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dont worry, we can trust these social network companies!*
dont worry, we can trust these social network companies!*
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Yes, anything that is knowingly sent to the Cloud can and will be used by others. Bet on it.
But even things you don't knowingly sent to the Cloud ... are still sent to the Cloud too!
I long turned off my history, and since I have an EMUI-based phone, I can prevent applications from various network and power access. It raises hell with Google Play and other subsystem. It's the biggest complaint about EMUI, but I love it, and I take it to an extreme.
E.g., "your body sensors are disabled, they must be enabled for this app to work" type BS. But it surely cuts down on my power and network consumption. It's well worth it, and I go 2 days without charging.
Now if Gboard would only stop updating itself and changing my settings. I really need to find a better keyboard for Android. Allegedly the new Kirin 970 and its AI unit can do everything without any Google connection -- yes, including very accurate voice to text.
We'll see.
But even things you don't knowingly sent to the Cloud ... are still sent to the Cloud too!
I long turned off my history, and since I have an EMUI-based phone, I can prevent applications from various network and power access. It raises hell with Google Play and other subsystem. It's the biggest complaint about EMUI, but I love it, and I take it to an extreme.
E.g., "your body sensors are disabled, they must be enabled for this app to work" type BS. But it surely cuts down on my power and network consumption. It's well worth it, and I go 2 days without charging.
Now if Gboard would only stop updating itself and changing my settings. I really need to find a better keyboard for Android. Allegedly the new Kirin 970 and its AI unit can do everything without any Google connection -- yes, including very accurate voice to text.
We'll see.
Companies/Guberments listen to anything they want. I'm not all tin hatty and stuff but if someone wants to listen to you, they'll listen to you.
maybe there should be laws or even constitutional amendments that tell the government to **** off and let you have your privacy
Oh honey. HONEY...
Homies in power do what they please. Just accept it and move on with your life. Not to be mean but I'm pretty certain your life isn't special enough for the government/corporations to care what you're doing. Other than to sell you things.
I've never understood why people give two sh!ts about these things if you are just some regular Joe.
Because I dont want the government spying on me or you for that matter. I have nothing to hide, but that is still none of their business. I wished more people cared about the 4th amendment
For clarity - I'd bet a pretty penny that the big corporations are "spying" on you before the government. You mean nothing to the government (unless you doing some shady stuff) but you mean $$$ to the Googles and Amazons of the world. They know exactly where you are, where you go, where you spend your money, what you like, etc.
Agreed. Google, Facebook, Twitter, all follow and know more about your daily habits than anybody else. And it’s all because we sign up for these things without really delving into the fine print of what these corporations are really doing with our data.
The 4th amendment protects you from the government. Not companies whose services you are using.
Honestly, even if you set your privacy to max everything, unless you TRULY "live off the grid", these companies know pretty much everything about you. Just part of the rise of tech.
Furthermore ...
Datamining and warehousing information on consumers is not only allowed, but foreign governments take advantage of it too. They can even order the kits with everything.
Russia sure did. And what Russia did was not illegal, and you won't see it in the IJC. Subversion and influence is done by every nation ... as long as they didn't change actual votes.
And just like a Bernie Sanders' staffer discovered, the DNC has some of the best Demographics on who to target, and virtually no access controls or other, basic security.
true, but in that instance i was talking about the gov not twitter. they both spy on us. i just wish the gov didnt as much as they do
The thing is they don't, that's my point. You're no one to them, unless you're not telling us something....
they certainly do, you just havent been paying attention. there are reports that come out all the time about the various agencies going overboard with this type of thing.
I'm not doubting they collect stuff but no one is listening. Sorry, but we're all no ones. Out of EVERYTHING in life that can cause me stress, this most definitely isn't one of them.
"You just haven't been paying attention." - I'm going to assume you're a tin foil hat dude.
It's really this simple ...
- If private entities don't collect the information in the first place ...
- The government cannot even get the info after-the-face
- Assuming they follow the 4th Amendment
- Not even looking at FISA ... and "outside of FISA"
Let's go beyond the fact that several of us here are 'tech heads,' whether just 'enthusiast' or 'professional' ...
Did I mention I was ...
the (sole) post-sales (not a pre-sales engineer, of which they were a dime-a-dozen) implementation engineer/architect on software defined storage (SDS) at Red Hat for 2 years (2012-2014)?
Both post-Gluster acquisition (2012), as well as Dell-directed/led (early 2014) Inktank (CEPH) acquisition by 2014 April.
Before that, the one thing I can talk about, I was one (of the two) leading Global File System (GFS) experts (originally came out of SGI, then spun off as Sistina -- who is responsible for most of the Block/DeviceMapper code in Linux kernel 2.4+ -- which was bought by Red Hat), having spent 27 months at the Commerce Department (2009-2011), namely the Census ... the largest, installed base of GFS (petabytes upon petabytes).
E.g., Google (among everyone else) actually gets its map data from the Census, "GEO" actually makes money for the taxpayer. It's why they moved me over into the SDS "enablement" role in 2012 (yes, there's a purposeful gap there -- and anyone who has access to my financial history can see where I lived too).
I then served in a similar role at HP 2014-2015 (their primary Gluster-NFS and CEPH-Swift expert, including pre-sales engineering backfill), until HP basically ended their flirtation with an open source cloud (i.e., fired my beloved VP, so I got out -- also tired 90+ hour/weeks).
That's why I got out, got tired of the 60-90+ hour/weeks at times ... heavily utilized for too many "clients." I now work 40 hours/week at a regional bank who is extremely caring and understanding.
Both post-Gluster acquisition (2012), as well as Dell-directed/led (early 2014) Inktank (CEPH) acquisition by 2014 April.
Before that, the one thing I can talk about, I was one (of the two) leading Global File System (GFS) experts (originally came out of SGI, then spun off as Sistina -- who is responsible for most of the Block/DeviceMapper code in Linux kernel 2.4+ -- which was bought by Red Hat), having spent 27 months at the Commerce Department (2009-2011), namely the Census ... the largest, installed base of GFS (petabytes upon petabytes).
E.g., Google (among everyone else) actually gets its map data from the Census, "GEO" actually makes money for the taxpayer. It's why they moved me over into the SDS "enablement" role in 2012 (yes, there's a purposeful gap there -- and anyone who has access to my financial history can see where I lived too).
I then served in a similar role at HP 2014-2015 (their primary Gluster-NFS and CEPH-Swift expert, including pre-sales engineering backfill), until HP basically ended their flirtation with an open source cloud (i.e., fired my beloved VP, so I got out -- also tired 90+ hour/weeks).
That's why I got out, got tired of the 60-90+ hour/weeks at times ... heavily utilized for too many "clients." I now work 40 hours/week at a regional bank who is extremely caring and understanding.
They can collect it. They can store it, with consumer-priced drives en masse on general purpose, whitebox computers, in addition to low-cost Dell and HP models (built at bare-bones prices by ECS, FIC and most of the Chinese and Taiwanese sisters).
They can search it. They can use it. There have already been several cases where some 3 letter US federal agencies have shared that data with law enforcement for criminal cases (in utter violation of the law), and (finally) some of those are coming back to the courts (although not before the convictions).
The goal every liberty-minded American should have is to mitigate how much they can collect.
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no tin foil hat needed. they literally spy on us daily. its been proven so many times its not funny but scary.
you really arent paying attention but i understand your point. you arent doing anything wrong so whats the point. my point is that governments always abuse power. they have learned that doing small grabs of power are more effective than large ones. they will erode our rights until we have none. that is what scares me.
It's not that the government abuses power intentionally. And there are a lot of good, liberty-minded Americans in many roles -- they are our first line of defense, keeping the system proper and good.
SIDE NOTE: Highly recommend Paramount's (fka Spike's) new series "Waco."
It explains different divisions of the FBI, including the very militaristic "HRT" (Hostage Rescue Team), right in Episode 1. Damn they didn't do an awesome job on Ruby Ridge, and the political fallout that led the ATF to their (very poor) approach to Waco. It also highlights some of the extensive good people of and in the FBI (people who are down on the series miss that fact). It's based on an agent's own view.
But if it's there, they can use it. And as we're now seeing in many public reports, they use it where they should not.
There is a reason I still very much dislike Obama more than W. W. started the mess, no argument. But Obama expanded it ... over an order of magnitude. How and why? To "combat" alleged "nationalists militias."
I don't even own a gun and a half-dozen things I do every day, week and month -- just 'common sense preparedness' -- qualify me for the terrorist watch list. Even pro-domestic spying Senator Cornyn of Texas has been constantly complaining about how the lists have become useless, and overburden the FBI.
As much as I have my complaints about Edward Snowden (and I still very much argue he should never have stayed in Russia), I'm glad someone like him finally 'blew the whistle.'
It's amazing how people -- both left and right -- ignore some of this, but then scream, "The Russians are Coming!" Oliver Stone has pegged this best early on during the 2016 election.
Progressives are just as bad, and can be even worse, than Conservatives when it comes to 'I fear the bad guys' and 'protect me government.' "I cannot think for myself. Those Russian ads and fake news shouldn't be allowed!"
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If the government wants to see what you’re doing, they can and will do it. There’s nothing anyone can do about it. I accept it.
I like to give both local, state and the federal levels far, far less opportunity to track me. Automated systems go against my very firm beliefs of due process as a Libertarian.
Are you a libertarian?
Anyway, like I said earlier, unless you live completely off the grid, guess what? They can track you.
Yes, they can track you ... but I like to deny them 80-90% of it.
Again, this is why I don't like this crap ...
- http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fitness-map-soldiers-20180129-story.html
Businesses are wholly irresponsible with data, and it's getting old.
- http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fitness-map-soldiers-20180129-story.html
Businesses are wholly irresponsible with data, and it's getting old.
I just log in under my wife's account...soooooo many shoe ads.
I shut down my cell phone ... a lot! I used to have to do it for 'work' anyway, so now that I'm back to a private sector client/employer, it's not a big deal. I can afford for people not to find me.
I also run EMUI -- yes, China's Huawei** skin -- for a reason. You can configure it to block a crapload that Android tries to send back to Google. Yes, I got a lot of 'notifications' from apps bitch'n about things not being enabled because of EMUI. People hate it for that reason, but I love it for that very, same reason
I've sent a lot of ADB output to my friends in Google, complaining about things. Gboard is #1 on my ran list right now. That thing is trying to suck up a lot of battery and network, and re-enables things I block (including having to hack it from ADB to get some things turned off), with every update.
**And yes, I'm fully aware of the politicking with Huawei right now.
I cannot believe Congress is making a huge deal about Huawei and ZTE, yet ignoring all of the distributors -- especially off-shore -- that load up Apple, Samsung and other phones with Chinese spyware for major corporations and even some government agencies. Not a single piece of spyware has been found on US Retail Huawei or ZTE products. In fact, on-shore, Florida-based Blu Products, with 1/3rd of their employees being US-based (for reference, only 1/10th of Apple's phone division are US-based), was shown to be one of the worst for spyware, as they heavily outsource off-shore.
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