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You guys understand peoples positions can change as more information becomes available yes?
 
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The guy was more powerful than the president in 2020 (or close enough). He recommendations literally meant if people lost their jobs. He better not be constantly flip flopping and not really knowing what is going on.

Let's not forget the guy knew about gain of function in wuhun and didn't disclose it.
Still waiting on your regain of brain function. It should come any day now right?
 
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You guys understand peoples positions can change as more information becomes available yes?
So what does that say about me?

The only thing I was wrong about is how much kids spread it. They spread it an order of magnitude less than adults. I thought they spread it more, and I was wrong.

But I've been spot on with regards to everything else.
 
So what does that say about me?

The only thing I was wrong about is how much kids spread it. They spread it an order of magnitude less than adults. I thought they spread it more, and I was wrong.

But I've been spot on with regards to everything else.
Pay attention to me!!!!!

For the billionth time, you have made this about yourself. This is one of the many reasons why people think you have issues.

 
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But keep telling yourself that. It’s fun to watch you run on the hamster wheel reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
Then why has the spread not stopped, even before Delta? It has nothing to do with the unvaccinated at all. mRNA vaccines just aren't reducing the spread much at all, as predicted. They never were designed to do such at all.

You guys have been repeatedly wrong and refuse to admit such. The only thing I was wrong about is that kids spread it most when, in actuality, they don't spread it much at all. Which only solidifies my long standing argument that vaccinating kids won't help reduce the spread.

If you would have listened and repeated my information, then mandates and lock downs would have never been extended or, now, be re-implemented. They are accomplishing nothing at all but fiscal and mental ruin. Crime is rising. Conservatives are prolonging the misinformation and stupid policies as bad as Progressives by not understanding herd immunity was always impossible with mRNA vaccines.

Just finally admit you were wrong to assume that mRNA vaccines reduce the spread, and that you failed to understand it was simplistic to assume such. mRNA vaccines were never the all in one panacea and were oversold. That's the problem and why the Progressives are now able to push this control non-sense again and again.

Change the argument and never use the phrase herd immunity ever again with mRNA.

 
Then why has the spread not stopped, even before Delta? It has nothing to do with the unvaccinated at all. mRNA vaccines just aren't reducing the spread much at all, as predicted. They never were designed to do such at all.

You guys have been repeatedly wrong and refuse to admit such. The only thing I was wrong about is that kids spread it most when, in actuality, they don't spread it much at all. Which only solidifies my long standing argument that vaccinating kids won't help reduce the spread.

If you would have listened and repeated my information, then mandates and lock downs would have never been extended or, now, be re-implemented. They are accomplishing nothing at all but fiscal and mental ruin. Crime is rising. Conservatives are prolonging the misinformation and stupid policies as bad as Progressives by not understanding herd immunity was always impossible with mRNA vaccines.

Just finally admit you were wrong to assume that mRNA vaccines reduce the spread, and that you failed to understand it was simplistic to assume such. mRNA vaccines were never the all in one panacea and were oversold. That's the problem and why the Progressives are now able to push this control non-sense again and again.

Change the argument and never use the phrase herd immunity ever again with mRNA.



I didn't read any of this and figure that I triggered you to cry yourself to sleep. REEEEEEE!!!!

 
So what does that say about me?

The only thing I was wrong about is how much kids spread it. They spread it an order of magnitude less than adults. I thought they spread it more, and I was wrong.

But I've been spot on with regards to everything else.
What an incredibly insecure loser
 
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I didn't read any of this and figure that I triggered you to cry yourself to sleep. REEEEEEE!!!!

What an incredibly insecure loser
TL;DR version: Deaths are down, Spread is up ... as predicted

This is why people are listening to the US NIH and the regulators like the US FDA, not the US Media. The spread will continue until we have a real vaccine, like a live, attenuated virus vaccine, one that actually sterilizes the upper respiratory tract and generates IgA antibodies, not just IgG-predominate blood protection (against serious illness).

That's it. It's all holding 100% true, as the US NIH predicted in mid-2020.
 
TL;DR version: Deaths are down, Spread is up ... as predicted

This is why people are listening to the US NIH and the regulators like the US FDA, not the US Media. The spread will continue until we have a real vaccine, like a live, attenuated virus vaccine, one that actually sterilizes the upper respiratory tract and generates IgA antibodies, not just IgG-predominate blood protection (against serious illness).

That's it. It's all holding 100% true, as the US NIH predicted in mid-2020.
Awesome 😎. Now take this insecure, self-praised wealth of knowledge to people who can actually do something about it, not us 3rd-graders.

By the way, while you’re at it, tell them the recipe to manufacture this “real vaccine” since you’re world’s foremost expert in COVID vaccines

Just don’t tell them to put Jelly donuts and beef and bean burritos in this new, effective vaccine. You’re going to need those to survive your next unemployment stint
 
Awesome 😎. Now take this insecure, self-praised wealth of knowledge to people who can actually do something about it, not us 3rd-graders.

By the way, while you’re at it, tell them the recipe to manufacture this “real vaccine” since you’re world’s foremost expert in COVID vaccines

Just don’t tell them to put Jelly donuts and beef and bean burritos in this new, effective vaccine. You’re going to need those to survive your next unemployment stint
honest question, i'm not interested in reading the full lore of yalls arguments. i see your side of "sooner we all get vaccinated, the sooner things go back to normal", and i think thats an admirable aim, but do you really think the leftists in charge want to go back to normal anytime soon? no matter what happens, this was always going to be pushed until the midterms at least.
 
honest question, i'm not interested in reading the full lore of yalls arguments. i see your side of "sooner we all get vaccinated, the sooner things go back to normal", and i think thats an admirable aim, but do you really think the leftists in charge want to go back to normal anytime soon? no matter what happens, this was always going to be pushed until the midterms at least.
I’m a conservative, but this virus and vaccines has never been political for me. That’s why it seems that I’m posting as a leftist. I’m sure that it seems bizarre.

I’m not sure why they wouldn’t want things to get back to normal, because right now Biden is no better than Trump in handling this and they are looking pretty pathetic
 
honest question, i'm not interested in reading the full lore of yalls arguments. i see your side of "sooner we all get vaccinated, the sooner things go back to normal", and i think thats an admirable aim, but do you really think the leftists in charge want to go back to normal anytime soon? no matter what happens, this was always going to be pushed until the midterms at least.
My personal and professional goals are being severely hampered by this and my work days are hell. Additionally, I’m tired of my elderly mother texting me with her BS California restrictions. Lol

Additionally, it would be nice not to have people die and have football with full stadiums and tailgating. That’s being threatened

So.,, because of the above, I loathe anti-vaxxers. Especially closet ones like @UCFBS who is quite vocal and frankly dangerous
 
My personal and professional goals are being severely hampered by this and my work days are hell. Additionally, I’m tired of my elderly mother texting me with her BS California restrictions. Lol

Additionally, it would be nice not to have people die and have football with full stadiums and tailgating. That’s being threatened

So.,, because of the above, I loathe anti-vaxxers. Especially closet ones like @UCFBS who is quite vocal and frankly dangerous
You should redirect your anger. It isn't people that are not getting vaccinated that are affecting your life, it's the people that are villainizing them to get others worked up.
 
You should redirect your anger. It isn't people that are not getting vaccinated that are affecting your life, it's the people that are villainizing them to get others worked up.
50% of the country is vaccinated Just stop. Hospitals are flooded with almost exclusively non-vaccinated people
 
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50% of the country is vaccinated Just stop. Hospitals are flooded with almost exclusively non-vaccinated people
Why are hospitals flooded with covid patients if there is no approved treatment for it? What are the doctors and nurses doing to treat these patients?
 
I’m a conservative, but this virus and vaccines has never been political for me. That’s why it seems that I’m posting as a leftist. I’m sure that it seems bizarre.

I’m not sure why they wouldn’t want things to get back to normal, because right now Biden is no better than Trump in handling this and they are looking pretty pathetic
they don't care about the optics of Biden's performance, they have 90% of the MSM media and social media on their side to write whatever narrative they want and silence those who disagree.

the reason they don't want things to go back to normal is because this allows them to abuse the fraudulent mail-in ballot system. you can't expect them to follow the normal line of logic or rules. its as simple as the fact that they have a president whose vice president vilified him as a terrible racist only a matter of months ago. you're not going to out-logic these people, the only choice is to say "dont care, go **** yourself".
My personal and professional goals are being severely hampered by this and my work days are hell. Additionally, I’m tired of my elderly mother texting me with her BS California restrictions. Lol

Additionally, it would be nice not to have people die and have football with full stadiums and tailgating. That’s being threatened

So.,, because of the above, I loathe anti-vaxxers. Especially closet ones like @UCFBS who is quite vocal and frankly dangerous
i don't disagree with you on any of that. i guarantee that if the threat of covid was reduced to nearly 0, the new narrative would be "well actually, all flu-related cases and deaths are down as a whole so this is just the progressive way to live clean and safe!" this is their new fight, hence why they've essentially abandoned climate change

50% of the country is vaccinated Just stop. Hospitals are flooded with almost exclusively non-vaccinated people
unless i'm reading something incorrectly, we've reached 70%. and what a shock, as soon as that milestone is reached they're trying to rile up hysteria over these new variants.

this isn't going to stop by continuing to submit. america didn't gain its independence by saying "oh sure, we'll continue to pay your taxes, cuz you pinky promised to leave us alone eventually"
 
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honest question, i'm not interested in reading the full lore of yalls arguments. i see your side of "sooner we all get vaccinated, the sooner things go back to normal", and i think thats an admirable aim, but do you really think the leftists in charge want to go back to normal anytime soon? no matter what happens, this was always going to be pushed until the midterms at least.
But we'll need something else than a mRNA or inactivated virus vaccine. That's what people don't realize, and I've long warned.
 
But we'll need something else than a mRNA or inactivated virus vaccine. That's what people don't realize, and I've long warned.
you're not changing any minds. i dont personally think the vaccine is the mark of the devil, i think the way the government is behaving about it is absoutely tyrannical, though.
 
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you're not changing any minds. i dont personally think the vaccine is the mark of the devil, i think the way the government is behaving about it is absoutely tyrannical, though.
Fortunately or unfortunately, the government is going to increase the pressure to get vaccinated more and more everyday and restrict the unvaccinated more and more. There’s really nothing that anyone can do about it. Personally, I’m vaccinated, so it doesn’t effect me.
 
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unless i'm reading something incorrectly, we've reached 70%. and what a shock, as soon as that milestone is reached they're trying to rile up hysteria over these new variants.
We are not at 70%. They are going to keep using that against us until we are at least at that number. Only then, will the public have a true argument. When that happens, people are going to say screw this. Live with it or get a better vaccine.


At this point it’s ridiculous for vaccinated people to wear masks. That’s total BS.
 
Fortunately or unfortunately, the government is going to increase the pressure to get vaccinated more and more everyday and restrict the unvaccinated more and more. There’s really nothing that anyone can do about it. Personally, I’m vaccinated, so it doesn’t effect me.
Except you will be affected by lockdowns and mask mandates. They won't differentiate between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
 
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Except you will be affected by lockdowns and mask mandates. They won't differentiate between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
People aren’t going to be locked down anymore. After everyone is vaccinated, the vaccinated aren’t wearing a mask. Many aren’t now
 
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People are going to be locked down anymore. After everyone is vaccinated, the vaccinated aren’t wearing a mask. Many aren’t now
I think you're underestimating the psychological effects that came with 2020. People like you and I might push back against mandates like that, but there are a lot of people that will villainize you for not complying with "regulations".
 
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People are going to be locked down anymore. After everyone is vaccinated, the vaccinated aren’t wearing a mask. Many aren’t now
i think this is where our fundamental disagreement lies.

i have no reason to believe that a regime that used this to put themselves in a position of power is going to disarm themselves of that power anytime soon. it reminds me of, "just wait until they finally investigate [insert corrupt leftist/FBI agent], then things will really swing back and they'll get off of Trumps case!"

they're never going to play by rules that normal people know to be fair
 
honest question, i'm not interested in reading the full lore of yalls arguments. i see your side of "sooner we all get vaccinated, the sooner things go back to normal", and i think thats an admirable aim, but do you really think the leftists in charge want to go back to normal anytime soon? no matter what happens, this was always going to be pushed until the midterms at least.
That makes absolutely no sense. Politically, stamping out the virus is the best possible outcome for democrats prior to the mid-terms. This delta-variant wave is purely a Biden administration event. Cases were at a trough like 6 weeks ago. Biden wanted to do a victory lap not go through this.
 
That makes absolutely no sense. Politically, stamping out the virus is the best possible outcome for democrats prior to the mid-terms. This delta-variant wave is purely a Biden administration event. Cases were at a trough like 6 weeks ago. Biden wanted to do a victory lap not go through this.
Of course it makes no sense. Look who you are dealing with. The “regime” didn’t win the election because liberal states imposed unpopular Covid restrictions. The governors of those states have come under fire. It has undermined democrats. Trump lost because he wasn’t facing Hillary Clinton anymore and close states that he won last time (with GOP governors) like Georgia and Wisconsin flipped blue.
 
you're not changing any minds. i dont personally think the vaccine is the mark of the devil, i think the way the government is behaving about it is absoutely tyrannical, though.
Absolutely. And the US CDC and WHO have lost a lot of credibility too.

The US NIH continues to be my resource, and the US FDA did its job as well. Had doctors actually taken complications more seriously, the US FDA wouldn't have needed warning labels. It's sad because it was so easily mitigated by just telling people not to get the 2nd shot. But nope ... same thing with not using VEARS in 5 out of 6 cases.

We provide all the resources and tooling, but then we have an US media that spreads misinformation.
 
That makes absolutely no sense. Politically, stamping out the virus is the best possible outcome for democrats prior to the mid-terms. This delta-variant wave is purely a Biden administration event. Cases were at a trough like 6 weeks ago. Biden wanted to do a victory lap not go through this.
victory lap of what? getting people to take Trumps vaccine?

 
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