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Trying not to be heartless, but ...

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RE: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018/01/29/puerto-ricans-adrift-us-hurricane-maria/

Let's look at the facts here ...
  1. This has happened before -- e.g., New Orleans (2005), among others
  2. Get an apartment or -- gasp -- even a trailer, FEMA will help -- get out of the hotel!
  3. It was the 'better to do' that 'got out' of Puerto Rico ... what about the ones who didn't?
This is what gets to me.

First off, PR citizens are US citizens. We should help them. But ...

For some reason, the US media keeps throwing a lot at this 'problem' like it's never happened before. It has. I met many after New Orleans as well as others. People got out, moved on with their lives.

At some point, you have to be realists ... and research what happens after such hurricanes.

Yes, people had to get FEMA trailers, or get apartments, because their homes weren't made available even months later. That's something so many have dealt with.

What's different in this case? I feel for them, but at the same time, they need to learn from what others did during prior hurricanes too.
 
Did you read the article?

They're looking for work. They are relying on FEMA - but the money is running out. A BUNCH are moving out of PR to the USA.

Sooo...you're just complaining to complain?
 
Did you read the article?

They're looking for work. They are relying on FEMA - but the money is running out. A BUNCH are moving out of PR to the USA.

Sooo...you're just complaining to complain?

Snowflakes are going to snowflake.
 
Did you read the article?

They're looking for work. They are relying on FEMA - but the money is running out. A BUNCH are moving out of PR to the USA.

Sooo...you're just complaining to complain?

Something pretty drastic will have to be done with Puerto Rico. It's entire young populace is leaving, for good, and they are basically now running a 3rd world infrastructure and economy. It's quite impossible to turn around a heavily indebted nation with a poor economy when its' entire future is fleeing.

I hate to say it but PR could be going the same way as Haiti or Jamaica.
 
Did you read the article?
Yes. It's basically the same article about some, now some 12 years ago after New Orleans.

They're looking for work. They are relying on FEMA - but the money is running out. A BUNCH are moving out of PR to the USA.
Yes, just like people did after New Orleans. But they need to move to where there are jobs. I know it sucks to move kids out of a school system, but they have to do what they have to do. If you cannot find a job in New York City, move elsewhere. They exist.

But no, some people move to where they've wanted to live. One even admitted that in the article. I've known a lot of people like that in my time. My pity for them runs out by 6 months. Sorry to be heartless, but there are a lot more productive and flexible Americans to support instead.

Sooo...you're just complaining to complain?
No, I'm complaining that they need to change their expectations. The FEMA money is designed so they don't have to worry that first 3-6 months, to let them move around, so they can find a job. If they haven't by the time it runs out, it means they literally had the wrong expectations.

That all said ... many people from PR have moved on. They've found jobs and settled into different areas, just like those did after New Orleans. These are the people who are usually the problem, and they won't recognize what they need to do. The media acts like we're not helping them, and they need further benefits.

No, sorry, nada.
 
Something pretty drastic will have to be done with Puerto Rico. It's entire young populace is leaving, for good, and they are basically now running a 3rd world infrastructure and economy. It's quite impossible to turn around a heavily indebted nation with a poor economy when its' entire future is fleeing.
I hate to say it but PR could be going the same way as Haiti or Jamaica.
The sad thing is that it was the 'more wealthy' who got out of PR. The ones that are still there are really screwed. That's why I don't feel too much for people who got out of PR, but still haven't found jobs some 3-6 months after leaving PR. They didn't set their expectations correctly, and they were already 'better off' than those who couldn't get off the island.

We should always help our fellow Americans, but sometimes some people literally don't want to find a solution, or at least put too many asterisks on where they will live and what job they will take. Again, I've had that conversation too many times, and at some point, you just have to let them think what they want ... and hope they 'wake up' later on.

Change happens. Be ready for it. Be ready to change yourself, to deal with it.
 
In this day and age, what is the value to the US of having Puerto Rico being a US territory? I realize that we may have a responsibility to aid them now, but once our government rebuilds the island, what is the benefit to America and the American citizenry of keeping the same relationship after that?
 
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In this day and age, what is the value to the US of having Puerto Rico being a US territory? I realize that we may have a responsibility to aid them now, but once our government rebuilds the island, what is the benefit to America and the American citizenry of keeping the same relationship after that?

Lets drop PR and Commiefornia*
 
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i had heard the power company was hoarding much needed supplies and they might face persecution for it.
 
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