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we might be seeing the early effects of dementia. he seemed very confused at times last night and didnt make sense.Anybody else catch Bidens rant just a minute ago? We need social services to go in and teach people how to parent because they don't know, and parents need to keep the record player on.
The other candidates were practically giggling.
we might be seeing the early effects of dementia. he seemed very confused at times last night and didnt make sense.
He just can't talk as fast as the others.
Who has a more advanced state of dementia, Biden or Trump?
He can for a while, but he doesn't keep it going. I thought he absolutely dominated that debate until that moment, but it was a really bad moment. I don't know if he wears out or what but he doesn't have enough stamina to make it through high pressure situations for long enough to be confident in him.
I honestly doubt it. The people in the rust belt voted for him because of "jobs". That has improved since he took office so I can't see those states flipping back to someone who was a big part of their angst. The status quo tends to be a big factor when it comes to incumbents when things aren't a total disaster, and quite honestly all of the problems/scandals that have been laid at his feet really dont resonate with the person who is just trying to make a living. It would take a catastrophe of epic proportions for Trump to be beaten, and even a stock market collapse isnt probably on that level.Trump's numbers are pretty much baked in. Without a 3rd party candidate, he can't win. Joe, can probably win without campaigning on likability and familiarity alone.
Just wait until the Democrat nominee is selected and watch what happens when Trump starts pounding on all of the statements and policy ideas that are coming out now. The only candidate that could possibly come back to the middle is Biden and he's absolutely defective. That's aside from the fact that the pollsters still don't know how to accurately count Trump voters.I honestly doubt it. The people in the rust belt voted for him because of "jobs". That has improved since he took office so I can't see those states flipping back to someone who was a big part of their angst. The status quo tends to be a big factor when it comes to incumbents when things aren't a total disaster, and quite honestly all of the problems/scandals that have been laid at his feet really dont resonate with the person who is just trying to make a living. It would take a catastrophe of epic proportions for Trump to be beaten, and even a stock market collapse isnt probably on that level.
Just wait until the Democrat nominee is selected and watch what happens when Trump starts pounding on all of the statements and policy ideas that are coming out now. The only candidate that could possibly come back to the middle is Biden and he's absolutely defective. That's aside from the fact that the pollsters still don't know how to accurately count Trump voters.
I honestly doubt it. The people in the rust belt voted for him because of "jobs". That has improved since he took office so I can't see those states flipping back to someone who was a big part of their angst. The status quo tends to be a big factor when it comes to incumbents when things aren't a total disaster, and quite honestly all of the problems/scandals that have been laid at his feet really dont resonate with the person who is just trying to make a living. It would take a catastrophe of epic proportions for Trump to be beaten, and even a stock market collapse isnt probably on that level.
Just wait until the Democrat nominee is selected and watch what happens when Trump starts pounding on all of the statements and policy ideas that are coming out now. The only candidate that could possibly come back to the middle is Biden and he's absolutely defective. That's aside from the fact that the pollsters still don't know how to accurately count Trump voters.
This not a true and complete statement and it is not a myth. Besides that many of the major polls were from 3 - 6 points in the popular vote, they all had Clinton winning the electoral college by a decent margin. From the Pew article below:That's a myth. They counted Trump's voters just fine. The polls had HRC winning a national popularity vote by 2-3%, and that is exactly what happened. Trump needs to worry if he's down 8-10 points, which Biden is consistently polling at. Agree with Bernie or Warren. You can attack Biden all you want to, he's a known quantity, everyone knows what they are getting.
This not a true and complete statement and it is not a myth. Besides that many of the major polls were from 3 - 6 points in the popular vote, they all had Clinton winning the electoral college by a decent margin. From the Pew article below:
"With few exceptions, the final round of public polling showed Clinton with a lead of 1 to 7 percentage points in the national popular vote."
"Relying largely on opinion polls, election forecasters put Clinton’s chance of winning at anywhere from 70% to as high as 99%, and pegged her as the heavy favorite to win a number of states such as Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that in the end were taken by Trump."
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/
Also, The Wrap listed the major polls on Monday before the election:
Bloomberg: Clinton +3
CBS News: Clinton +4
Fox News: Clinton +4
Reuters: Clinton +3
ABC/Washington Post: Clinton +4
Monmouth: Clinton +6
Economist/YouGov: Clinton +4
Rasmussem: Clinton +2
NBC News: Clinton +6
https://www.thewrap.com/every-poll-that-got-election-wrong-donald-trump/
National polling got it right, Trump won based on 5 or 6 states where they got it wrong. Nobody predicted him winning Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, but on a national level they pretty much nailed it.This not a true and complete statement and it is not a myth. Besides that many of the major polls were from 3 - 6 points in the popular vote, they all had Clinton winning the electoral college by a decent margin. From the Pew article below:
"With few exceptions, the final round of public polling showed Clinton with a lead of 1 to 7 percentage points in the national popular vote."
"Relying largely on opinion polls, election forecasters put Clinton’s chance of winning at anywhere from 70% to as high as 99%, and pegged her as the heavy favorite to win a number of states such as Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that in the end were taken by Trump."
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/
Also, The Wrap listed the major polls on Monday before the election:
Bloomberg: Clinton +3
CBS News: Clinton +4
Fox News: Clinton +4
Reuters: Clinton +3
ABC/Washington Post: Clinton +4
Monmouth: Clinton +6
Economist/YouGov: Clinton +4
Rasmussem: Clinton +2
NBC News: Clinton +6
https://www.thewrap.com/every-poll-that-got-election-wrong-donald-trump/
Disagree. That is the matchup where undecideds play a huge factor. Bernie or Warren make it a much clearer choice from the onset, Biden is way more of a moderate wildcard. I could see a lot of people waffling there, but nobody else in the field is even close to that.There would be very few undecided voters in a Biden vs Trump match up.
Disagree. That is the matchup where undecideds play a huge factor. Bernie or Warren make it a much clearer choice from the onset, Biden is way more of a moderate wildcard. I could see a lot of people waffling there, but nobody else in the field is even close to that.
That's a myth. They counted Trump's voters just fine. The polls had HRC winning a national popularity vote by 2-3%, and that is exactly what happened. Trump needs to worry if he's down 8-10 points, which Biden is consistently polling at. Agree with Bernie or Warren. You can attack Biden all you want to, he's a known quantity, everyone knows what they are getting.
For every 1 waffling voter that may go either way between Trump and Biden there will be 2 liberals that aren't engaged because nothing they care about is on the table. That's the reason Hillary lost. Low turnout due to the fact that she had 0 big policies. She ran on the platform that she wasn't Donald Trump and that's what Biden is trying to do.Disagree. That is the matchup where undecideds play a huge factor. Bernie or Warren make it a much clearer choice from the onset, Biden is way more of a moderate wildcard. I could see a lot of people waffling there, but nobody else in the field is even close to that.
For every 1 waffling voter that may go either way between Trump and Biden there will be 2 liberals that aren't engaged because nothing they care about is on the table. That's the reason Hillary lost. Low turnout due to the fact that she had 0 big policies. She ran on the platform that she wasn't Donald Trump and that's what Biden is trying to do.
Anyone who's still deciding on supporting Trump in 2020 will never vote Democrat anyway so you might as well fire up the voters that normally stay home.
Spoiler: the "fringe" candidates have like 70% of the primary poll numbers. Hope this helps.Not true at all. I’m having dinner as we speak with someone who is voting against Trump 100% UNLESS a Warren or Sanders is the nominee.
There absolutely are people who would vote democrat unless they throw a left wing fringe candidate out there
For every 1 waffling voter that may go either way between Trump and Biden there will be 2 liberals that aren't engaged because nothing they care about is on the table. That's the reason Hillary lost. Low turnout due to the fact that she had 0 big policies. She ran on the platform that she wasn't Donald Trump and that's what Biden is trying to do.
Anyone who's still deciding on supporting Trump in 2020 will never vote Democrat anyway so you might as well fire up the voters that normally stay home.
Spoiler: the "fringe" candidates have like 70% of the primary poll numbers. Hope this helps.
"In my opinion, Republicans should primary Trump with someone more moderate."
You see how that statement holds little weight coming from someone like me.
Hopefully you're smart enough to realize the reverse is true as well.
The only candidate for president with lower favorability than Hillary was Trump and he won. What s your point? Democrats don't need to spend their time converting undecided voters. Anyone who's undecided on Trump at this point is just ashamed to admit they support him but they'll never vote dem.Everybody hates Hillary. The same can't be said about Biden.
Also, you're a rude POS for posting on a message board during dinner. Get your shit together you filthy millennial.Not true at all. I’m having dinner as we speak with someone who is voting against Trump 100% UNLESS a Warren or Sanders is the nominee.
There absolutely are people who would vote democrat unless they throw a left wing fringe candidate out there
Also, you're a rude POS for posting on a message board during dinner. Get your shit together you filthy millennial.