Virginia reduces athetic fees..

[goodknightfl]

Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

about time someone looks out for students

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Then you might as well kiss all UCF athletics good bye. Forever.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.



This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Then you might as well kiss all UCF athletics good bye. Forever.

Of all the dumb things this clown has said, this takes the cake.

 

[Knight_Light]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Dang...must be nice to be an almost 200 year old Univ, basically started by some of our country's founding fathers..and who's current endowment worth is now over $7 Billion.

Of...and said school is in a P5 Conf getting so much funny money from their TV contract/partners its sickening.

Yeah...UCF or any other FLA school should do exactly what UVA is doing.....not!

 

[brahmanknight]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Why? What's the problem?

 

[goodknightfl]

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Then you might as well kiss all UCF athletics good bye. Forever.

So be it. Seems to me they collect something like 17 mil per year, much from students who don't attend anything. As much of a fan as I am, I would rather see the kids borrow less money getting their education.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Then you might as well kiss all UCF athletics good bye. Forever.

So be it. Seems to me they collect something like 17 mil per year, much from students who don't attend anything. As much of a fan as I am, I would rather see the kids borrow less money getting their education.

While we're at it, let's also get rid of the health fee since most kids don't go to the clinic, the technology fee, since most kids in the dorms probably use the web to get porn and pirate music, and the transportation fee, since most kids drive to campus and those pesky buses (although mostly full and ease the convenience of travel around UCF) take up space at stoplights. Let's go ahead and get rid of all lab or material and supply needs for classes since that's useless too.

 

[goodknightfl]

Sorry, charging kids that in many cases 2 to 5 k extra, that they have to borrow and eventually pay back so you can afford 1 to 7 mil dollar coaches, and stipend to kids already getting educated for free, and massive stadiums and arenas. it's robbing the poor to pay the rich. Which you liberals are supposed to hate. I also am against cities and counties building stadiums for rich professional team owners. If they want them let them pay for them.


Hell even Obama wants to stop funding pro stadiums.



This post was edited on 3/31 8:04 PM by goodknightfl

no more pro goodies

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Sorry, charging kids that in many cases 2 to 5 k extra, that they have to borrow and eventually pay back so you can afford 1 to 7 mil dollar coaches, and stipend to kids already getting educated for free, and massive stadiums and arenas. it's robbing the poor to pay the rich. Which you liberals are supposed to hate. I also am against cities and counties building stadiums for rich professional team owners. If they want them let them pay for them.


Hell even Obama wants to stop funding pro stadiums.



This post was edited on 3/31 8:04 PM by goodknightfl

I'm not a liberal, but thanks for playing. These fees don't pay for massive stadiums and arenas, but I'm sure you knew that already.

 

[CommuterBob]

The athletic fee is $14.32 per credit hour. A full time student taking 30 hours per year is paying like $421 per year or about $1700 over the course of their undergrad career. $2k at the most. They wouldn't approach $5k unless they were on the 10 year plan.
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[goodknightfl]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Good socialist ye all be...

I always believed on standing on my own 2 feet. You believe in walking across the backs of the masses, to pay for your million plus coaches. If an sports establishment, that doesn't even pay it players a decent wage can't make $$$ it should go the hell away. If boosters, fans, and the insider elites don't want to pay for it, don't stick it on the little guy.
Now to be honest the fee can not go away all at once, but should start to be reduced until it can. Cut it by 1 dollar every couple of years. If the dept still can not support itself, then it has showed it is not that important to those with the power and money.







This post was edited on 3/31 11:45 PM by goodknightfl

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Fla should do the same, and eventually eliminate them.


This post was edited on 3/31 4:51 PM by goodknightfl

Good socialist ye all be...

I always believed on standing on my own 2 feet. You believe in walking across the backs of the masses, to pay for your million plus coaches. If an sports establishment, that doesn't even pay it players a decent wage can't make $$$ it should go the hell away. If boosters, fans, and the insider elites don't want to pay for it, don't stick it on the little guy.
Now to be honest the fee can not go away all at once, but should start to be reduced until it can. Cut it by 1 dollar every couple of years. If the dept still can not support itself, then it has showed it is not that important to those with the power and money.







This post was edited on 3/31 11:45 PM by goodknightfl
Why are you equating professional sports to collegiate sports? You are trying to use one to justify your point and it has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Nothing. Boosters, fans, and insider elites do pay for UCF athletics, as well as the student body. Are our fees higher than other schools? Absolutely. We don't have the luxury of fat TV contracts to make up for the rest. But those fees go to sustain (now please turn your damn hearing aid up) SCHOLARSHIPS, LIVING EXPENSES, AND ACADEMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEN AND WOMEN IN ALL DIFFERENT REVENUE AND NON-REVENUE SPORTS. THIS MONEY DOESN'T GO TO BUILDING STADIUMS, ARENAS, OR PAYING COACHES' SALARIES.

I really don't understand why this is so hard for you to get or how you then take this and compare it to a professional franchise. But please, go on with your SOCIALIST!!!!! rhetoric. It's amusing.

 

[brahmanknight]

Originally posted by goodknightfl:
Sorry, charging kids that in many cases 2 to 5 k extra, that they have to borrow and eventually pay back so you can afford 1 to 7 mil dollar coaches, and stipend to kids already getting educated for free, and massive stadiums and arenas. it's robbing the poor to pay the rich. Which you liberals are supposed to hate. I also am against cities and counties building stadiums for rich professional team owners. If they want them let them pay for them.


Hell even Obama wants to stop funding pro stadiums.



This post was edited on 3/31 8:04 PM by goodknightfl

Nope, nope, athletes don't get "educated for free."

They perform a sport for the university, and in return the university gives them 1 year scholarships, renewable every year.

Nothing in life is free. That line of thinking is (p)athetic.

This post was edited on 4/1 7:07 AM by brahmanknight

 

[brahmanknight]

Also, can I get a definition of "insider elite?"

 

[UCFWayne]

I think that in many of the P5 cases they should reduce the student athletic fees. But they certainly help more than just build stadiums and arenas.

 

[Good Knight Sweetheart]

We should also eliminate academic scholarships. If they're so smart, let them figure out how to pay for college.
#yourlogic
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[UCFKnight85]

Ironic that the guy who didn't attend college wants athletic fees removed from tuition.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
Ironic that the guy who didn't attend college wants athletic fees removed from tuition.

WHAAAA???

I mean, I always figured that goodknightfl didn't finish college but I surmised that he AT LEAST attended FTU/UCF when they'd take anyone with a pulse and a Social Security Number. It's only been in the last two decades that they instituted bare minimums that he certainly couldn't ever meet.

This post was edited on 4/2 8:34 AM by KnighttimeJoe

 

[Sir Galahad]

Goodnight, since I don't use so much of the federal government, can I opt out of paying my federal taxes?

 

[brahmanknight]

Originally posted by KnighttimeJoe:

Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
Ironic that the guy who didn't attend college wants athletic fees removed from tuition.

WHAAAA???

I mean, I always figured that goodknightfl didn't finish college but I surmised that he AT LEAST attended FTU/UCF when they'd take anyone with a pulse and a Social Security Number. It's only been in the last two decades that they instituted bare minimums that he certainly couldn't ever meet.

This post was edited on 4/2 8:34 AM by KnighttimeJoe

No, his daughter attended. He's said that more than a few times over the years.

And I'm pretty sure UCF still took anyone with a pulse when I got in. I never heard of getting rejected by UCF until ~2002.

 

[goodknightfl]

I attended a jr college for a year and a half. Was working full time, running a small fishing business, and paying my way as I went. Think I earned 39 credits before I left. Since then I have taken a college level Small business class, and real estate class. My daughter has 2 degrees from UCF. I never regretting going to, nor leaving school, up until maybe the last year when the local gov'ts threw new laws, placed on top of the recently put in place state laws designed to clean up the rivers. They have done serious damage they to my business,
That along with being 60 years old, I wouldn't mind having a few more options than I do now without the degree. No I am not complaining about laws to clean up the rivers. They were needed, the state put scientific based, intelligent laws in place which were workable. The counties additions were neither based on good science nor workable. As a direct result of the county laws, my business is off over 10% from a year ago, you add that to the still weak economy, I am not sure my 28 year old business will be here in 2 years.

I do not think UCF should kill the fee today, simply start on a path to reduce or eliminate them I suggested a $1 every other year, at that rate it would take 29 or 30 years to completely get rid of the fee. or 10 to 15 years to make it more in line with other schools.
Someone from the B12 even mentioned UCF getting 40+% of its budget from fees as being worrisome.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Yea, well, shit B12 programs like Iowa State and Kansas get cut a fat $20M check every year for no other reason than sharing a conference with Texas and Oklahoma.

That's what they have going for them- and that's about it. But they get that $20M anyways.

UCF doesn't have that, but we have a 60,000+ student enrollment. To suggest we shouldn't leverage that to assist with the athletics budget, just because other P5 shit programs don't have to use athletic fees because they get massive TV checks that they don't deserve, is ridiculous.

And the amount we get from students would only be "worrisome" to some ignorant hack who refuses to admit that half the Big 12 would be doing the same if their TV welfare checks stopped rolling in.

 

[goodknightfl]

I understand the difference in TV revenue. I am not recommending draconian changes. 50 cents per year. If school size continues to grow as expected, revenue from fees may well stay flat for a while.