Biden Launches Airstrike Against Iran-Backed Militia In Syria
The move follows several rocket attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq.
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Like clockwork.
Back to war we go
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Like clockwork.
I like you. I will buy you a beer if we are ever in the same place.
Oooh, a new ISIS is going to pop up and “somehow have billions of dollars worth of American military equipment and weaponry.”
We were so close to minding our own business. Trump was far from perfect, and really let us down on Yemen, but damn it if Biden isn’t going to just rehash Obama’s horrid Warhawk policy in the Middle East. But don’t look at that, Congress has a January 6th commission to distract us whilst the elites continue to do what they do.
We were so close to minding our own business. Trump was far from perfect, and really let us down on Yemen, but damn it if Biden isn’t going to just rehash Obama’s horrid Warhawk policy in the Middle East. But don’t look at that, Congress has a January 6th commission to distract us whilst the elites continue to do what they do.
Frigging nailed it. It's not our business if Iran is in Syria. All we are doing is stoking the flames of war with this crap.
It is our business because President Jackass was so quick to undo all things Trump that he threw us back into depending on the ME for energy with one swipe of a pen. And idiots applauded it, including some on this very board. Well here we are, creating a new generation of terrorists hell-bent on killing US citizens wherever they are found.
They all knew that he was going to suck. Anything to get rid of Trump was good enough for them.
Biden Launches Airstrike Against Iran-Backed Militia In Syria
The move follows several rocket attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq.
Like clockwork.
Same old, same old. Although I guess under Trump we hit higher value targets (but then took some missles coming back at our troops) - nothing has changed.
This is the second one at least since January 20th. That’s not making friends or us safer.
So wait... Republicans don't like war, bombing brown people, and the military industrial complex, anymore?
If this had taken place when the President's name was Trump, the same posters here would have been applauding.
Same people would be calling Biden a Pussy if he had no response to the rocket attack on our troops after getting programmed by Hannity
Welcome to being on the defense. After all the shit you guys threw around for four years that didn’t stick, Republicans have finally gotten tired of playing nice. So get ready for it.
The roles have literally reversed. 4 years was nothing but mudslinging and blocking what the Republicans wanted. No matter what. Now it’s time we all come together and work as 1. No that was 4 years ago. Too late now. Both sides are exactly the same. It’s weird.
It’s kind of feels nice being the hunter for once instead of the hunted, but I still like Trump’s policies better minus the drama. It’s pretty amazing that he’s being considered for 2024 when he will be 78.
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Trump also bombed Syria (several times). I am not for this with Biden, I want us to start minding our own business, but Republicans clutching pearls over bombing now is pretty rich.
Blocking what the Republicans wanted? They got tax cuts passed, every judge was passed, got out of the Paris climate agreements, the Iran deal, etc etc. Republicans controlled everything 4 years ago, and passed pretty much whatever they wanted passed.
By all means, guys, revel in it in your 'shit throwing.'
It doesn't change the fact that if Trump had issued this air strike, you'd have been applauding his 'get tough' approach like you did with a far more dangerous bombing of an Iranian general.
This is just being misinformed. We bombed Syria in 2017, 2018, and 2019 under Trump. This is a fact. There were more drone attacks under Trump than Obama (average over 4 years). Yemen escalated under Trump. THese are facts. If you want to criticize these strikes by all means, I agree with you. But we dont have to rewrite history to do that. We were most certainly not close to minding our own business under Trump.
Why was it dangerous? No collateral damage, and we got to use one of the most badass weapons ever developed.
Because of the 'tit for tat' response we could've expected from the Iranians.
Exactly! Yet strangely, you are among the chorus of posters whining about our government's military response THIS time. What changed?
Well, shit. You’re not wrong. My hope under Trump was us moving away from the desert and being energy independent. I remember now, I was pissed at Trump for Syria in the beginning. Then he banned reporting civilian casualties. He’s an ass, but the closest thing to war avoidance we’ve had(at least in rhetoric). The Yemen thing I mentioned. We must appease the Saudis so they buy our war crap. Trump was no different than any other politician there.
I was just pissed and annoyed with more BS bombings. You were right to call out my massaging of recent history.
it's good for business. Come on man, how does Lockheed Martin sell us their newest tech if we do not engage in another endless conflict ?
y'all ever notice how the media makes the Dems to be the party of peace when over the last century in WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam are all wars we got involved in under the leadership of Dems? just sayn ...
There are plenty of threats to respond to, whether PacRim or Eurasia, without having to go reopen those wounds and reengage ourselves there.
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We don't often agree, but I really admire posters like HH. Most of us experience a brain-fart every now and then. But I find it refreshing when an 'oops' is acknowledged instead of the usual practice of throwing a few choice insults at the poster who caught it (ah, 85, we still remember you well.
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China - Taiwan is brewing
I think China is just waiting for US Hyperinflation and Defense Reductions.
I think China is just waiting for US Hyperinflation and Defense Reductions.
I’ve had defense conversations with the Taiwanese Army and with Taiwan industry in 2 administrations. Taiwan has been bolstering its defense and also developing the local defense industry for years. With that said, they are an island of 26 million that is the size of New Jersey so they are screwed if China seriously mounted an attack. The Obama admin tried to pivot to PacRim but really couldn’t focus there because of entanglements in the ME and an inability to understand that taking an apologetic and subservient role in the global political sphere only emboldens China because they see weakness.
For all the bashing Trump took in the media about forcing the NATO countries to honor their financial commitments, he was very strong behind our allies where it mattered. Taiwan was in a much better place a year ago than they are now. I can’t see Biden pushing retaliation if China installed a puppet regime in Taiwan backed by military force. Which would be a real shame.
The difference in coverage? Who knew there was a news blackout?
All I can find is Newsweek and USnews reporting on this. Seems odd.
Do you think Biden will respond in kind to this round of bombing?Whew, luckily some MSM didn't get the message.
If we're going to have soldiers stationed in the ME, then we'd damn well better respond to attacks against us or the result will mean more of them, not less.
That said, I noticed that some Democrats in Congress are grousing about Biden taking ANY military action -- even a limited strike, retaliation bombing -- without their implicit approval. While I can appreciate Americans being sick and tired of non-stop wars, the notion that a President (Democrat or Republican) can wait around for Congress to give the green light for a counter attack is complete and utter nonsense. A Commander-in-Chief needs to have the flexibility to respond immediately to an act of aggression.
I tend to agree, but this isn't an "imminent threat" type of deal. We'll probably wait a day and then volley some bombs over in response that is proportionate to what we were hit with. That just seems stupid to me. IMO, if you're going to respond, respond with a totally disproportionate level of force so that they would be discouraged from poking the bear again. I don't like wars, I don't like our people being over there, but if they are then make it a point to tell the enemy that it's in their best interest to walk away.
The whole point of retaliation is to make it crystal clear to the enemy that there are consequences to an attack against us. We don't want our brave men and women to be a target.
On the other hand, your "totally disproportionate level of force" scares the hell out of me. You're gambling that such an action doesn't incite a full-scale war. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what we DON'T want.
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