I’m hoping this is coach speak and he’s just not wanting to name JRP the starter so early on.“In my experience with quarterbacks, naming [a starter], setting a date and all of that, it’s really tough,” Malzahn said. “Usually there’s a time in fall camp that something happens where everyone on the team knows who the starting quarterback is and a lot of the times the coach doesn’t even have to say anything.
“So we’re hoping that happens,” Malzahn added.
If true then we didn’t get the right transfer.Sounds like neither QB is showing anything special.
Last time Plumlee was starting a game as QB was November of 2019. That's not unlike Milton having a gap between 2018 to 2021. Of course Milton had the injury, but Milton was a better QB and always had a QB mindset.If true then we didn’t get the right transfer.
I believe just the opposite. It's very possible Mikey makes a big jump in his second year. I think we have 2 Qbs that can start and win games.Sounds like neither QB is showing anything special.
Inconceivable. Everyone knows that Mikey Keene will never advance from the true freshman who was thrown into the fire and only asked to do a few things. The only possible interpretation of CGM’s comments is the one that feeds the ever burning flame of despair.I believe just the opposite. It's very possible Mikey makes a big jump in his second year. I think we have 2 Qbs that can start and win games.
Agree with what you wrote, and the 2019 version of Plumlee wasn’t anything to get excited about other than being an incredible runner.Last time Plumlee was starting a game as QB was November of 2019. That's not unlike Milton having a gap between 2018 to 2021. Of course Milton had the injury, but Milton was a better QB and always had a QB mindset.
Plumlee in 2020 switch to mostly just running the ball, then in 2021 mostly as a a receiver, and now in 2022 playing catch up to being a QB again.
LOL, the usf forum is down in the basement with guys muttering about their staplersInconceivable. Everyone knows that Mikey Keene will never advance from the true freshman who was thrown into the fire and only asked to do a few things. The only possible interpretation of CGM’s comments is the one that feeds the ever burning flame of despair.
I don’t mind TC getting some playing time as part of his development. It would be disappointing if the starting QB is a true freshman for the second year in a row. But then again maybe this season turns out to prepare players for our first season in the Big 12. Can't wait for this to get started. What is the first day of fall camp?It's interesting to see journalist Qb rankings. UCF is way down on the list. It's the unknowns and no flashy Qb. It's a different for us UCF fans, we've had some great Qb play in the past. I think we as fans just to need to adjust to that. The freshman T.C. prob getting looks also. I like how Gus defines the Qb race as a team decision. A natural leader will emerge. I also think we really are going to see a conservative run first offense with big plays intermixed. I think Gus is cooking up a winning offense for us. Proof is in the pudding of course and we just gotta wait and see this play out.
Exactly my thoughts. JRP fits the system best, but also dont want mikey in the portal before the season as he is a serviceable backupI’m hoping this is coach speak and he’s just not wanting to name JRP the starter so early on.
They both have different strengths.Exactly my thoughts. JRP fits the system best, but also dont want mikey in the portal before the season as he is a serviceable backup
I agree with most of this except better thrower. Keene would have a madden rating of 34 for throwing power. Is he accurate? Sure. But it still takes him 3 minutes to windup and throw a slow pitch softball at his receiver.They both have different strengths.
Mikey is more strategic, better thrower,knows system better.
JRP is the better athlete, can run faster, and make freak plays.
They can both win, and both bring something different to the table.
I agree. JRP is faster in all regards, he is a freak athlete, JRP is a gym rat kind of guy.I agree with most of this except better thrower. Keene would have a madden rating of 34 for throwing power. Is he accurate? Sure. But it still takes him 3 minutes to windup and throw a slow pitch softball at his receiver.
I dont think JRP has truly had a chance to showcase his throwing ability. He played one season and then matt corral stepped in. With that said, MK cannot throw. I may draw some hate for that statement but the dude has a noodle arm and throws every pass out of bounds at the first sign of pressure. Defenses can stack a box to stuff the run knowing that Mk cannot hurt them passing or running.I agree. JRP is faster in all regards, he is a freak athlete, JRP is a gym rat kind of guy.
But my understanding is that Keene is a little better at QB skills. Maybe I'm wrong though.
They will both excel at different situations. If we want QB runs, obviously I want JRP in there. If we want someone to sit in the pocket and throw the accurate pass, I want Keene. Idk which one is better in terms of maximizing the chance of winning.
I think that needs to be determined based on the opponent and situation at hand.
Way too harsh on Keene....threw 17 TDs last year vs 4 in the same number of games for Plumlee......I'm not a Keene guy, but give him at least the credit he deserves for keeping the wheels on the bus.I dont think JRP has truly had a chance to showcase his throwing ability. He played one season and then matt corral stepped in. With that said, MK cannot throw. I may draw some hate for that statement but the dude has a noodle arm and throws every pass out of bounds at the first sign of pressure. Defenses can stack a box to stuff the run knowing that Mk cannot hurt them passing or running.
JRP on the other hand commands a spy at LB and if teams stack box he will have 1-1 cvg. JMHO
You've got valid points.I dont think JRP has truly had a chance to showcase his throwing ability. He played one season and then matt corral stepped in. With that said, MK cannot throw. I may draw some hate for that statement but the dude has a noodle arm and throws every pass out of bounds at the first sign of pressure. Defenses can stack a box to stuff the run knowing that Mk cannot hurt them passing or running.
JRP on the other hand commands a spy at LB and if teams stack box he will have 1-1 cvg. JMHO
Sit in the pocket or roll right and throw OOB? 😂I agree. JRP is faster in all regards, he is a freak athlete, JRP is a gym rat kind of guy.
But my understanding is that Keene is a little better at QB skills. Maybe I'm wrong though.
They will both excel at different situations. If we want QB runs, obviously I want JRP in there. If we want someone to sit in the pocket and throw the accurate pass, I want Keene. Idk which one is better in terms of maximizing the chance of winning.
I think that needs to be determined based on the opponent and situation at hand.
Yes…yes you certainly will.I dont think JRP has truly had a chance to showcase his throwing ability. He played one season and then matt corral stepped in. With that said, MK cannot throw. I may draw some hate for that statement but the dude has a noodle arm and throws every pass out of bounds at the first sign of pressure. Defenses can stack a box to stuff the run knowing that Mk cannot hurt them passing or running.
JRP on the other hand commands a spy at LB and if teams stack box he will have 1-1 cvg. JMHO
Youre not wrong. His ceiling is a game manager qb which is a good thing to have for a backup. With KZ you could sense his breakout in 2017.Yes…yes you certainly will.
People love to compare him to KZ’s freshman year even though you could see KZ’s potential (and not his), he was a true freshman, Gus didn’t let him do this or that, etc etc etc, excuse after excuse. I sat in the stadium man, everyone around me was frustrated with how inept he was and I stayed quiet. How in the world could we be left with a true freshman as a backup? No reason to go to Arizona to give this guy a scholarship, there’s plenty of QB’s in FL better than him. I blame Heupel, not the William and Mary level qb.
Sure to get a lot of hate as always, but let’s keep it real fellas.
I don’t think it was Heupel directly but he signed off on it. Someone had to have a side piece in Arizona and didn’t want to leave her side much. I think we got 3 guys from Arizona. None of them are great yet.Yes…yes you certainly will.
People love to compare him to KZ’s freshman year even though you could see KZ’s potential (and not his), he was a true freshman, Gus didn’t let him do this or that, etc etc etc, excuse after excuse. I sat in the stadium man, everyone around me was frustrated with how inept he was and I stayed quiet. How in the world could we be left with a true freshman as a backup? No reason to go to Arizona to give this guy a scholarship, there’s plenty of QB’s in FL better than him. I blame Heupel, not the William and Mary level qb.
Sure to get a lot of hate as always, but let’s keep it real fellas.
Good bulletin board material for our QB room. Playing with a chip is a good start. Personally, I think JRP will be the top dual threat QB in the conference. If his throwing is as accurate as in the Spring, he'll be one of the top 3 QB's. And as Mikey builds up his fearlessness, he won't be far behind.2022 American Athletic Conference Quarterback Rankings
Ranking the American Athletic Conference quarterbacks for the 2022 college football season.athlonsports.com
Well they are making Harry Potter spinoffs.....Need to bring back Troy Green. He should be physically matured by now, and I think it is likely he has some eligibility left.
Hazle or whoever that qb coach was.I don’t think it was Heupel directly but he signed off on it. Someone had to have a side piece in Arizona and didn’t want to leave her side much. I think we got 3 guys from Arizona. None of them are great yet.
Basically, (and, just my opinion), with UCF clown-car-of-talent this year, whoever the Qb is, will only need to get it into the playmakers hands as painstakingly easy as they can. Fast paced, option offense. I think the most efficient, mistake free Qb, will win the starting job. If I was Gus I would just come out and say everyone is Qb1 and let the other team figure out who is playing. Having a mega-star Qb would be nice, but the word 'serviceable' has been used a lot with Mickey Keene. Having a smart qb, read the defense quickly, put ball in the hands of the Clown-Car-of-Talent (gawd I love this term). It's probably why J-flash left the team. Throwing the long bombs frequently like in Heupel's offense won't happen very often and downfield blocking is essential in Gus's O.
Older article but good explanation of what Gus Offense wants to be:
It was a much different system and the teams were in much different situations with very different expectations. None of us know the plays that were called for Mikey nor what he was instructed to do so to say that his ceiling is set at this moment is an opinion based on a lot of ignorance.Yes…yes you certainly will.
People love to compare him to KZ’s freshman year even though you could see KZ’s potential (and not his), he was a true freshman, Gus didn’t let him do this or that, etc etc etc, excuse after excuse. I sat in the stadium man, everyone around me was frustrated with how inept he was and I stayed quiet. How in the world could we be left with a true freshman as a backup? No reason to go to Arizona to give this guy a scholarship, there’s plenty of QB’s in FL better than him. I blame Heupel, not the William and Mary level qb.
Sure to get a lot of hate as always, but let’s keep it real fellas.