The Origins of Jihadist-Inspired Attacks in the U.S.
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Tldr. I assume it blames global warming and the US for being big meanies (particularly white conservatives).
The media would have you believe these terrorists were Muslim, but the reality is each one was actually a confederate flag waving White racist evangelical Huckabee/Cruz fan.
It's making the case that radicalized Americans and people here on visas are the ones committing terrorist acts. The implication is, of course, that we have nothing to worry about from refugees because refugees haven't committed terrorist acts on US soil since 9/11.
Anyone that thinks this is a good argument is an idiot.
Anyone that thinks this is a good argument is an idiot.
Notice how the right-wingers, in their native web forum habitat, seem adverse to the slightest bit of observed fact. The mere thought of educated discussion fills them with fear. Most commonly, the proposition of educated discussion is met with hubris, sarcasm, or some other form of defensive posturing. Incapable of free thought, or changing their minds, they resort to these methods as a deflection of any evidence that might even possibly be perceived as offering a contrarian argument. Disgusted, the original poster often flees the thread while shaking their head, knowing the educated and objective link they posted was ignored in lieu of pig-headed stubbornness and Fox News "facts."
That's rich coming from the guy that resorts to calling everyone bigots and racists anytime someone disagrees with him.
Chemmie is just hoping that some of these refugees provide some semen with s new flavor to put on top of his scrambled eggs do he can say they are better than ours
There have been refugees here who have become terrorists. Liban Haji Mohamed is one. Several other Somali refugees have left Minnesota and are currently fighting with ISIS. If allowed to reenter they would probably seek to create an act of terrorism here.
Your educated oberved fact president kept on keepin on & we keep on getting terrorists. Obama for peace.
I guess it all depends on your definition of refugee. A refugee can become a naturalized citizen. This is typical of the left, trying to come to conclusions that the moronic can understand but fall apart quickly if you take the five minutes to debunk.
By the way, nothing in the link talks about the "origins" of terrorism in the US. It shows who carried out the attacks and when; it doesn't say a thing about how or when they were radicalized, or who helped radicalize them.
If we bought every Muslim Male in the Middle east a 6500 btu window unit, all of this would stop.
Apparently you don't remember Secretary Powell going before the UN and laying out the case for action. This wasn't some shadowy terrorist action and it didn't happen overnight. Saddam was in violation of UN resolutions and was given not only clear consequences but also clear courses of action to avoid an enforcement of the resolution. He failed to do so and we went in. You can agree with the intelligence that formed the basis for the threat or not, but they did follow a very arduous process to get there.
Now, to equate this with terrorist activities that have been ongoing since well before any US troops "invaded" is just asinine. I'm sure you know that a great number of the people that the US was fighting in Iraq were not Iraqis and thus did not have their country "invaded." You're just trying to be cute and instead being stupid.
Right. Our intervention in the rest of the world affairs started ~10-20 years ago. Those little things that happened in 1948, throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's are not related to the issues today, at all.
Plus, if Saddam just listened to our laws like Americans obey our guns laws here, there would be no problems. Laws will fix everything if they are just bombed... errr.. enforced.
Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. You said invaded, so I followed up by exploring the invasion angle. If you want to pivot towards influence, then we can discuss that, but you'll find that America has been influenced by a great number of external entities and we haven't gone "Red Dawn."
Half of them were already criminals or a threat in the US.
Half of them were born in the US and radicalized.
The right-wingers aren't wrong about one thing ...
It's time for Muslim Americans to start holding their own accountable.
Just like we don't condone and will do turn in radical Christians who threaten to shoot abortion doctors.
Half of them were born in the US and radicalized.
The right-wingers aren't wrong about one thing ...
It's time for Muslim Americans to start holding their own accountable.
Just like we don't condone and will do turn in radical Christians who threaten to shoot abortion doctors.
Influenced? Like influence with 85+ foreign military bases in US borders. Or having bombs dropped on us or our neighbors?
Look, our public policy is "protect America interests." That translates to we will bomb you if you mess up our oil supply lines bc America is interested in oil. See Libya and Egypt.
When a blood thirty and the most powerful empire who spend more on it's military than the whole world combined threatens you, it's not influence, it's a potential evasion.
Ah, no ...
The US policy, since 1956, is "we will secure petroleum for the world, especially since the EU uses far more from the Middle East than we do."
Insert the 1953 Iranian Coup, to the benefit of the UK, followed by the 1956 US reverse (anti-UK, and anti-French) in the Suez incident, where the US threatened to bomb the UK Pound into worthlessness. Since then, the US has become defacto military police for EU's resources, even more than our own, allowing the UK and France to shrink their armies.
We have almost everything we need -- sans rare Earth metals -- in the Americas. Most of the latter are in China, hence our strategic relationship with the Chinese since the '70s (along with being anti-Soviet at the time).
Which is why I want to pull back to the Americas ... and force the EU to secure it's own resources.
