Which was better accomplishment?

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  1. BlakNGoldAllDay

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    First one has 2 Ls...second one no Ls. I vote second.
     
  3. BlakNGoldAllDay

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    High School Harry jumped aboard. Not sure if agenda but agrees with me.
     
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    What about 800 yards and 14 TDs again this schedule!!


    2017 Notre Dame Football Schedule
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    SATURDAY, SEP 2
    Temple
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    W 49-16
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    SATURDAY, SEP 9
    Georgia
    7:30pm ET | NBC


    L 20-19
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    SATURDAY, SEP 16
    atBoston College
    3:30pm ET | ESPN


    W 49-20
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    SATURDAY, SEP 23
    atMichigan State
    8:00pm ET | FOX


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    SATURDAY, SEP 30
    Miami (Ohio)
    5:00pm ET | NBCSN


    W 52-17
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    SATURDAY, OCT 7
    atNorth Carolina
    3:30pm ET | ABC


    W 33-10
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    SATURDAY, OCT 21
    USC
    7:30pm ET | NBC


    W 49-14
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    SATURDAY, OCT 28
    NC State
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    W 35-14
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    SATURDAY, NOV 4
    Wake Forest
    3:30pm ET | NBC


    W 48-37
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    SATURDAY, NOV 11
    atMiami (FL)
    8:00pm ET | ABC


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    SATURDAY, NOV 18
    Navy
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    W 24-17
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    SATURDAY, NOV 25
    atStanford
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    L 38-20
    Citrus Bowl
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    MONDAY, JAN 1
    vsLSU
    *in Orlando, FL
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    W 21-17
     
  5. BlakNGoldAllDay

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    Ok if you want to say Wimbush is more athletic than both. Maybe. But we’ve had multiple athletic QBs in last 20 years. In any case you can make a case for multiple guys being just as athletic as Culpepper. Results or not.
     
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    Name 1
     
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    Speed Kills."

    You've probably heard that phrase when it comes to sports, and it couldn't be more true. Nine times out of 10, the faster athlete is going to be the more dominant athlete. Speed is going to allow them to move up and down the field or court faster as well as make shots, passes or any type of play at a more rapid rate. If you want to be considered athletic, you're going to need some speed.

    So multiple are just as fast or faster.
     
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    Daunte was probably the most athletic QB at UCF and Wimbush is probably second

    Speed and athleticism are not the same.
     
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    Being fast is the best indicator of being athletic.
     
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    Oh...this thread turned out slightly different than I thought it would....I thought pulling off the "sisters switch" would have been one of the items. (Or the much easier and less impressive roommate switch).

    The Plan


    The Result
     
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    Incorrect. Not by definition. Not one single mention of fast. Actually this definition strongly describes Culpepper and Wimbush. However, it doesn’t describe Milton much at all

    ath·let·ic
    /ˌaTH(ə)ˈledik/

    adjective
    1. 1.
      physically strong, fit, and active.
      "big, muscular, athletic boys"
      synonyms: muscular, muscly, sturdy, strapping, well built, powerfully built, strong, powerful, robust, able-bodied, vigorous, hardy, lusty, hearty, hale and hearty, brawny, burly, broad-shouldered, thickset, Herculean.
     
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    That’s the 1980 version of athletic. Not today’s. Brock Resner is athletic with that definition. Probably actually the 1930 definition. If you don’t think AK is more athletic than people bigger and stronger than you can just go keeping on thinking you’re right.
     
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    AK is very fast

    I would not consider him athletic. Nor have I ever heard him described as such

    He’s not super shifty. Doesn’t make a lot of people miss

    He’s not big and powerful

    He ran track, because he is fast, however he isn’t good at other sports like basketball or baseball to the best of my knowledge
     
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    Bo Jackson was one of the most athletic person in the history of the world

    He was considered athletic in 1982 and would be considered athletic in 2019
     
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    Yes he was very fast.
     
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    Yes. However, he was a great athlete for all those things in addition to being fast
    Not just being fast alone

    Pietro Mennea (probably never heard of him) held the 200 meters record for 17 years at 19.72.

    He was fast, but was sooooo not athletic
     
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    Dude stop you sound like a fool. Lebron James is not the fastest guy in the NBA but he certainly is the most athletic. JJ Watt is not the fastest guy in the NFL but he is one of the most athletic. Milton is faster than Trevor Lawrence and I'd say Trevor Lawrence is more athletic.
     
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    Lebron the most athletic? Get out of here. Vince carter was way more athletic than him. You guys put size ahead of all other attributes. Size is not athleticism. It’s just an advantage.
     
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    The o-line in 1998 was nowhere near what 2017 was, especially in depth. Also the system was different.
     
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    No it is not...Is this guy more athletic than Culpepper?
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    No idea who he is. Probably a distance runner? That’s endurance. I never said Culpepper wasn’t a good athlete. My point was we’ve had plenty of athletic guys in between Daunte and Wimbush. Those 2 aren’t the greatest athletes we’ve had at QB ever. Plenty of athletes in between.
     
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    A world class long distance runner maybe needs to excel only in endurance and probably doesn't need nearly as many skills as an NBA MVP........So who is more athletic? A competitor who has a ton of only one athletic skill or the one who is exceptional in several athletic areas?
    .............IMO the best true athlete is one who has enough exceptional skills that they can compete at a very high level in multiple sports......
     
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    Daunte was the most athletic QB we ever had. Was he the most skilled? Did he have the best vision? No. But he was the most athletic hands down. Athleticism is not the measure of success.
     
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    The argument wasn’t if Culpepper was athletic. It’s that no one after him was until Wimbush. That’s false.
     
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    Speed is one of the most visible athletic attributes but strength, power, agility, coordination, balance, endurance, and accuracy are other important physical athletic attributes. Additionally there are cognitive athletic attributes like multiple object tracking, reaction time, etc. that enable athletes to use their physical skills successfully.
     
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    Also, they're all more athletic than me.
     
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    “‘Daunte wasn’t a super athlete. He ran through guys. Not around them. Milton was probably a better athlete.”
     
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    So what? How does make you a better athlete. Milton HAS to run around them because he is not as big and strong. I would say that being able to run through the guys makes you a better athlete.
     
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    It’s wasn’t my post. I just posted what was said by someone else

    I agree with you
     
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    It makes you bigger. Deion couldn’t run through anyone but easily around a lot of people. That’s pretty athletic.
     
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    He was a machine.

    Saw him play once at Auburn...man amongst boys.

    Saw him hit home runs a mile long...once at Tinker Field and then several times at Baseball & Boardwalk during Spring Training games with the Royals.

    MLB All-Star Game and NFL Pro Bowl same season....he was the man!

    Believe it was the 30 for 30 on Jackson I saw...great story...goes into detail about his time at Auburn (including playing baseball) and then his situation with the Bucs...("Dont draft me") and the Bucs were cursed for the following 2 decades.

    Here is a Sports Century story
     
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    Arguably the greatest athlete of all time. I heard reports that he ran a 4.19 forty

    Guy hit a lot of home runs with a hip replacement. Ridiculous
     
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    It makes you faster Deion HAD to to run around people. See how that works? Daunte could do both
     
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    Culpepper would have eaten Wimbush with his breakfast Wheaties. Not really sure if you’re trying to make a comparison, but you shouldn’t. Culpepper was a NFL QB, doubtful Wimbush ever is. We got very lucky to have Culpepper for the time we did, especially considering how young the program was at that time.

    Wimbush is still a good QB though...
     

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