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Biden to roll out Universal Pre-K and Elder Care plans

UCFKnight85 said:
I notice you conveniently skipped my post above but that's fine. I'll just address this now.

I know you chuds love to say "It's only this much more tax on those stupid rich people!" every time you want to champion a new program and new spending that will never, ever be cut or scaled back once passed into law. The issue is not whether that is true or not for this program, the issue is that Biden and the left will have at least 6-7 more programs at least this size, or alot bigger, and the rationale will be the same every time. Just a little more tax for the evil rich!

You can only treat high wage earners as a piggy bank so many times before you realize that socialist spending eventually requires pain and taxation at the middle class level. Only the DNC won't ever admit this since it's easier to pontificate the idea that we can pass $15T in new spending and only impact what those "investment bankers" are making.
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I know this is the red hat talking point but in reality GOP has historically done more spending than Democrats and takes in less revenue. Clinton inherited a deficit of 4.4% GDP and left office with a surplus of 2.3% GDP having lowered the deficit or increased the surplus every year. Obama inherited a global recession and deficit that was 9.8% of GDP and left office with a defect of 3.1% GDP. The deficit as a percentage of GDP has grown each of the last 4 years (2017-2020) from 3.1% to 4.8% this year without Covid19 impact and 17.9% with.
 
hemightbejeremy said:
I know this is the red hat talking point but in reality GOP has historically done more spending than Democrats and takes in less revenue. Clinton inherited a deficit of 4.4% GDP and left office with a surplus of 2.3% GDP having lowered the deficit or increased the surplus every year. Obama inherited a global recession and deficit that was 9.8% of GDP and left office with a defect of 3.1% GDP. The deficit as a percentage of GDP has grown each of the last 4 years (2017-2020) from 3.1% to 4.8% this year without Covid19 impact and 17.9% with.
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I know this is a liberal rag talking point but in reality spending is directly attributable to who in Congress was passing actual spending bills. This may surprise you but Presidents do not and cannot pass their own spending appropriation bills or alter tax code. Ponder that, and try this again.
 
UCFKnight85 said:
It would make sense if there were qualifiers or if this applied to people with hardship who truly, actually need paid daycare. It doesn't make sense to spend $1T merely to solidify the idea that Americans should have kids and then ask others to pay for the daily raising of those kids by other people.
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Have you heard of public school? We dont qualify people for that. You just get it because its an important part of developing the future of a society.
 
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fried-chicken said:
Have you heard of public school? We dont qualify people for that. You just get it because its an important part of developing the future of a society.
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Our public school system is a joke despite spending the 5th most in the world on a per pupil basis. Yet, when a kid goes to 1st grade they're learning math, reading, writing, science, and critical thinking skills.

When a 2 month old child is dropped off at a day care, the infant is merely existing and getting a diaper change in between screaming and crying sessions by someone they are utterly unfamiliar with.

Comparing the two is lulz worthy
 
UCFKnight85 said:
Our public school system is a joke despite spending the 5th most in the world on a per pupil basis. Yet, when a kid goes to 1st grade they're learning math, reading, writing, science, and critical thinking skills.

When a 2 month old child is dropped off at a day care, the infant is merely existing and getting a diaper change in between screaming and crying sessions by someone they are utterly unfamiliar with.

Comparing the two is lulz worthy
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Our public school system is fine. There's no reason to change it, just like everything else.
 
UCFKnight85 said:
Our public school system is a joke despite spending the 5th most in the world on a per pupil basis. Yet, when a kid goes to 1st grade they're learning math, reading, writing, science, and critical thinking skills.

When a 2 month old child is dropped off at a day care, the infant is merely existing and getting a diaper change in between screaming and crying sessions by someone they are utterly unfamiliar with.

Comparing the two is lulz worthy
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Hes also including 12 weeks of paid leave for men and women. So it would be a 3 month old.
 
fried-chicken said:
Hes also including 12 weeks of paid leave for men and women. So it would be a 3 month old.
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Oh! Much better. I'm sure the 3 month old will be eager to learn to add and subtract while laying on its' back for 9 hours a day in daycare.
 
Look at all the people who never had to decide to put their careers on hold for financial reasons because daycare was expensive. I look forward to the heights women will climb to with these new tools available to them. Elizabeth Warren almost quit her job early on to stay home and raise her kids. Now many women who are guilted into home childcare by outdated gender norms will have options to make a choice on what they want to do. Maybe the next female president is pregnant right now and this will change her life. Only chuds will oppose this. This will be a win in the eyes of independents.
 
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UCFKnight85 said:
I know this is a liberal rag talking point but in reality spending is directly attributable to who in Congress was passing actual spending bills. This may surprise you but Presidents do not and cannot pass their own spending appropriation bills or alter tax code. Ponder that, and try this again.
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Clinton, Obama, Bush and Trump all have inherited majorities in both chambers of Congress at time of inauguration (technically 2001 was split 50/50 in the senate, but VP casts the tiebreak). The President also submits a budget for analysis by the CBO and that analysis is the basis for budget resolutions which are passed by Congress.
 
fried-chicken said:
Look at all the people who never had to decide to put their careers on hold for financial reasons because daycare was expensive. I look forward to the heights women will climb to with these new tools available to them. Elizabeth Warren almost quit her job early on to stay home and raise her kids. Now many women who are guilted into home childcare by outdated gender norms will have options to make a choice on what they want to do. Maybe the next female president is pregnant right now and this will change her life. Only chuds will oppose this. This will be a win in the eyes of independents.
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Yes those crazy outdated gender norms like "women are capable of literally producing food for their baby on their own". Incredibly sexist and outdated. We need to reverse this rhetoric and correctly assert that men could just as easily feed a baby from their nipples.
 
hemightbejeremy said:
Clinton, Obama, Bush and Trump all have inherited majorities in both chambers of Congress at time of inauguration (technically 2001 was split 50/50 in the senate, but VP casts the tiebreak). The President also submits a budget for analysis by the CBO and that analysis is the basis for budget resolutions which are passed by Congress.
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Yes, Obama did. And he passed the largest expansion of Federal spending in history which is now largely fueling the Mandatory Spending account growth that the CBO says will consume more than 70% of Federal Spending in just 10 years. Then the D's lost the House and we got the Budget Control Act that accounted for most all of the reduction in spending growth for the rest of his Presidency. You know this yes?
 
UCFKnight85 said:
Yes those crazy outdated gender norms like "women are capable of literally producing food for their baby on their own". Incredibly sexist and outdated. We need to reverse this rhetoric and correctly assert that men could just as easily feed a baby from their nipples.
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What does your wife do again?
 
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UCFKnight85 said:
Yes, Obama did. And he passed the largest expansion of Federal spending in history which is now largely fueling the Mandatory Spending account growth that the CBO says will consume more than 70% of Federal Spending in just 10 years. Then the D's lost the House and we got the Budget Control Act that accounted for most all of the reduction in spending growth for the rest of his Presidency. You know this yes?
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You mean the bipartisan legislation passed in response to the debt ceiling crisis that Obama signed into law?
 
UCFKnight85 said:
Yes those crazy outdated gender norms like "women are capable of literally producing food for their baby on their own". Incredibly sexist and outdated. We need to reverse this rhetoric and correctly assert that men could just as easily feed a baby from their nipples.
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I found a way to feed my children even when my wife wasn't there. Wiiiiild i know.
 
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