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Why would people complain about transfer students? These are kids who proved their ability at another college before they got into UCF. I don't understand why that would be a problem
I think the controversial issue is the direct connect program through which students at like 6 community colleges (including Valencia with like 50k students), earn an AA and are guaranteed admission to UCF. This results in UCF having the most transfer students in the country. I do think that having many students that can just "scrape by" community college and are automatically accepted to UCF leads to a different overall student body than is reflected in the freshman admit statistics.
.... Check , Check and Check ..... and Check !!!! ....all the other shit - GPA, endowment ,,,blah blah blah !! - is window dressing .....I could not get in today at UCF. I started in 1986. My son was wait listed and ultimately told no. He is direct connecting. We are out of state but he has the Florida prepaid as he was born there then I moved away when he was 5.
Most careers and first time jobs don't ask you your GPA or genuinely care where you went to school. Guess what they call the guy who graduated last in his class at med school...
Doctor.
Do you ever ask your MD what his or her GPA was in medical school? Do you go, hey DOC your undergraduate degree endowment is only $248 million , man you must suck as a doctor. Lol
Only in Academia circles does this stuff matter when Presidents, Dean's of Admission or the Fund Raisers get all wonky on this stuff. If it makes you feel better that UCF scores higher than cow U , good for you.
The only I care about the comparison is the score after 60 minutes. That's because of my inferior intellect that UCF accepted in the 80s. Now if was one then high fa-lute-ant who kids who mad a 1600 on the SAT, I guess I would care. But, I -nd stroke a check. Lol.
Besides, my wife says size doesn't matter , so there is that.
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All Florida State schools have it. If you get AA you are guaranteed to get into UF, FSU or UCF.
Nope, not true. FSU and UF are application only for transfers. They do give priority to local community college students, but as an example, Sante Fe CC (in Gainesville) has an HONORS program where still only 88% of the grads get into UF via transfer. Kids not in the honors program have a much lower chance of getting in via transfer.
I did one year at PBCC and it was harder than UCF.
What degree did you obtain at UCF? And what classes were you taking at PBCC? I find that extremely hard to believe.
Elementary Education. Yes was taking the prerequisite classes. The most glaring example was the computer class. I got a C at PBCC and when I got to UCF I retook it and got an A. My girlfriends Sorority had folders filled with tests and the answers. Most of the time the professors used the same tests every semester. I also took golf and coaching football at UCF. Pretty much show up and you get an A.
Every University is going to have degree's you can sleepwalk through. I don't think Elementary Education is a good barometer of how hard UCF can be. Looks like you also took the path of least resistance for your electives. Try taking Calculus with Analytical Geometry with 500+ other students where you only have 30 seconds to do complex problems and have to use a clicker to answer. I took Chemistry at Valencia and UCF. It was night and day more difficult. At the CC level, professors curve grades just to curve. At UCF, they curve when tons of people have failed due to the difficulty.
I like sports, that’s why I took sports related electives. I’m not a math or science fan. I like them but not to the degree you seem to be. The first 2 years at any school seem to be the same type of classes. In my experience, UCF wasn’t that difficult. Just take notes, study and pass the test.
Yeah I agree. Not really what the post is about though. OP compares freshman admit statistics and implies UCF is on similar footing with UF academically. The fact is less than half of UCF student body starts in that freshman class that is included in those stats. I'm just pointing out if you included the transfers that are more than 1/2 of the student body the stats are a lot different. I am a UCF grad too and already stated I support direct connect.
Yep. 100%. Direct connect is great but you can't point out the issue of huge enrollment without discussing direct connect. Our freshman class is actually similar in size to UF, the reason the university is massive is because of the massive number of transfers (more than 1/2 of student body), many from local CC's. It puts a lot of stress on the academic system. Personally I think direct connect should cut off at 3.0 CC GPA and if you are below 3.0 you should have to apply for a slot like all the other transfers from out of state, etc. I think this would reduce the "washout" effect. Direct connect is an awesome idea to give people a second chance but honestly many CCs are watered down with very low standards and just graduating with a 2.0 at Lake Sumpter Community College may not be a high enough bar to guarantee admiss to UCF imo. Especially if you want to slow enrollment growth.
1. You took the easiest major at UCF
Good advice for you: refuse to join any club that would have you as a member.
You can’t compare classes unless they offer the same ones and you took them at both. I had a roommate who went to both with me. But he obviously didn’t take engineering classes at PBCC. It would take a fool to think taking classes at UCF that CC doesn’t offer, would be harder or more advanced. I’m talking English, basic math, beginning science, Social Studies, Psychology etc classes. PBCC was like 13th grade. They took roll call and penalized you for not showing up. UCF mostly didn’t. Classes with more than 50 people were the easiest. Yes they did the curve for them as well.
K. Most people think UCF gen ed program is harder than most community colleges and that kids that start at UCF are more prepared for upper level classes than the CC transfers. UCF staff has a term for the underpreparedness of the CC transfers and the challenges they face, they call it "transfer shock."
I am not sure on the washout numbers for CC transfers specifically. I know our 6 year graduation rate is 70% or so because that is a metric that is part of the preeminence plan, but I don't know if they keep or publish the data separately for the transfers.
I’m going to assume UCF provides the state of Florida with a very large percentage of Elementary School teachers. You don’t seem to respect teachers very much. They all majored in nap time. You should write UCF and demand the major to be dropped to not further water down your degree.
Guy, you totally do not need to major in elementary education to be a teacher in an elementary school. They will take literally any degree in the world along with a "teaching certificate" that you can probably get at your prestigious local community college. I would rather my kid's teachers major in what interests them, math, science, english, etc. so that they might learn something. Also, unrelated note, I'm sure you know this, but being a male with an elementary ed degree working in an elementary school has you on some watchlists and most people probably think you are creepy on sight.
They took EL ED because it was so easy. Then say, none of them said it was easy. Are you self aware?
.....FYI all of those ladies admitted it was an easy major and some even stated they took that major because "it's so easy and I just want to be a mom," LMAO. None of them thought UCF as a school was easy...
