UCF No Longer a Big XII Candidate

[BigXIIOrBust]

According to this Twitter user (who has correctly announced previous expansions months prior to it being publicized) his source inside the Big 10 (who believes they know the direction the Big 12 is looking) says that the Big 12 no longer considering UCF as a potential expansion candidate.



Thoughts?

 

[The Nation of UCF]

Yeah , here's a thought ... wipe your ass with that !!!!

 

[Jedi.Knight]

I'm not worried; Tuxedo Yoda will set things right soon enough.

 

[BigXIIOrBust]

I'm not worried; Tuxedo Yoda will set things right soon enough.

Usually I'm not concerned with faceless twitter users but this guy has been right time and time again. He correctly announced Maryland to the Big 10 weeks before it became public. Also, he announced Big 10 expansion of lesser sports (rowing, hockey) months before that became public. He has credibility in my opinion.

 

[Happy Hands]

We'll be a women's soccer only member of the Big12.

 

[Stormthecourt?]

Usually I'm not concerned with faceless twitter users but this guy has been right time and time again. He correctly announced Maryland to the Big 10 weeks before it became public. Also, he announced Big 10 expansion of lesser sports (rowing, hockey) months before that became public. He has credibility in my opinion.

If we were trying to join the Big 10 maybe we should listen to him. Sadly our academics are not old enough to qualify for the big 10

 

[MechaKnight]

I'm not sure we were ever a serious candidate, but conferences don't make these kinds of decisions based on the outcome of a few football games.

However, if the bad season kills attendance and ratings and donations - those things matter. Honestly if the UCF fanbase showed that we still supported the program during bad times then it would score a lot of points in the eyes of the P5.

 

[ucfversusbcs]

We'll be a women's soccer only member of the Big12.

Do we get any Big 12 money revenue if that happens? One million a year is 66 percent of what the entire American gets per team in a year.

 

[Stevieknight]

All these Twitter rumor guys are full of shit.

 

[ucfversusbcs]

I'm not sure we were ever a serious candidate

This. There's a couple of posters here - mainly GOL huggers - that continue to insist that we were never meant to be invited to a P5 conference in the first place. They said the programs lot in life is as a G5 program and we shouldn't be asking for more. GOL is supposed to be a program builder and we shouldn't be worried about who we are playing but "that we are playing". They might as well be saying if we get rid of GOL, the program will likely die because he's the only one thats keeping it alive.

Yet its the same ones that support the administration spending money they apparently dont have to upgrade facilities - so we can entertain negotiations with conferences we shouldnt be talking to in the first place! So now we spend the money and grovel to the leaders of the conferences we shouldnt be talking to in the first place - because of our lot in the college football world - because we need their revenue to pay for our expenses. Then when the haters bring up that as a G5 we need to win games, they put on their UCF glasses and talk about our beautiful campus and upgrades. When we push back and say they'll only care if we win games, then they'll bring up TV sets and what we bring to the table. When we push back and say no one cared that the University of Miami is in a big city, they only care that they won five national titles, then they revert back to the well golly UCF should be lucky to have GOL and our lot in life will forever be a G5 school.

When i think about perennial G5 programs. I think of Bowling Green because even after a successful year , they still reduced seating in their stadium last decade. Thats perennial G5 there. When i think of perennial its Toledo paying its coach less than a half million a year and getting their moneys worth...and its knowing he'll probably leave for a bigger program. Our coach is reportedly the 57th highest paid coach in college football...2nd amongst the G5. If our lot in life is a G5 school forever then quit spending money that proves otherwise.

 

[cocoabeachjason]

So you know a guy who knows another guy, and that guy is from the Big 10. That guy from the Big 10 "believes" he knows what direction another conference (the Big 12) is going to go regarding expansion.

Hmmmm. That is hearsay within speculative hearsay within more hearsay.

I'm not ready to take this prognostocation too serious.

 

[SublimeKnight]

I guess we lost the sprint.

 

[goodknightfl]

These guys are all clowns. There are probably 5 to 8 schools out there that would make sense. The B12 has not even decided to expand, not to say anything for who they would take.
Every one of those schools have positives and negatives. Memphis stunk for 5 or 6 years, now because of 1.5 years of success they are the school of choice? We have been really good for a few years, now we have one bad year and we are out? The Big 12 will not barring a meltdown miss the playoff this year. and are highly unlikely to expand.

 

[C-MontCityKnight2]

These guys are all clowns. There are probably 5 to 8 schools out there that would make sense. The B12 has not even decided to expand, not to say anything for who they would take.
Every one of those schools have positives and negatives. Memphis stunk for 5 or 6 years, now because of 1.5 years of success they are the school of choice? We have been really good for a few years, now we have one bad year and we are out? The Big 12 will not barring a meltdown miss the playoff this year. and are highly unlikely to expand.

Yes because Memphis is improving and we are falling off a cliff. Memphis was always a strong candidate due to basketball. They just needed to get their football act together which they finally have. We are doomed thanks to the 70 year old douchebag who won't leave us alone.

 

[80'sKnight]

1 bad year doesn't mean we left Florida (for the Florida footprint), 1 bad year doesn't mean we lost 2nd largest school in the the nation status, 1 bad year doesn't mean we lost the advantage in facilities that we have over Houston and Cincy who are playing catch-up. Which would you rather, 1 bad year UCF with those advantages, a non-Florida school with 0 of our advantages or decades bad years with maybe 1 good year usf with poor facilities, etc.? Such whining overreaction.

PS- there were more than 1 Twit who never included UCF in possible expansion candidates before this season began, and another who guaranteed Miami and possibly Clemson in the Big 12 by last November.

 

[jetsaholic]

I don't think we have ever really been in the conversation for the B12. Just a rumor that sounded good so we all went with it.

 

[SublimeKnight]

I don't think we have ever really been in the conversation for the B12. Just a rumor that sounded good so we all went with it.

When you want to believe something is true, you can make any fact fit.

 

[Poolside Knight]

This random twitter guy picked the 3 best teams from the AAC this season as the Top 3 candidates. Same thing was done with UCF last season

 

[tbird85]

All these Twitter rumor guys are full of shit.

Not necessarily.

 

[YouSeeF]

Who didn't see this coming?

When you are on the 'upswing' and being called a 'sleeping giant' you CANNOT have 'rebuilding years' and 'down years' where you go 1-11 or 0-12. YOU JUST CAN'T.

You can convince your 'real UCF-fan-self' all you want that mediocrity is OK- and that's just fine since this is America. But remember what your position was when we look back in the years to come as these decisions make in the next 12 months for UCF will be pivotal in deciding if the program becomes great or not.

 

[Central Floridave]

Fertitta: UH getting into Big 12 'not a dead issue'

http://www.chron.com/local/educatio...tting-into-Big-12-not-a-dead-deal-6569169.php

 

[Square Knight]

If you had included this persons other tweets it would have explained everything and made the prior responses completely irrelevant. His other tweets said that ESPN is pushing the B12 hard to not include UCF.

Supposedly ESPN wants to keep the B12 and Fox Network out of Florida. True or not, don't know. But this same person has been tweeting about ESPN's opposition to UCF since well before we tanked the season.

 

[UT4Texas]

According to this Twitter user (who has correctly announced previous expansions months prior to it being publicized) his source inside the Big 10 (who believes they know the direction the Big 12 is looking) says that the Big 12 no longer considering UCF as a potential expansion candidate.

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Thoughts?

Lol.

Here is a quote from a poster on the BYU board that pretty much describes Greg Flugaur:
"He's a guy that apparently knows someone with B1G inside info, but he doesn't
claim to have direct info from the Big12. He's giving what the Big10 thinks the Big12 will do. So, he's up front about what he doesn't know. In that sense, he's legit. He's not legit if you are trying to consider him a Big12 insider."

 

[ucfversusbcs]

A couple of tweets down shows Florida/Miami closing in on deal to play in Orlando. UCF to the Big 12 means competition for ESPN by Fox in Orlando. Well we were not overwhelmingly impressive enough to override the details these conferences want apparently...and now we totally suck.

 

[MasterKnight]

According to this Twitter user (who has correctly announced previous expansions months prior to it being publicized) his source inside the Big 10 (who believes they know the direction the Big 12 is looking) says that the Big 12 no longer considering UCF as a potential expansion candidate.

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Thoughts?

Shhh this will drive the tv market delusionists crazy. It's going to be Cincy and Memphis

 

[MasterKnight]

These guys are all clowns. There are probably 5 to 8 schools out there that would make sense. The B12 has not even decided to expand, not to say anything for who they would take.
Every one of those schools have positives and negatives. Memphis stunk for 5 or 6 years, now because of 1.5 years of success they are the school of choice? We have been really good for a few years, now we have one bad year and we are out? The Big 12 will not barring a meltdown miss the playoff this year. and are highly unlikely to expand.

LMAO really good? Other than 2013 when were we really good? Really good is TCU, Boise And Utah in the pie late Mountain West years.

 

[Tiger_Pride76]

UCF and USF to SEC

 

[goodknightfl]

Yes because Memphis is improving and we are falling off a cliff. Memphis was always a strong candidate due to basketball. They just needed to get their football act together which they finally have. We are doomed thanks to the 70 year old douchebag who won't leave us alone.

Other than the old BE, which of these expansions were based on BB. Memphis makes a lot of sense if you are bridge building to WV., with a decent market.
If you want to expand the foot print, markets and recruiting, UCF and UCF make sense. That was true before and after this year. The decision won't be made based on performance one year.
but rather on what they are looking for in expansion.

 

[goodknightfl]

LMAO really good? Other than 2013 when were we really good? Really good is TCU, Boise And Utah in the pie late Mountain West years.

There were a total of 6 bcs schools who won 30 games in the last 3 years, and we were one of them. The point is they are making a business decision, not a emotional one. If they were the Big would have never taken Mary or Rutgers. The Big, SEC, and ACC have been expanding the footprint and buying markets. TCU was a market pick, WV was the best name available at the moment. What will the B12 want now? No one really knows.

There were and are 5 to 8 schools out there that could make sense depending on what a P5 conf is looking for, that was true last year and still this year. They will choose based on what they are looking for, not what the flavor of the week is.

 

[NU 71 72 74]

The guy referenced is PurpleBookCat -- fyi he is not always correct. In fact, some folks believe he is actually used on occasion to put out disinformation by the B1G. His claim to fame was correctly predicting the B1G's first move into the world of conference expansion -- after which the cards began to fall all over big time conference expansion. Just me, but I don't think the Big 12 gives two hoots about UCF's rough season in 2015. UCF is a fine expansion candidate for the Big 12 -- eyeballs $$$'s.

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and, Go Cats !!

 

[firm_bizzle]

No directional school is a candidate for the B12.

 

[Jaredf29]

UCF and USF to SEC

You may want to see a counselor

 

[Knight_Fyre]

Does anyone else here find it odd that ESPN who is against us (FL Market) and is pro UH (saturated Texas market) translates to ESPN strategically setting up the conference to fail? Stay with me for a moment... FOX owns 51% of the Big 12, wouldn't it be in ESPN's best interest to keep FOX from owning ANY Florida market and keeping most of their product in one state so that when the dominoes fall (e.g. OU/TX leaving) and the Big 12 crashes and burns ala Big East - ESPN can swallow up the premier teams on the cheap and leave FOX with practically nothing? Why else would ESPN be against adding UCF as the 4th premier team in the state when California and Texas both have 4 teams (Texas, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor / California, UCLA, USC, Stanford)?

 

[Poolside Knight]

if fan support matters at all idk how Houston would be in the mix. UCF and USF have better support than them, they are ranked and undefeated & their last home game looked 60% empty

 

[ucfversusbcs]

Does anyone else here find it odd that ESPN who is against us (FL Market) and is pro UH (saturated Texas market) translates to ESPN strategically setting up the conference to fail? Stay with me for a moment... FOX owns 51% of the Big 12, wouldn't it be in ESPN's best interest to keep FOX from owning ANY Florida market and keeping most of their product in one state so that when the dominoes fall (e.g. OU/TX leaving) and the Big 12 crashes and burns ala Big East - ESPN can swallow up the premier teams on the cheap and leave FOX with practically nothing? Why else would ESPN be against adding UCF as the 4th premier team in the state when California and Texas both have 4 teams (Texas, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor / California, UCLA, USC, Stanford)?

Whoever is advising UCF on their future should be fired on the spot.* No it must be bad being UCF, desperately chasing for the immediate revenue and prestige. Lets take the one year in the BCS, but in return the network that talks you up on TV doesnt want you to join a conference that will make you money because its a conflict of interest. ESPN is just like that person who tweeted congrats to UCF for winning the American, but now its time for real college football.
Let me also add the argument for Cinci and Memphis could be made if the cable industry finally gets what they want and thats mergers and bigger companies. Companies like Charter can tap into regions they never had access to and the Big 12 can finally have that network they always wanted without competing in Florida and ESPN.

 

[Tiger_Pride76]

UCF to SEC a done deal

 

[AAC6800]

By the time expansion talks start up again, Memphis will be back to their old selves.

 

[UCFhonors]

Usually I'm not concerned with faceless twitter users but this guy has been right time and time again. He correctly announced Maryland to the Big 10 weeks before it became public. Also, he announced Big 10 expansion of lesser sports (rowing, hockey) months before that became public. He has credibility in my opinion.

Haha. You just lost all your street cred supportive Tuxedo Yoda.

 

[Jaredf29]

UCF to SEC a done deal

Do you need the crisis hotline number?

 

[MasterKnight]

There were a total of 6 bcs schools who won 30 games in the last 3 years, and we were one of them. The point is they are making a business decision, not a emotional one. If they were the Big would have never taken Mary or Rutgers. The Big, SEC, and ACC have been expanding the footprint and buying markets. TCU was a market pick, WV was the best name available at the moment. What will the B12 want now? No one really knows.

There were and are 5 to 8 schools out there that could make sense depending on what a P5 conf is looking for, that was true last year and still this year. They will choose based on what they are looking for, not what the flavor of the week is.

Lol TCU was a market pick. Cause Dallas ft worth didn't watch Texas tamu Baylor or Tex tech. They were a GREAT football program in a big market. Their success got them in.