Why are the other 3 officers being charged?

[Crazyhole]

Chauvin did the deed and should be punished for it. Why are the other 3 officers being charged for not stopping it but all of the people standing around that were recording it so they could put it on Instagram not charged as well? Maybe put your phone down and stop Chauvin from murdering someone instead of trying to go viral on the internet.

 

[fried-chicken]

Chauvin did the deed and should be punished for it. Why are the other 3 officers being charged for not stopping it but all of the people standing around that were recording it so they could put it on Instagram not charged as well? Maybe put your phone down and stop Chauvin from murdering someone instead of trying to go viral on the internet.

You want a civ to stop a cop from detaining someone? You know if the punishment for a counterfeit bill is death the punishment for assault on LEO and obstruction is also death right?

 

[Crazyhole]

You want a civ to stop a cop from detaining someone? You know if the punishment for a counterfeit bill is death the punishment for assault on LEO and obstruction is also death right?

Didn't you get the memo? Black lives matter and we need to protect them, not record their death so it can go on facebook.

 

[Crazyhole]

would you have just stood there and videotaped a man being killed and then posted it on social media? How could anybody live with themselves if they just stood by and watched a murder and their first thought was to record it for Instagram? After 8 minutes, doesn't your conscience kick in and say "I probably should do something to help this guy"?

 

[fried-chicken]

would you have just stood there and videotaped a man being killed and then posted it on social media? How could anybody live with themselves if they just stood by and watched a murder and their first thought was to record it for Instagram? After 8 minutes, doesn't your conscience kick in and say "I probably should do something to help this guy"?

I am doing something to help the next guy, im voting democrat.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I am doing something to help the next guy, im voting democrat.

This is what people think who are selfish hermits that do nothing personally to help others, and are especially susceptible to believe fairly tales from socialists.

 

[goodknightfl]

As an officer they had a responsibility for stopping a crime happening right in front of them.

 

[goodknightfl]

I am doing something to help the next guy, im voting democrat.

So you wish to help the next guy, while ignoring the poor girl being groped and sniffed.

 

[DaShuckster]

How could anybody live with themselves if they just stood by and watched a murder and their first thought was to record it for Instagram? After 8 minutes, doesn't your conscience kick in and say "I probably should do something to help this guy"?

Leave it to our Crazyhole to blame the bystanders to the Floyd murder. You'd think the crowd's desperate pleas to the cops to help Floyd would be enough.

But in Crazyhole's logic, if Chavin's fellow officers got arrested for being accomplices to the crime, those innocent bystanders were apparently supposed to challenge these armed thugs-in-blue.

 

[Crazyhole]

Leave it to our Crazyhole to blame the bystanders to the Floyd murder. You'd think the crowd's desperate pleas to the cops to help Floyd would be enough.

But in Crazyhole's logic, if Chavin's fellow officers got arrested for being accomplices to the crime, those innocent bystanders were apparently supposed to challenge these armed thugs-in-blue.

I'll mark you down in the category of "live broadcast a murder on twitter"

 

[DaShuckster]

I'll mark you down in the category of "live broadcast a murder on twitter"

Damn those bystanders! Would Chavin be in jail now if one of those bystanders hadn't videotaped him choking Floyd to death?

 

[Crazyhole]

Damn those bystanders! Would Chavin be in jail now if one of those bystanders hadn't videotaped him choking Floyd to death?

Would Floyd be dead if one of the bystanders stepped in?

 

[DaShuckster]

Would Floyd be dead if one of the bystanders stepped in?

Floyd would still be dead and an innocent bystander would have been arrested for interfering with an arrest.

 

[Crazyhole]

Floyd would still be dead and an innocent bystander would have been arrested for interfering with an arrest.

Arrested and immediately let off. Plus they'd have the benefit of having a clean conscience.

 

[DaShuckster]

Arrested and immediately let off. Plus they'd have the benefit of having a clean conscience.

Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Crazyhole]

Floyd was a hard criminal. Pulled a gun a pregnant woman and pointed it at her belly. 5 time felon. Clearly got in a meth rage...then settled...then crazy. Had issues breathing before anything happened. Cop definitely handled it poorly though.

So you're saying that Chauvin deserves a statue?

 

[shacket]

would you have just stood there and videotaped a man being killed and then posted it on social media? How could anybody live with themselves if they just stood by and watched a murder and their first thought was to record it for Instagram? After 8 minutes, doesn't your conscience kick in and say "I probably should do something to help this guy"?

What is your f**king point man? The civillians should have charged the murderers with guns? (Notwithstanding that it is a crime to do so and the cops just have to say they were "scared" and they can shoot you with no consequences).

Cops are supposed to protect and serve. Civillians are not supposed to interfere with police. I can't believe you are trying to defend the bystander cops and go after the civillians.

Does it work differently in Nebraska? Do you Nebraska folk jump in and push cops off of people? Get real.

 

[DaShuckster]

Cop definitely handled it poorly though.

Are you sure? 🙄

 

[Crazyhole]

What is your f**king point man? The civillians should have charged the murderers with guns? (Notwithstanding that it is a crime to do so and the cops just have to say they were "scared" and they can shoot you with no consequences).

Cops are supposed to protect and serve. Civillians are not supposed to interfere with police. I can't believe you are trying to defend the bystander cops and go after the civillians.

Does it work differently in Nebraska? Do you Nebraska folk jump in and push cops off of people? Get real.

In nebraska, people wouldn't stand around for 8 minutes watching a guy be murdered without stepping in, let alone live broadcast the whole thing. If I knew the guy was dying, you're damn right I would get arrested saving his life.

 

[shacket]

In nebraska, people wouldn't stand around for 8 minutes watching a guy be murdered without stepping in, let alone live broadcast the whole thing. If I knew the guy was dying, you're damn right I would get arrested saving his life.

1. I dont think bystanders knew the guy was dying.
2. Black people don't fear being arrested for "stepping in," they fear being KILLED. (You know, like how Lloyd was).
3. Bullshit. You would not. With 5 menacing cops there, you wouldn't do shit. Quit talking out of the side of your neck tough guy.

 

[Crazyhole]

1. I dont think bystanders knew the guy was dying.
2. Black people don't fear being arrested for "stepping in," they fear being KILLED. (You know, like how Lloyd was).
3. Bullshit. You would not. With 5 menacing cops there, you wouldn't do shit. Quit talking out of the side of your neck tough guy.

Yeah, I would. But you just made a great defense for the other 3 officers. If nobody knew he was going to die........

 

[sk8knight]

What is your f**king point man? The civillians should have charged the murderers with guns? (Notwithstanding that it is a crime to do so and the cops just have to say they were "scared" and they can shoot you with no consequences).

Cops are supposed to protect and serve. Civillians are not supposed to interfere with police. I can't believe you are trying to defend the bystander cops and go after the civillians.

Does it work differently in Nebraska? Do you Nebraska folk jump in and push cops off of people? Get real.

Crazyhole is just trying to provoke conversation.

One point of order, SCOTUS ruled in Gonzales that police have no legal responsibility to protect civilians. It’s why you don’t really see “protect and serve” on the side of cars anymore, and those that do are phasing it out.

Now, we expect our police to stop crimes, but this was a grey situation and you had rookies questioning a senior officer who had a very dangerous attitude. The charges against Chauvin are obvious; the others not so much.

 

[Crazyhole]

Crazyhole is just trying to provoke conversation.

One point of order, SCOTUS ruled in Gonzales that police have no legal responsibility to protect civilians. It’s why you don’t really see “protect and serve” on the side of cars anymore, and those that do are phasing it out.

Now, we expect our police to stop crimes, but this was a grey situation and you had rookies questioning a senior officer who had a very dangerous attitude. The charges against Chauvin are obvious; the others not so much.

Are you sure the charges against Chauvin are obvious? We were just told that nobody knew Floyd was going to die. Maybe the correct charge would be reckless endangerment.

 

[DaShuckster]

Are you sure the charges against Chauvin are obvious?

Yes. Once upon a time, you thought so too.

We were just told that nobody knew Floyd was going to die. Maybe the correct charge would be reckless endangerment.

Yeah, you disingenuously opined that the bystanders were somehow guilty by default since the three other police officers were charged. In your mind, if the bystanders are innocent then so are the police officers. Wha....?

 

[Crazyhole]

Yes. Once upon a time, you thought so too.
Yeah, you disingenuously opined that the bystanders were somehow guilty by default since the three other police officers were charged. In your mind, if the bystanders are innocent then so are the police officers. Wha....?

Clearly I'm correct. We all have the same social responsibility to protect the lives of others, right? We don't let the reckless actions of someone else put another person in danger. Ive been hearing that a lot lately.

 

[DaShuckster]

Clearly I'm correct. We all have the same social responsibility to protect the lives of others, right? We don't let the reckless actions of someone else put another person in danger. Ive been hearing that a lot lately.

I've been reading a hell of a lot of Crazyhole trolling posts lately.

 

[Crazyhole]

I've been reading a hell of a lot of Crazyhole trolling posts lately.

My kind of trolling is the best kind. When a person can't refute what the troll says and has to go to "you're just trolling", you know they hit the mark.

 

[DaShuckster]

My kind of trolling is the best kind. When a person can't refute what the troll says and has to go to "you're just trolling", you know they hit the mark.

Silly me. OF COURSE you were being dead serious when you opined that the guy with a cellphone who videotaped what the cops were doing with Floyd should feel horribly guilty for filming the scene for the world to see rather than rushing the four cops unarmed like you've stated you would have done.

To be honest, I was waiting for you to opine that the guy should be arrested for making and distributing a snuff film.

 

[shacket]

My kind of trolling is the best kind. When a person can't refute what the troll says and has to go to "you're just trolling", you know they hit the mark.

It's pretty easy to refute. You claimed you would charge 4 armed police officers to save a guy who was being choked during an arrest. You basically said anybody who didn't charge the 4 armed police officers should be charged with a crime.

Classic internet tough guy behavoir.

Side note, I am reading your post in my Trump voice. "My kind of trolling is the very best kind. I have the best trolls in the world. My trolls are YYYUUUUGGEEE."

 

[sk8knight]

Clearly I'm correct. We all have the same social responsibility to protect the lives of others, right? We don't let the reckless actions of someone else put another person in danger. Ive been hearing that a lot lately.

You’ve read my opinion a number of times. I think the charges are obvious. I think the outcome is doubtful.

 

[Crazyhole]

It's pretty easy to refute. You claimed you would charge 4 armed police officers to save a guy who was being choked during an arrest. You basically said anybody who didn't charge the 4 armed police officers should be charged with a crime.

Classic internet tough guy behavoir.

Side note, I am reading your post in my Trump voice. "My kind of trolling is the very best kind. I have the best trolls in the world. My trolls are YYYUUUUGGEEE."

I never said I would charge the cops. I sure as heck would have stepped forward and put them in a position that Floyd wouldn't have died. Its not that hard to do. Cops are reasonable people and are capable of listening to rational thought.

 

[DaShuckster]

Cops are reasonable people and are capable of listening to rational thought.

I guess this is where I mention that the bystanders pleaded with those reasonable cops to help Floyd who was struggling to breathe.

 

[shacket]

I never said I would charge the cops. I sure as heck would have stepped forward and put them in a position that Floyd wouldn't have died. Its not that hard to do. Cops are reasonable people and are capable of listening to rational thought.

Ok man. Whatever you say. It's sad for Floyd that you weren't there. He just needed somebody to "put cops in a position" where he wouldn't have died.

 

[Crazyhole]

I guess this is where I mention that the bystanders pleaded with those reasonable cops to help Floyd who was struggling to breathe.

Is this the point where we watch the video again?




Is this the point where we need to talk about the fact that the "medics" that put him into the rescue unit were sheriffs deputies and not medics at all? Seem strange how they checked his pulse for all of 2 seconds? Then no CPR?

 

[Crazyhole]

Since when does a paddy wagon include a gurney? Or, since when do armed deputies show up in an ambulance?

 

[Crazyhole]

Is this the point where we watch the video again?

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Is this the point where we need to talk about the fact that the "medics" that put him into the rescue unit were sheriffs deputies and not medics at all? Seem strange how they checked his pulse for all of 2 seconds? Then no CPR?

scroll ahead to the eight minute mark and listen to the woman laughing at the cop.

 

[shacket]

@Crazyhole we get it. You blame the bystanders not the cops.

Does that make sense? Hell no. But we get what you are trying to say. We aren't confused, your point just ludicrous on its face.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

I am doing something to help the next guy, im voting democrat.

Amen brutha!

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Floyd shouldn't have been crazy resisting on meth. I think he had covid complications that impacted his death. He was saying he couldn't breathe before anything happened. Probably a manslaughter charge at the most. The other officers shouldn't get anything.

That is some screwed up logic. Normally I wouldn't even reply to a statement so stupid...but this one takes the cake.

 

[DaShuckster]

scroll ahead to the eight minute mark and listen to the woman laughing at the cop.

Yep, the lady called the cop standing in front of them a real tough guy. The vocal crowd of bystanders were routinely heard asking why the cops never helped the victim -- even when George Floyd lay unconscious on the street.

Yeah, clearly those bystanders were guilty as sin! 🙄