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Covid deaths pushing toward 5k per day.

Is Covid-19 worse than the flu?


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Diamond Knight
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The flu kills about 40,000 people per year. That's 109 per day.

Deaths per day:
3/17 - 23
3/18 - 40
3/19 - 56
3/20 - 49
3/21 - 46
3/22 - 113
3/23 - 141
3/24 - 225
3/25 - 247
3/26 - 268
3/27 - 400
3/28 - 525
3/29 - 363
3/30 - 573
3/31 - 912
4/1 - 1049
4/2 - 969
4/3 - 1309
4/4 - 1331
4/5 - 1165
4/6 - 1255
4/7 - 1966
4/8 - 1943
4/9 - 1901
4/10 - 2035
4/11 - 1830
4/12 - 1528
4/13 - 1535
4/14 - 2405
4/15 - 2783
4/16 - 2175
4/17 - 2616
4/18 - 1867
4/19 - 1561
4/20 - 1939
4/21 - 2806
4/22 - 2341
4/23 - 2358
4/24 - 1959
4/25 - 2065
4/26 - 1157
4/27 - 1384
4/28 - 2470
4/29 - 2390
4/30 - 2201
5/1 - 1897
5/2 - 1691
5/3 - 1153
5/4 - 1324
5/5 - 2350
5/6 - 2558
5/7 - 2119
5/8 - 1687
5/9 - 1422
5/10 - 750
5/11 - 1008
5/12 - 1630
5/13 - 1772


Let's look back to the idiots who downplayed the actions that we need to take. Their acceptance of our half assed response has allowed politicians the cover they need to not close beaches and wait too long to take action on countless other things. If the country was united in demanding extreme action we would look more like South Korea and less like Italy.

Here are the chuds:



From CDC, in US 1573 as of yesterday have Corona Virus. 40 have died.
Since Oct., 34 mil to 49 mil have caught the flu. 350 k to 650k have been hospitalized. 22k to 52k have died. Yep lets freak out over the Corona virus.

Don't be a wuss. Everything will be fine. The world isn't ending over the flu.

the best thing I could come up with is that Chinese people have the flu and Trump isn't personally stopping it.


Meh, it ain't no Swine flu.

I do think its being overblown.
 
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The flu kills about 40,000 people per year. That's 109 per day.

60 died yesterday
40 the day before that
20 the day before that

Let's look back to the idiots who downplayed the actions that we need to take. Their acceptance of our half assed response has allowed politicians the cover they need to not close beaches and wait too long to take action on countless other things. If the country was united in demanding extreme action we would look more like South Korea and less like Italy.

Here are the chuds:

Up your ass, chicken. If you couldn't tell that that was sarcasm, then you're fukcing dumber than you look.
 
We are 60 days in from likely patient 0 arriving in the US. With an R0 value of 2.0-2.2 we are looking at between 65k and 300k infected are this point in the US. In 32 more days we will be looking at likely at least 17 million infected.
 
The flu kills about 40,000 people per year. That's 109 per day.

60 died yesterday
40 the day before that
20 the day before that

Let's look back to the idiots who downplayed the actions that we need to take. Their acceptance of our half assed response has allowed politicians the cover they need to not close beaches and wait too long to take action on countless other things. If the country was united in demanding extreme action we would look more like South Korea and less like Italy.

Here are the chuds:
[jumpingsmile][jumpingsmile][jumpingsmile][jumpingsmile]:):):)
 
Based on 250 deaths in the US right now it means 8-12 days ago there were likely 27k infections in the US (using the 0.9% fatality rate). Meaning R0 is closer to 2.2 than 2.0 and the number infected is probably on the higher end of the range I stated.
 
So you're backtracking which is fine. Just wanted to be clear you didn't think 17 million people would be infected in the United States.
Yes 17 million will be infected in the US. Given the number of deaths we are seeing now, we are up to 2 weeks removed from 25k+ infected which means an R0 of close to 2.2. Nobody on earth has immunity. Isolation will only work for as long as we implement it (unlikely to last until a vaccine is ready).
 
To put into perspective. Flu has an R0 of around 1.2 and an estimated 19-74 million (depending on the season) are infected yearly. 17 million is less than 5% of the US population. It’s early. 8 NBA teams have tested with 10 positives (about 7.5%).
 
I found one from January.


The concern with viruses like this is that IF not contained, it could dwarf that number since influenza is something we fully understand and can vaccinate / treat for. New viruses can take time to develop treatments for.

Luckily modern containment procedures are really good but otherwise, the death toll could make influenza look like a cakewalk

Buuuuuuurn*
 
lol dude if this is the best you got then your stupid little thread is going to die a worse death than all of the other supremely dumbass threads you’ve made over the last 4 years
You did say it was going to be gone in 2 months a little under a month ago.
 
112 died yesterday so we went from 55% to 103% of the average daily flu deaths in one weekend.

The virus is already more deadly than the flu. Anyone think we've reached the peak yet? Anyone still downplaying the severity?
 
112 died yesterday so we went from 55% to 103% of the average daily flu deaths in one weekend. The virus is already more deadly than the flu. Anyone think we've reached the peak yet? Anyone still downplaying the severity?
The severity? Sigh...yet ANOTHER "TDS" poster!!!

My President told us weeks ago that his Administration has this thing under control. We locked down the borders thanks in large part to his 'unprecedented' travel ban -- that MANY argued against -- that has kept us from experiencing a major outbreak like you saw in China, South Korea, or Italy.
 
17 million infected in the United States? No way

We have a really hard time grasping exponential growth, even when you understand it conceptually.

With exponential growth, going from case 1 to 1,000 takes the same amount of time as going from case 1,000 to 1 million, which is the same time as going from 1 million to 1 billion. Of course, with mitigation you slow the transmission rate, and it slows itself as the number of potential hosts decreases. But that's the growth model. Sitting today at ~350k cases worldwide is almost 2/3 of the way (calendar time) to 1 billion cases from case 0.

We are at 40k confirmed cases in the US today. Assuming you seeded the entire outbreak with 1 case (which we didn't), it would take 16 doublings to hit 32k cases. 17 million cases happens at doubling #25. When you look at it that way, 40k cases is closer (in time) to 17m than it is your first case.
 
The severity? Sigh...yet ANOTHER "TDS" poster!!!

My President told us weeks ago that his Administration has this thing under control. We locked down the borders thanks in large part to his 'unprecedented' travel ban -- that MANY argued against -- that has kept us from experiencing a major outbreak like you saw in China, South Korea, or Italy.
You’re not listening to “Dr Fucti” again. Shame on you. I see that your TDS is growing exponentially
 
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A week ago when we were under 100 deaths I figured we would be at about 400 today based on similar trajectory to Europe. Today we stand at 575 as I type this. But this is apparently evidence that trump should take a more lax approach. Math is hard.
 
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