart but every small business and restaurant was deemed nonessential and closed down..

Anyway, I have noticed in Ingles here in NC and Walmart there are bare shelves
Publix not so much in that regard .

I heard Mayor Pete the other day lament how the ports are backed up but he also said the economy is rolling well based on sales. I started to think about my own business. Yes sales are up but part of that is from inflation. I have raised prices in my business. My single bite truffles went from $1.89 to $2.09 as an example..My volume has not dropped but my sales numbers have gone up. so mayor Pete attributes the supply chain issues to consumers spending. Duh, everything costs more Mayor Pete so it looks like the economy is booming .

Then I thought about a post I made in the Dungeon, or was it the ultra dungeon, I can't keep it straight anymore,but I like the Citronaut. I like it a lot. I commented that demand for his stuff would suggest a lot of people like him and I was rebuked with well not much of it is made so that's why it goes fast.

If things are in short supply and demand is the same then the appearance is that product might be high demand when it's truly not.

There is another issue not being talked about on regards to the supply chain stuff. I picked this up on a boating forum I am member of and a long haul trucker wrote a lengthy piece on the supply chain and it's not COVID ,it's the California Air Resources Board,CARB, they have regulations that prohibit trucks that are over 4 years old from entering the state of California. This guy said half of America's trucking fleet cannot enter the state at all. Then you got crazy union rules in their ports that prohibit independent truckers from hauling containers. The truck driver goes onto write between the union rules and carb the trucking industry has seen this day coming and it's here where you get cargo backed up at the ports.

Mayor Pete is a nice guy and congrats on being a dad and all,but he is either an idiot in regards to transportation and supply channels or he is lieing to the American people trying to shift the blame from ridiculous California regulations and ridiculous union demands which are the true cause of what we are seeing on store shelves.

I truly trust a long haul trucker on an internet boating forum more than Mayor Pete and the media on this issue. I also wonder why Publix doesn't appear to be facing shortages like other grocery stores. what ever they are doing they are doing it right.
If the story about trucks not being allowed to enter California is true, then they are essentially holding the rest of the country hostage.

I still think there is something fishy about this whole supply chain story.
 
This is part of our problem right now.
Everyone is an expert based on some crap they read on the internet. No proof. No evidence. No critical thinking. Just read some dumb shit on the internet, form an opinion, and then voice it again.
 
Publix is out of plenty of stuff. They have signs saying supply of certain items is short all over the place.
The one here in Waynesville is well stocked especially compared to Ingles and Walmart. I have a rec teq pellet grill and have some friends who are recovering from surgery and wanted to smoke some whole chickens for them but both Ingles and Walmart were out of whole birds. I just looked up a stat on the interwebs ,the US produces about 8.9 billion chickens a year . I am not fully understanding the shortage of chicken and chicken wings in particular. Nobody seems to have a consistent answer.
 
This is part of our problem right now.
Everyone is an expert based on some crap they read on the internet. No proof. No evidence. No critical thinking. Just read some dumb shit on the internet, form an opinion, and then voice it again.
So whats the truth?
 
This is part of our problem right now.
Everyone is an expert based on some crap they read on the internet. No proof. No evidence. No critical thinking. Just read some dumb shit on the internet, form an opinion, and then voice it again.

This x100. Combined with the Dunning-Kruger effect and we have a nation full of idiots like the OP thinking they can simplify multinational supply chain issues done to a couple paragraphs and solve all our problems.
 
This is part of our problem right now.
Everyone is an expert based on some crap they read on the internet. No proof. No evidence. No critical thinking. Just read some dumb shit on the internet, form an opinion, and then voice it again.
Well this guy is known on the Hull Truth as a long time professional trucker . He speaks very knowledgeably about his industry. he hauls freight for a living all across America. So, I for one trust him. Do I trust the former Mayor of South Bend who has zero experience in transportation planning or engineering or logistics ? Nope. Now Commie, I mean Chemmie , you can trust a political hack or you can research it. I looked up what he said and he is largely correct.





I guess Chemmie these industry journals aren't good enough either . Fact is California regulations are not helping at all here .
 
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Well this guy is known on the Hull Truth as a long time professional trucker . He speaks very knowledgeably about his industry. he hauls freight for a living all across America. So, I for one trust him. Do I trust the former Mayor of South Bend who has zero experience in transportation planning or engineering or logistics ? Nope. Now Commie, I mean Chemmie , you can trust a political hack or you can research it. I looked up what he said and he is largely correct.





I guess Chemmie these industry journals aren't good enough either . Fact is California regulations are not helping at all here .

Lmao holy shit you just proved our point better than any of us could have.

You are quoting a goddamn truck driver. A truck driver. Wow. Hahahaha.
 
Lmao holy shit you just proved our point better than any of us could have.

You are quoting a goddamn truck driver. A truck driver. Wow. Hahahaha.
Can you elaborate on what Pete B’s qualifications are in logistics and transportation issues? How long has he been immersed in that industry?

Or did he just get handed what most consider an easy cabinet position for playing ball in the primaries and not shitting on Biden?
 
Lmao holy shit you just proved our point better than any of us could have.

You are quoting a goddamn truck driver. A truck driver. Wow. Hahahaha.
Also, thanks for so brilliantly demonstrating your superiority complex over blue collar people like truck drivers. They must all be stupid rednecks who don’t know anything other than clutch-brake-gas…

I’ll bet nobody who drives a truck ever wonders how their industry works beyond pick up at point A, deliver to point B. They certainly can’t read anything more than a road sign.

It’s no wonder you’re all so out of touch. You look down on everyone else and don’t even possibly consider they might be smarter and more informed than you think.
 
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Also, thanks for so brilliantly demonstrating your superiority complex over blue collar people like truck drivers. They must all be stupid rednecks who don’t know anything other than clutch-brake-gas…

It’s no wonder you’re all so out of touch. You look down on everyone else and don’t even possibly consider they might be smarter and more informed than you think.
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Responding with a New Yorker cartoon really drives home my point.

How about you refute the actual point, instead of using the insufferable whiny little bitch argument "but but the mainstream media is mean!"

You are intellectually incapable of even refuting the actual point.

The problem with arguing with morons like yourself is you are not smart enough to understand just how painfully stupid you are.
 
How about you refute the actual point, instead of using the insufferable whiny little bitch argument "but but the mainstream media is mean!"

You are intellectually incapable of even refuting the actual point.

The problem with arguing with morons like yourself is you are not smart enough to understand just how painfully stupid you are.
Why don’t YOU refute the actual point?

Literally your only response to the article that was posted was to dismiss the author because he’s “a goddamn truck driver.” Not a word about the content of the article, just immediate dismissal because his occupation is contemptible to you. But maybe an owner-operator of a truck might know something about how Cali laws are impacting… owner-operators of trucks.

I already asked what qualifications Mayor Pete has to be Transportation Secretary other than playing nice with Biden during the primary, but you ignored the question.
 
Why don’t YOU refute the actual point?

Literally your only response to the article that was posted was to dismiss the author because he’s “a goddamn truck driver.” Not a word about the content of the article, just immediate dismissal because his occupation is contemptible to you. But maybe an owner-operator of a truck might know something about how Cali laws are impacting… owner-operators of trucks.

I already asked what qualifications Mayor Pete has to be Transportation Secretary other than playing nice with Biden during the primary, but you ignored the question.


lmao you think some truck driver who's entire qualifications consist of pushing one pedal to make a truck go forward, a different pedal to make it stop; is a solid source to talk international geopolitical supply chains.

But a Rhodes scholar graduate of Harvard and Oxford, who served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy and deployed overseas then successfully served as mayor is not qualified.

It's beyond comedic how brainwashed you people have become. If only you weren't so goddamn stupid, you would be able to understand. Sadly it's a catch 22.
 
lmao you think some truck driver who's entire qualifications consist of pushing one pedal to make a truck go forward, a different pedal to make it stop; is a solid source to talk international geopolitical supply chains.

But a Rhodes scholar graduate of Harvard and Oxford, who served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy and deployed overseas then successfully served as mayor is not qualified.

It's beyond comedic how brainwashed you people have become. If only you weren't so goddamn stupid, you would be able to understand. Sadly it's a catch 22.
What did Pete do related to logistics and transportation before his appointment to the cabinet?
 
What did Pete do related to logistics and transportation before his appointment to the cabinet?

As much as I think Mayor Petey is a joke politically speaking, there's really not a lot he or anyone can do right now. Supply chains are f*cked up around the world and I deal in having limited and more expensive access to material every day.

Private industry has a massive incentive to get these supply chains fixed so if there were an easy fix, they'd already be doing it. Is there something the Government can do? Maybe. But this is happening in almost every other nation as well so it's not unique to the US.
 
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We had vinyl flooring put down recently and it took 5 months to receive the material from overseas. During our prior jobs we had the material delivered + installed in 30 days or less. We were lucky since the flooring company said that often they get material for jobs but it's incomplete or incorrect, so they are further delayed in putting it down and getting paid.

Every company has stories like this. My neighbor just bought a very basic couch from Kanes that is on a 4-6 month backorder.
 
What did Pete do related to logistics and transportation before his appointment to the cabinet?
And Ben Carson, a medical doctor, was put as head of housing and urban development under Trump. In fact, a lot of Trump’s appointees didn’t have any experience in the fields they were appointed to. so let’s quit with the cherry picking.

Now I’m one who believes intelligent people who want to succeed will and can learn on the job. But even this is something no one person can fix.
 
We had vinyl flooring put down recently and it took 5 months to receive the material from overseas. During our prior jobs we had the material delivered + installed in 30 days or less. We were lucky since the flooring company said that often they get material for jobs but it's incomplete or incorrect, so they are further delayed in putting it down and getting paid.

Every company has stories like this. My neighbor just bought a very basic couch from Kanes that is on a 4-6 month backorder.
Rooms to go is essentially letting every customer know 6-8 month back order for just about everything
 
What did Pete do related to logistics and transportation before his appointment to the cabinet?
I forgot why I stopped responding to you inbred cultists, even when I've already answered your questions you keep up a non stop onslaught idiocy.

I do enjoy you guys whining about the government to save you so you can buy more crap. A bunch of little whiny communists.
 
Rooms to go is essentially letting every customer know 6-8 month back order for just about everything

We've hit the point in this saga where sanitizer, masks, and toilet paper are abundant and cars, couches, and bacon are near impossible to find.
 
I forgot why I stopped responding to you inbred cultists, even when I've already answered your questions you keep up a non stop onslaught idiocy.

I do enjoy you guys whining about the government to save you so you can buy more crap. A bunch of little whiny communists.
The government has a responsibility to fix problems it caused by locking down the economy and incentivizing people not to work.

Who here is calling people names besides you? That’s usually a great sign that you’re bringing a lot to the discussion. Keep it up.
 
If anybody is 'locking down' the economy, it's the nutjob anti-vaxers.

No, not really. We've had plenty of anti-vaxxers here in FL but it certainly didn't lock down or slow down our economy.

If you look at the states with the worst unemployment rates right now, most of them skew towards those states that enacting the most draconian COVID measures or outright restrictions of commerce and movement.

 
Also, thanks for so brilliantly demonstrating your superiority complex over blue collar people like truck drivers. They must all be stupid rednecks who don’t know anything other than clutch-brake-gas…

I’ll bet nobody who drives a truck ever wonders how their industry works beyond pick up at point A, deliver to point B. They certainly can’t read anything more than a road sign.

It’s no wonder you’re all so out of touch. You look down on everyone else and don’t even possibly consider they might be smarter and more informed than you think.
90% are clutch brake gas
 
The government has a responsibility to fix problems it caused by locking down the economy and incentivizing people not to work.

Who here is calling people names besides you? That’s usually a great sign that you’re bringing a lot to the discussion. Keep it up.
Had to lock down because trumpers and idiots won't get vaccinated.
 
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I don't shop at Walmart much especially since COVID..I think part of it is I am bitter
.somehow during the early stages of the pandemic COVID mysteriously didn't spread in Wal-Mart but every small business and restaurant was deemed nonessential and closed down..

Anyway, I have noticed in Ingles here in NC and Walmart there are bare shelves
Publix not so much in that regard .

I heard Mayor Pete the other day lament how the ports are backed up but he also said the economy is rolling well based on sales. I started to think about my own business. Yes sales are up but part of that is from inflation. I have raised prices in my business. My single bite truffles went from $1.89 to $2.09 as an example..My volume has not dropped but my sales numbers have gone up. so mayor Pete attributes the supply chain issues to consumers spending. Duh, everything costs more Mayor Pete so it looks like the economy is booming .

Then I thought about a post I made in the Dungeon, or was it the ultra dungeon, I can't keep it straight anymore,but I like the Citronaut. I like it a lot. I commented that demand for his stuff would suggest a lot of people like him and I was rebuked with well not much of it is made so that's why it goes fast.

If things are in short supply and demand is the same then the appearance is that product might be high demand when it's truly not.

There is another issue not being talked about on regards to the supply chain stuff. I picked this up on a boating forum I am member of and a long haul trucker wrote a lengthy piece on the supply chain and it's not COVID ,it's the California Air Resources Board,CARB, they have regulations that prohibit trucks that are over 4 years old from entering the state of California. This guy said half of America's trucking fleet cannot enter the state at all. Then you got crazy union rules in their ports that prohibit independent truckers from hauling containers. The truck driver goes onto write between the union rules and carb the trucking industry has seen this day coming and it's here where you get cargo backed up at the ports.

Mayor Pete is a nice guy and congrats on being a dad and all,but he is either an idiot in regards to transportation and supply channels or he is lieing to the American people trying to shift the blame from ridiculous California regulations and ridiculous union demands which are the true cause of what we are seeing on store shelves.

I truly trust a long haul trucker on an internet boating forum more than Mayor Pete and the media on this issue. I also wonder why Publix doesn't appear to be facing shortages like other grocery stores. what ever they are doing they are doing it right.
Target and HarrisTeeter exhibiting similar conditions. What part of NC?
 
Totally. If they would have taken the damn vaccine long ago, we'd be WAY over this.
It seems like the vaccine reduces severity of the virus, still a good thing... Devil's advocate, thinking critically / hypothetically, if the vaccine did prevent transmission/contraction of Covid, and you are vaccinated, boosted, and wear a mask... What concerns do you have with others that are not vaccinated?

Similar to the seatbelt law, if your neighbor doesn't wear a seatbelt, do you care since you're not directly impacted?
 
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It seems like the vaccine reduces severity of the virus, still a good thing...
And recovery as well, removing the need for vaccination. I'll leave the rest on actually reducing transmission to the studies.

Devil's advocate, thinking critically / hypothetically, if the vaccine did prevent transmission/contraction of Covid, and you are vaccinated, boosted, and wear a mask... What concerns do you have with others that are not vaccinated?
This is where my biggest problem is, and thank you for nailing it. Especially since no one is saying 'herd immunity' and 'protect those who cannot be protected' are silent.

I.e., the mandates, narrative, etc... were all predicated on reducing spread, and even when that was obliterated as an argument, we're still pushing the argument for it, despite it not existing ... so ... what gives? Why? No scientific basis for it at all. No statistical arguement for it at all.

Similar to the seatbelt law, if you're neighbor doesn't wear a seatbelt, do you care since you're not directly impacted?
Now you're speaking my language. ;)

 
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This is part of our problem right now.
Everyone is an expert based on some crap they read on the internet. No proof. No evidence. No critical thinking. Just read some dumb shit on the internet, form an opinion, and then voice it again.
What about FDA experts?
The editorial board at the BMJ?
The data the US CDC refused to release, but the states of California and New York did for them?

The narrative is becoming unglued, and yet ... our politicians are quadrupling down, while not following those rules themselves.

When FDA expert panels rule against things, we override them, then we don't even bother with them next time, and bypass them. When the CDC experts releases guidelines that are politically untennable, we have them changed 36 hours later ... and we force them to be reviewed by the White House first.

The framers of the US, let alone James Madison who compiled the Bill of Rights from submissions of the people and their states, were not 'correct' because they were 'perfect' or 'just' people. They were correct because they recognized they themselves were hypocrites, even organized crime themselves, and they knew government is the best way to abuse power and authority, pushing things on people.

They wanted to make it the supreme law that people could disagree, and demand accountability. They wanted it so even private entities that denied avenues for speech, not just government, could not do so ... let alone not as a monopoly in cohorts with those who had a fiscal agenda, like the British Merchant Republic and its mega-corps like the West Indies or Hudson Bay Companies.

But **** all that, we're 'more enlightened' now, and what Pfzier says and what the government mandates, is just fine! Everything else is misinformation, right?!

We're outlawing discourse. Why is that? We're going against science. Why is that? We're censoring experts. Why is that?

 
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The one here in Waynesville is well stocked especially compared to Ingles and Walmart. I have a rec teq pellet grill and have some friends who are recovering from surgery and wanted to smoke some whole chickens for them but both Ingles and Walmart were out of whole birds. I just looked up a stat on the interwebs ,the US produces about 8.9 billion chickens a year . I am not fully understanding the shortage of chicken and chicken wings in particular. Nobody seems to have a consistent answer.
I think we're just returning to the norm pre-1980s, or even pre-1920s.

First off, we don't have as many people working. It's as simple as that. The logistics and other aspects have been really hit. So many realities Americans don't want to accept, but some Baby Boomers will remember.

Secondly, we're at the edge of society breaking down. It's going to get ugly. How far it goes, if it's just high inflation and more limited unrest, like late Carter, or if it goes full hyper-inflation and people starving, worse than anything seen in a century, remains to be seen.

Third, my biggest fear in either case is that we'll go full Venezuela, along with an even greater increase in censorship and the misinformation charge will be to used to full effect, claiming anyone against what the government says -- "Science!" -- will be every anti-PC label, and a threat to the government.

I really hope it won't come to that. But, alas ... we are entering a dystopian state of the American experiment, and it's coinciding with our demise as the dominate Merchant Republic, replaced by China ... who we helped create and gain access to the markets.

Because we've been spoiled by 40+ years of rampant consumerism and availability. We're going to return to being the America of a century ago, not as dominate, not as influencing, and ... we will be rebuilding our manufacturing base, as we don't have much of one any more.
 
I think we're just returning to the norm pre-1980s, or even pre-1920s.

First off, we don't have as many people working. It's as simple as that. The logistics and other aspects have been really hit. So many realities Americans don't want to accept, but some Baby Boomers will remember.

Secondly, we're at the edge of society breaking down. It's going to get ugly. How far it goes, if it's just high inflation and more limited unrest, like late Carter, or if it goes full hyper-inflation and people starving, worse than anything seen in a century, remains to be seen.

Third, my biggest fear in either case is that we'll go full Venezuela, along with an even greater increase in censorship and the misinformation charge will be to used to full effect, claiming anyone against what the government says -- "Science!" -- will be every anti-PC label, and a threat to the government.

I really hope it won't come to that. But, alas ... we are entering a dystopian state of the American experiment, and it's coinciding with our demise as the dominate Merchant Republic, replaced by China ... who we helped create and gain access to the markets.

Because we've been spoiled by 40+ years of rampant consumerism and availability. We're going to return to being the America of a century ago, not as dominate, not as influencing, and ... we will be rebuilding our manufacturing base, as we don't have much of one any more.
Haha. Do you honestly think that when we fall it will only be as bad as Venezuala? It's gonna be so much worse.
 
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