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The face of systemic racism

That is a common interaction pattern unfortunately. Also, notice at 10 minutes in, after being placed in the back of the police car, the woman starts yelling at the top of her lungs that she can’t breathe. This is also common. As is the hostile crowd with cell phones out.

Worst part is that, if she had just calmed down at the beginning, she would’ve been fine and the error in the system would’ve been corrected. Apparently the first videos came out from bystanders and led to protests. Of course, the bystander videos were incomplete.

And now... for the rest of the story:

“The woman ultimately was charged with interfering with police and reckless endangerment, but she was not injured, police said.

It was only later, however, that police discovered the car was not reported stolen. Instead, it was flagged on the hotsheet because the vehicle and the male passenger in the car were wanted in connection with a recent report of gunfire in New Britain, Cicero said.

But during the tumult of the woman’s arrest, that man slipped away from the scene with the woman’s daughter and was not arrested.”

 
That is a common interaction pattern unfortunately. Also, notice at 10 minutes in, after being placed in the back of the police car, the woman starts yelling at the top of her lungs that she can’t breathe. This is also common. As is the hostile crowd with cell phones out.

Worst part is that, if she had just calmed down at the beginning, she would’ve been fine and the error in the system would’ve been corrected. Apparently the first videos came out from bystanders and led to protests. Of course, the bystander videos were incomplete.

And now... for the rest of the story:

“The woman ultimately was charged with interfering with police and reckless endangerment, but she was not injured, police said.

It was only later, however, that police discovered the car was not reported stolen. Instead, it was flagged on the hotsheet because the vehicle and the male passenger in the car were wanted in connection with a recent report of gunfire in New Britain, Cicero said.

But during the tumult of the woman’s arrest, that man slipped away from the scene with the woman’s daughter and was not arrested.”


Everybody should be impressed with the police in this situation. They were completely professional in how they dealt with her. She was completely unhinged and attracted a mob that put the cops in a very dangerous situation but they maintained control and nobody was hurt. I was particularly impressed with the officer trying to show her that her car had been flagged and tried to explain the situation, almost to the point of being apologetic.
 
Everybody should be impressed with the police in this situation. They were completely professional in how they dealt with her. She was completely unhinged and attracted a mob that put the cops in a very dangerous situation but they maintained control and nobody was hurt. I was particularly impressed with the officer trying to show her that her car had been flagged and tried to explain the situation, almost to the point of being apologetic.
Ultimately, as more interactions occur there is a strong possibility that black people (and white) are going to be exposed more than the police by these videos. The police can control themselves better than what we are seeing in recent videos
 
Ultimately, as more interactions occur there is a strong possibility that black people (and white) are going to be exposed more than the police by these videos. The police can control themselves better than what we are seeing in recent videos
This is the double-edged sword of the body camera outcry from a couple of years ago and why you don’t hear so many of the BLM activists demanding them anymore. They thought that police all over the country would be caught behaving badly regularly. In actuality, there just isn’t that much police malfeasance going on and the cameras are by and large showing police acting professionally.

As it turns out, the bystander videos are much more powerful to the cause because they are nearly all edited to the point where any narrative can be spun and not refuted. It’s not until the full videos are released that the police get a fair shake and by then it’s normally too late to head off the runaway narrative.
 
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As it turns out, the bystander videos are much more powerful to the cause because they are nearly all edited to the point where any narrative can be spun and not refuted. It’s not until the full videos are released that the police get a fair shake ...
Yeah, the bystander video of George Floyd's arrest 'spun an unfair narrative' that couldn't be refuted by police. [eyeroll]
 
Yeah, the bystander video of George Floyd's arrest 'spun an unfair narrative' that couldn't be refuted by police. [eyeroll]
You prove my point. The bystander video of the Floyd interaction left out a huge amount of context that will be important in court. That, coupled with the tic screens and police procedures manuals, are needed for a fair shake. Does it mean Chauvin is innocent of a crime, I don’t know? I’m still thinking manslaughter on Chauvin but there certainly are a lot of factors the bystander video doesn’t show.
 
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Oh is this the general black people thread now? What does this have to do with OP?
Its another example of systemic racism. She is proving that a black man can't be in a position of power unless he's a slave trader. Otherwise he would live in the hood and be hunted by cops every day.
 
I’m still thinking manslaughter on Chauvin but there certainly are a lot of factors the bystander video doesn’t show.
On one hand, you say I proved your point that videos like the Floyd one leave out "a huge amount of context" but on the other hand, you're "still thinking manslaughter." Funny how that works.

Tell me with a straight face that these officers would still have been charged if there hadn't been a bystander's cellphone video.
 
On one hand, you say I proved your point that videos like the Floyd one leave out "a huge amount of context" but on the other hand, you're "still thinking manslaughter." Funny how that works.

Tell me with a straight face that these officers would still have been charged if there hadn't been a bystander's cellphone video.
He wouldn't have been, and a big part of why he will be convicted of manslaughter is not due to the video, but to the response to the video. All things being equal (which they aren't), the autopsy showing Floyds toxicology would have been the determining factor in whether he was criminally charged. In this case, the narrative got way out in front of the facts and unfortunately thats just a way of life now that we have to navigate.
 
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He wouldn't have been
I appreciate your honesty. Everyone on this board knows that to be the case.
he will be convicted of manslaughter is not due to the video, but to the response to the video.
If that's true, it's very disappointing that their response was due to political pressure rather than a quest for justice. (Gee, I wonder why protesters would ever get the impression that Black lives don't matter to police?)
All things being equal (which they aren't), the autopsy showing Floyds toxicology would have been the determining factor in whether he was criminally charged.
One would expect for Floyd's toxicology report to be a consideration. But on the other hand, it shouldn't trump eye-witness evidence of an officer with his knee on the neck of a man begging for his life. (Oh, I forgot, sk8 says this is a common 'ploy' by Black suspects under arrest.)
 
I appreciate your honesty. Everyone on this board knows that to be the case.
If that's true, it's very disappointing that their response was due to political pressure rather than a quest for justice. (Gee, I wonder why protesters would ever get the impression that Black lives don't matter to police?)
One would expect for Floyd's toxicology report to be a consideration. But on the other hand, it shouldn't trump eye-witness evidence of an officer with his knee on the neck of a man begging for his life. (Oh, I forgot, sk8 says this is a common 'ploy' by Black suspects under arrest.)
Does the toxicology report matter to you? Objectively speaking it should be a really big deal and create a lot of doubt on whether Chauvin should be convicted or not. Does the video that shows the entire encounter affect your opinion, or does the 7 minute viral video still dictate it?
 
I appreciate your honesty. Everyone on this board knows that to be the case.
If that's true, it's very disappointing that their response was due to political pressure rather than a quest for justice. (Gee, I wonder why protesters would ever get the impression that Black lives don't matter to police?)
One would expect for Floyd's toxicology report to be a consideration. But on the other hand, it shouldn't trump eye-witness evidence of an officer with his knee on the neck of a man begging for his life. (Oh, I forgot, sk8 says this is a common 'ploy' by Black suspects under arrest.)

Chauvin is going to get off, as he should, and it’s gonna be hilarious how mad you’ll be
 
So Alex Marlow (nobody) makes a comment about a BLM activist (another nobody) who made a comment about the KY AG. Why is this news? Tweeter makes nobodies think that their opinions matter.
Hey look, it’s the Burn, Loot, and Murder MO in action. Whenever an activist says something that they all believe but isn’t received well in the public, act like they’re nobody and disavow all connections.

Except this “nobody” is Woman’s March cofounder Tamika Mallory. A woman who’s parents founded the National Action Network with Al Sharpton. Who was a darling of both feminist and black activists nationally for years, including Democrats and especially “The Squad,” until they had to disavow her over anti-Semitic comments. As social justice warriors go, she’s a verified blue blood.
 
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