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Why does the Big 12 get rewarded....

mattropolis

Diamond Knight
Jan 7, 2002
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for stupidity. For the second year in a row, if they had s title game, the same two teams would be playing the previous week. Oklahoma plays ok state next week in the defacto Big 12 title game. Then no matter the outcome they would have had to play again in the title game. How does the committee feel about it? I guess we'll find out next year but all the other P5 conferences gotta be laughing their @sses off at the position they are putting themselves in. Who is even going to want to watch it, other than fans of the two schools?
 
They all signed their death warrant when they choose not to expand. For the life me I dont get how they couldn't get the votes. Okie, Texas and Kansas are the only teams with a get out of jail free card in that conference. Atleast 4 of those teams (kansas st, iowa st, baylor and tcu) will almost certainly be left out, and for iowa st, they may struggle to even get a MWC invite with the P5 money attached to that program gone.
 
They all signed their death warrant when they choose not to expand. For the life me I dont get how they couldn't get the votes. Okie, Texas and Kansas are the only teams with a get out of jail free card in that conference. Atleast 4 of those teams (kansas st, iowa st, baylor and tcu) will almost certainly be left out, and for iowa st, they may struggle to even get a MWC invite with the P5 money attached to that program gone.

Not sure how expansion will play out down the road, but I'm not sure OU and Texas will leave. Right now I would say it is probably 50/50. The grass is not always greener on the other side. Nebraska has not fared all that well in the Big 10 since bolting the Big 12. Most of their success has come from being in the weaker division. Should UT and OU leave for the SEC, getting to a playoff would be much more difficult in that conference than it would be in the Big 12. From a talent perspective, OU and UT usually get the top recruits. If they were to join the Big 10 or SEC that would no longer be the case. Also, they would no longer "rule the roost" so to speak. In the Big 12 those schools often seem to get what they want, unless they are at odds with each other. In the SEC or Big 10, they would be just another school in that conference. Alabama and Florida are not going to take orders from Austin. Michigan and tOSU likewise will not submit to the whims of Longhorn Nation.
 
I think that Texas/OU make a move if the B12 & PAC12 get left out of the playoffs
 
Not sure how expansion will play out down the road, but I'm not sure OU and Texas will leave. Right now I would say it is probably 50/50. The grass is not always greener on the other side. Nebraska has not fared all that well in the Big 10 since bolting the Big 12. Most of their success has come from being in the weaker division. Should UT and OU leave for the SEC, getting to a playoff would be much more difficult in that conference than it would be in the Big 12. From a talent perspective, OU and UT usually get the top recruits. If they were to join the Big 10 or SEC that would no longer be the case. Also, they would no longer "rule the roost" so to speak. In the Big 12 those schools often seem to get what they want, unless they are at odds with each other. In the SEC or Big 10, they would be just another school in that conference. Alabama and Florida are not going to take orders from Austin. Michigan and tOSU likewise will not submit to the whims of Longhorn Nation.
It all comes down to dollars. If joining any other conference equates to them earning more money, they're gone.
 
It all comes down to dollars. If joining any other conference equates to them earning more money, they're gone.
Texas can't leave unless conference folds because it has the sweetest special financial deal in all of sports (as well as most of the decision-making power). OU would leave in a New York minute though if the Big 12 continues to deteriorate and the SEC offers. Don't know if they'd consider the Big Ten, which would benefit that conference more.
 
B12 is the sign that college football has gone past the point of no return and will soon become NFL jr. B12 is waiting for the grant of rights to expire and then everyone will take whatever bus they can get on and there will be 4 conferences and the playoffs will be tied to conference championships. No cross conference play. Players will get paid and the change will be complete.

UCF will remain in what is left which will continue to be what college football used to be. Not sure that is a bad thing. Not as exciting in the national perspective, but not as much BS either.
 
Right now in some publications the AAC is the 5th best conference ahead of the Big 12. Sagarin ranks the AAC West higher than the SEC East. 17 wins over P5 programs in two years. Someone needs to open their wallet.
 
Here's thinking outside the box: If/when Big 12 implodes, why shouldn't the AAC go after two of those schools in expanding to 14, and then claim the right to be the fifth conference in the Power 5. Or equivalently, the AAC attempts a merger with the Big 12, form a new conference so we can throw out tiny Tulsa and Tulane (and perhaps ECU and football only Navy), which leaves room for up to 6 of the Big 12 teams in a 14-team P-5 conference (or 16 teams lets us go after BYU, Boise St., and Colorado St. to become a truly national conference).
 
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