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YAY..PITCHERS HITTING IS SO AWESOME!!!
Maybe now the dunderheads that run the NL will wake the F up and play real baseball with DH as EVERY OTHER PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE DOES
Maybe now the dunderheads that run the NL will wake the F up and play real baseball with DH as EVERY OTHER PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE DOES
You really think that's going to do it? We'll probably have pitchers hitting 20 years from now.
The NL needs to put in a DH now. It's absurd that one of the best pitchers in the game is done for the season because he was taking a meaningless hack at a ball to improve his .110 batting average. The Cards looked like far and away the best team in the Central, but now that's at risk.
I shouldn't have to explain why the Cubs always have, and always will, choke and lose in the end.
Actually, you would have to. Because they are never in it to begin with.
Think objectively. With the many pieces of talent in place and Joe, this ain't your usual Cubs' team.
It eliminates a risk. Pitchers hitting has become so awful. Pitchers are not required to hit in the minors unless they're in AA or AAA and it is 2 NL affiliates facing off. Then, once they get to the bigs and are still trying to throw strikes, we ask them to take time away for what we pay them for in order to flail three times or to drop a bunt. It's f'n stupid. Baseball has hundreds of ways to strategize within a game; it can do without pitchers batting & the handful of "strategies" that go along with it.
This is pitchers' batting stats by wRC+ over the past 95 years from this great article. Enough is enough
It eliminates a risk. Pitchers hitting has become so awful. Pitchers are not required to hit in the minors unless they're in AA or AAA and it is 2 NL affiliates facing off. Then, once they get to the bigs and are still trying to throw strikes, we ask them to take time away for what we pay them for in order to flail three times or to drop a bunt. It's f'n stupid. Baseball has hundreds of ways to strategize within a game; it can do without pitchers batting & the handful of "strategies" that go along with it.
This is pitchers' batting stats by wRC+ over the past 95 years from this great article. Enough is enough
BTW, I am not arguing with you. I'm just merely pointing out that this same argument has been going on since I started following baseball in the 1980s. And there really has not been one inch gained in changing this in the NL since then. Not one.
Yea, but Manfred seems serious about doing change. All it will take is giving the NL teams an olive branch...and the fact that they now have the next 4 All Star games doesn't seem accidental. The league has always alternated the hosting cities between the AL & NL leagues.
This year Cincy, then San Diego, then Miami, then Washington.
I expect the DH before the end of this decade if not next season.
Let me ask you: why is it that Selig and then Vincent before that did nothing to change it?
Selig was extemely laissez-faire and both guys ruled in an era where offense was not a problem.
Mannfred has continually talked about adding offense and this would be a painless move. The MLBPA would immediately sign on because it would increase job salaries.
The biggest thing is people see all DH's like David Ortiz when in fact most teams use it as a rotating day off in the field to keep their stars fresh over the course of a full season. So much good can come from a DH in baseball. Consistent rules in the sport would be a great first. Imagine if the NFL or NBA operated under two different sets of rules, like the Eastern Conference having a 4-point line or the AFC eliminating the extra point and requiring a 2-point conversion?
You'll have to forgive him for thinking that way. 107 years without winning a World Series will cause people to attach certain stereotypes.
While I keep in mind that Cubs stands for:
Consistently
Unravels
By
September
...I'm still maintaining false hopes.....
Consistently
Unravels
By
September
...I'm still maintaining false hopes.....
Cubs have some legit young players. They are/will be fun to watch.
As for the DH, I don't care which way they go but both leagues need to be the same. No way the MLBPA goes for eliminating a position so I expect the NL to have the DH eventually.
As for the DH, I don't care which way they go but both leagues need to be the same. No way the MLBPA goes for eliminating a position so I expect the NL to have the DH eventually.
that hot head Zambrano was the only pitcher I enjoyed watch hit a few years ago
I like this new commish Manfred. That new time rule between innings is already noticeable and has improved the pace of the games
I like this new commish Manfred. That new time rule between innings is already noticeable and has improved the pace of the games
welp....he's another Bud Selig
http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/568924/manfred-status-quo-person-designated-hitter
http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/568924/manfred-status-quo-person-designated-hitter
The Cards need to pony up the $$$ and get Cole Hamels from Philly. They've got a great team with a solid starting rotation, and Hamels could fill in for Wainwright as the ace of the club going forward.
PS- how about Chris Archer? Dude has a .84 ERA, 37 SOs, 6 BBs, and has given up 18 hits.
PS- how about Chris Archer? Dude has a .84 ERA, 37 SOs, 6 BBs, and has given up 18 hits.
Baseball should be played where the guys on the field, also step into the box. Period.
Waino getting hurt sucks. He was primed for another great year. He is a personal friend, and I told him the same thing. You're a baseball player, part of baseball is trying to hit. But the fact of the matter is it wasn't the swing that hurt him, it was the hesitation the sprint.
Waino getting hurt sucks. He was primed for another great year. He is a personal friend, and I told him the same thing. You're a baseball player, part of baseball is trying to hit. But the fact of the matter is it wasn't the swing that hurt him, it was the hesitation the sprint.
The Cards are probably going to have to get in line for Cole behind several teams. I imagine the Botox want him too.
The Sox entire rotation sucks. The Cards are at this point a clear frontrunner with the Mets for best in the NL, so if money is similar, I would think Hamels would choose STL to make a playoff run and pitch in an already great rotation.
They have been the class of the NL Central and nothing is different this year ,and they're sitting at 16-6, tied for best record in the majors.
Went to the NLCS last year.
With Wainy they absolutely were one of the front runners. With Hamels they'd still be.
Cubs will probably go after him too. They need one more arm in an already solid rotation. With him, just mail the division to Chicago.
lol
Let's first see if the Cubs are still relevant in early September. That would be a step forward for them.
Let's first see if the Cubs are still relevant in early September. That would be a step forward for them.
Cole won't have much say in it and he Cards don't have nearly the same level of quantity of prospects that the Sox do.
Yea, well, NESN is reporting today that Boston does not want to part with Betts or Swihart, which would be the 2 prized gems Philly wants.
Boston has money. My guess is they'll hold firm on their prospects and go spend in the offseason if need be.
Boston has money. My guess is they'll hold firm on their prospects and go spend in the offseason if need be.
@UCFKnight85 (forgot we can tag people now) this is as good a place to ask as there is without a new thread.... Why did the Cards give up on Joe Kelly so quickly? Never saw him pitch there outside of highlights but a young guy with an electric arm like his is usually someone you hang on to
I think because Kelly was hurt quite often and they wanted a more stable guy in the rotation. Plus Lackey was only due the league minimum salary which made him really valuable.
Makes sense. I forgot Lackey got hit with that clause in his deal. Results weren't good for Kelly yesterday but dude is throwing 97 with great movement. He's going to be really good when he puts it all together.
These bats haven't even started to get warm yet.
...but dropping two of three to the Brewers, before they fire their coach, isn't a good sign.
It's gonna happen.
We'll see how Joe Maddon handles things in Chicago. The Cubs spent a lot of money to become relevant again, so there is a lot of pressure on him to deliver. Now.
He never had that pressure in Tampa since everyone knew the roster payroll was tiny. He was praised just for having them compete annually with the payroll we have.
He never had that pressure in Tampa since everyone knew the roster payroll was tiny. He was praised just for having them compete annually with the payroll we have.
