The Real China Issue

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  1. fried-chicken

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    Effing horrible.
     
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    I’ve actually said exactly this a few times now so let’s document this rare convergence of total agreement
     
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    We already know that they are having Rhinos in South Africa killed for their tusks and using them for medicinal purposes, so I wouldn’t put it past them
     
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    It's not a matter of if they are doing it or not. China is killing and harvesting the organs of "thought" prisoners who's only crime is their beliefs. This isn't a country we should be doing any business with and not because they are stealing our IP or whatever. We should partner with the EU and shut them out of the world's market for government sponsored genocide.
     
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    wait so you agree with trump with tarriffs on china now?
     
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    Forget tariffs. I'd like to hear a moral argument that justifies any trade with them with this going on. And if the argument has anything to do with economy stop and try again.
     
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    The problem is that the West and the world let the genie out of the bottle and no one wants to put it back in. We decided long ago to trade with China with little to no requirements of reform or human rights advances, we started buying tons of their shit, and they maintained their communist regime and emboldened it by building wealth in the country.

    They know they can do this and pay no price for it. People here in the US would cry their eyes out if they had to pay more for their beloved iPhone if it weren't made in a hellhole running a modern day holocaust that allowed Apple to produce it for dirt cheap.

    Muslims in concentration camps? That sucks. Where's my $399 iPhone!?
     
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    Western countries should end all trade with China and companies should shut down all business operations in the country as long as the government is sponsoring genocide.
     
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    And most Chinese people have no idea since their government runs all of the media, bans foreign social media platforms, and watches everything communicated out of the west regions where this is happening
     
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    Which is why we should all be supporting Hong Kong in everything they can do to resist.
     
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    look at chicken taking a moral stand.
     
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    China is a big problem on every level. Hell their plan was to completely dominate everything in gain full world power. Not even hidden with their plans.
     
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    This is really fuking me up.. like on a visceral level. I'm under no delusion that terrible things aren't happening all over but the way I process this story in my head, in this nothing comes in or out black box of China, really has me disturbed. Imagine the lengths they'll go with the animal human hybrid stuff.
     
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    Slow down there. China does terrible things left and right but I don't think they have any sort of plan for world domination. They want to be equal to the US in power and influence but they have to know that they can't dominate the world.
     
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    That’s not how they view things. They absolutely do want to emerge as the new, sole world power but their time horizon for success is much longer than ours since they’re such an ancient nation.
     
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    This thread is probably as good of a place to put this as anywhere: I've mentioned before that I get together with a Catholic Monsignor every week for a couple of hours just to talk and bs about stuff. Last night he absolutely floored me with a bit of information that I never would have guessed to be true. He said of all of the world's religions, the one that is most hostile to Christianity at it's core is Hinduism. He said that there are circumstances where Hindus will not only persecute Christians but demand that they reject their baptism. I never thought of Hindus as an oppressive religious group but apparently they can be every bit as vicious as Muslims.
     
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    Spend some time and read about the Hindu RSS in India. They’re a brutal group and one of their guys shot and killed Ghandi for playing too nice with the Muslims.
     
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    This will back fire on them to epic proportions. It’s just going to take time. This will only further radicalize people and before long other Muslims will also be shouting “death to China.”
     
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    No. China views itself as the Middle Kingdom (not just the earth) and as they see it are just now breaking out of the long humiliation. Things will get more sporty, not less.
     
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    Has anyone of note spoken out on this? I figured there would be more coverage.
     
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    no
     
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    And they are still and will always be one of our biggest trade partners and they own a lot of our debt. It baffles me how much of a financial relationship we have with a country that we consider our enemy.
     
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    I think it baffles me how Trump is slamming the hell out of them publicly, but still appears to maintain a friendship with President Xi

    The only explanation is that our trade with China is much more than anyone realizes. We are holding the cards.

    We found that out about Mexico a few weeks ago.


    This explains a lot of our leverage

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    https://apnews.com/654b02d9815743ca947119f7ac18e049

    China’s growth cools further as tariff war pressures mount

    China’s economic growth sank to its lowest level in at least 26 years in the quarter ending in June, adding to pressure on Chinese leaders as they fight a tariff war with Washington.


    trump doesnt know what hes doing.*
     
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    They can’t win
     
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    It's telling that we can't get a single condemnation of China running (actual) concentration camps from any of the tech and social media giants that love to preach to us almost daily about everything. I guess "religious minorities being imprisoned, tortured, and killed by the millions" isn't quite important enough to warrant a moral lecture.
     
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