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Carlson floats conspiracy theory that the FBI orchestrated the Jan. 6 Capitol attack

How many more riots have there been since 1/6? Maybe a few here and there but you aren't hearing about other riots, because they have mostly stopped.

If anyone seriously thought this was from the left investigations would have started months ago. If that is honestly what you think, then essentially you are saying the Republicans doesn't want to hold these groups accountable, since they are the ones downplaying the whole thing and not wanting investigations. Do you honestly think that makes sense at all? That the Republicans don't want to hold "leftist groups" accountable for storming the capitol?
You aren't hearing about them because the media isn't covering it nearly as much. Minneapolis is in the same situation as it was last June. Portland as well.

Why do you suppose it doesn't attract attention anymore?
 
And it's that attitude why we had 'secret police' in Oregon too.

That's the difference between you and I. You want to only stop Trump and Republicans.

I want to stop all of you!
Yeah…wrong again…but keep trying. And you will never stop all of us. But anyone with a halfway functional brain can draw correlation between a president instructing people to march on the Capitol and people marching on the Capitol. That doesn’t absolve all insiders who facilitated the attack from blame. But it does make the statement that it was orchestrated by the FBI less likely to the point of being improbable.
 
You aren't hearing about them because the media isn't covering it nearly as much. Minneapolis is in the same situation as it was last June. Portland as well.

Why do you suppose it doesn't attract attention anymore?

And they are being covered, but that is two cities. Last year there were riots and protests all over the country. Regardless, that wasn't even the crux of my point. If anyone thinks it was leftie groups who stormed the capitol, then someone is going to need to explain to me why Republicans are going out of their way to downplay it and sometimes even defend them?
 
You aren't hearing about them because the media isn't covering it nearly as much. Minneapolis is in the same situation as it was last June. Portland as well.

Why do you suppose it doesn't attract attention anymore?
The same reason 1/6 doesn’t draw national attention. The news networks are producing a product to attract viewers and readers. What new news can be provided about a protest that has been going on for more than a year? When there have been people shot or run down in cars they have been reported. Other than a scene from Groundhog Day I’m not sure what you are expecting to see.
 
Yeah…wrong again…but keep trying. And you will never stop all of us.
Of course not. An ignorant mob duopoly took over years ago. You lefties seeded the 'election fraud' in 2016, and now it's 'come home' to roost in 2020.

But anyone with a halfway functional brain can draw correlation between a president instructing people to march on the Capitol and people marching on the Capitol.
What about Congressmen and women telling people to riot and cause damage to not just state and local governments, but even private property?

You can't 'But Trump' you're way out of this with Libertarians, or even Socialist Democrats let alone the ACLU, like me.

You're the type of person who has been throwing reporters in jail the past decade and a half as well, citing 'National Security.' You want more domestic spying as well.

That doesn’t absolve all insiders who facilitated the attack from blame.
Never said it did. Where did I say such?

I'm just pointing out that what some portions of the government has been engaged in since 9/11, and people like yourself actually condone, is worse. It's why we let criminals off-the-hook when there is an illegal search as well.

The government being wrong is always more wrong. To condone such is to guarantee the end of rule-of-law and freedom.

And yes, Trump is wrong. But the Media'isms and the politicians and voters who support them, are just as wrong.

But it does make the statement that it was orchestrated by the FBI less likely to the point of being improbable.
'Orchestrated' is a strong word, agreed. 'Partially encouraged' and even 'Partially facilitated' is more on-point.

And it's more wrong than the criminal act. Don't get me wrong, there was, very much so, a criminal act by citizens. And Trump isn't blameless either.

But until people like yourself only want to 'vote out' only 'half' of 'the problem,' this will continue.

It's just like what I said to Republicans when it was proven that the US gov't illegally filed FISA wiretaps with fradulent information on Private Citizen Trump ... "And once Trump became President, and it was proven he was illegally spied upon as a private citizen, did he 'tear down' the FISA Courts? Nope! Not even after a FISA Judge came out and suggested they should be."

You 'blind faith' Progressives are as bad as Trump when it comes to the Constitution. Let me say that again, your condoning this is as bad as anything Trump has ever done. Until you recognize that, we're f'd as a country. You're Pro-Big Brother.
 
Of course not. An ignorant mob duopoly took over years ago. You lefties seeded the 'election fraud' in 2016, and now it's 'come home' to roost in 2020.


What about Congressmen and women telling people to riot and cause damage to not just state and local governments, but even private property?

You can't 'But Trump' you're way out of this with Libertarians, or even Socialist Democrats let alone the ACLU, like me.

You're the type of person who has been throwing reporters in jail the past decade and a half as well, citing 'National Security.' You want more domestic spying as well.


Never said it did. Where did I say such?

I'm just pointing out that what some portions of the government has been engaged in since 9/11, and people like yourself actually condone, is worse. It's why we let criminals off-the-hook when there is an illegal search as well.

The government being wrong is always more wrong. To condone such is to guarantee the end of rule-of-law and freedom.

And yes, Trump is wrong. But the Media'isms and the politicians and voters who support them, are just as wrong.


'Orchestrated' is a strong word, agreed. 'Partially encouraged' and even 'Partially facilitated' is more on-point.

And it's more wrong than the criminal act. Don't get me wrong, there was, very much so, a criminal act by citizens. And Trump isn't blameless either.

But until people like yourself only want to 'vote out' only 'half' of 'the problem,' this will continue.

It's just like what I said to Republicans when it was proven that the US gov't illegally filed FISA wiretaps with fradulent information on Private Citizen Trump ... "And once Trump became President, and it was proven he was illegally spied upon as a private citizen, did he 'tear down' the FISA Courts? Nope! Not even after a FISA Judge came out and suggested they should be."

You 'blind faith' Progressives are as bad as Trump when it comes to the Constitution. Let me say that again, your condoning this is as bad as anything Trump has ever done. Until you recognize that, we're f'd as a country. You're Pro-Big Brother.
Sweet Jesus. You truly have no clue, but love to hear yourself talk. Carry on.
 
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Sweet Jesus. You truly have no clue, but love to hear yourself talk. Carry on.
No, you have no clue what the point here is.

Criminal acts even partially facilitated by government institution are still wrong, illegal, and people should be punished, but ... the government is still more wrong.

For you to condone this is to actually argue for the end of rule-of-law.
 
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No, you have no clue what the point here is.

Criminal acts even partially facilitated by government institution are still wrong, illegal, and people should be punished, but ... the government is still more wrong.

For you to condone this is to actually argue for the end of rule-of-law.
You are oblivious. You have no idea what my views are on things you spew with certainty. Back to the ignore list for you. I thought I’d try a new novel, but it wasn’t for me.
 
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Do we hold the BLM leadership accountable for everything that happens during a BLM rally?
Yep, you got him dead to rights. How about Congressmen and women that encourage destruction?

I call it all out.
 
Do we hold the BLM leadership accountable for everything that happens during a BLM rally?
What accountability are you seeking? The accountability for Trump was an attempt to remove him from office. I would expect similar accountability for a “BLM leader” who told people to do something which they later did. Sure. Sounds reasonable.
 
What accountability are you seeking? The accountability for Trump was an attempt to remove him from office. I would expect similar accountability for a “BLM leader” who told people to do something which they later did. Sure. Sounds reasonable.
How about Congressmen and women too?

What we Libertarians and a growing number of non-Progressive Democrats tire of is people like yourself only going after Trump and Republicans.

If you guys would stop, Trump wouldn't exist, and the GOP would lose the core 25% of their supporters that are most rabidly anti-Democratic party.

But you don't, so it continues.

GOP support among African-Americans and, even more so, Hispanic-Americans is actually growing.
 
What accountability are you seeking? The accountability for Trump was an attempt to remove him from office. I would expect similar accountability for a “BLM leader” who told people to do something which they later did. Sure. Sounds reasonable.
Trump never told anyone to storm the Capitol Building.
 
Trump never told anyone to storm the Capitol Building.
However ... some Congressmen and women did tell people with BLM (and more than just BLM) to do things.

That's why the Anti-Trump people are walking a slippery-slope. I'm anti-Trump, I hate him. I would never vote for him. I used to think he was a phony on his reality TV show over a decade ago.

But the Progressives calling for the end of freedom and more domestic spying have been scaring me ever since jailing Miller a decade and a half ago.

I hate the fact that I end up defending Trump, Coulter and Hannity as a result.
 
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Right wingers are an amazing example for why the scientific method and logic should be required education for multiple years.
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Get educated ignorant retardplicans
What about us non-Republicans calling you out on your anti-Freedom, pro-1984 tirades?

Especially those of us without Arts degrees, and 3x more 'Science' classes (let alone all Calculus-based and not 'simplified algebraic' based scientific methods) than you?
 
Police at all levels try to induce crimes into happening, happens all the time with drug cases, including on I was a juror on. They arranged a purchase with a local dealer, small time person and pushed and pushed until they had the Oxi sale up to 1 more pill than was needed for long term sentence. I am glad the guy is off the street, But they made him into a bigger pusher than he ever really was, or wanted to be. It wouldn't take much from the inside to take a few people and push them into a crime they normally wouldn't do. A little peer pressure goes a long ways.
 
Trump never told anyone to storm the Capitol Building.
Hey, it was your hypothetical. If BLM “leaders” are committing criminal acts by inciting violence then they should face consequences. I don’t think they are telling people to go commit specific crimes either.
 
Police at all levels try to induce crimes into happening, happens all the time with drug cases, including on I was a juror on. They arranged a purchase with a local dealer, small time person and pushed and pushed until they had the Oxi sale up to 1 more pill than was needed for long term sentence. I am glad the guy is off the street, But they made him into a bigger pusher than he ever really was, or wanted to be. It wouldn't take much from the inside to take a few people and push them into a crime they normally wouldn't do. A little peer pressure goes a long ways.
But they did that because dealing drugs is a pattern of behavior for that drug dealer and, if they pushed and crossed the line, that should be entrapment. But to infiltrate a group that has never even come close to rioting and author a plan for them to riot, that would be crossing the line.
 
But they did that because dealing drugs is a pattern of behavior for that drug dealer and, if they pushed and crossed the line, that should be entrapment. But to infiltrate a group that has never even come close to rioting and author a plan for them to riot, that would be crossing the line.
The '80s was really the start of it. The sad thing is, Biden condoned such, like most career politicians.

We, the voters, have literally condoned things too much since. And we're so partisan these days, we refuse to change.

That's a systemic issue with us, the voter, not the system. The system reflects us.

That's why I'll never be involved to ever overthrow an elected government. The only way the government will ever have a problem with me is if they come to arrest me at my home for merely welding the 1st Amendment. And I live in a very pro-2nd Amendment state where even Democrats are packing. ;)

Unfortunately there are too many people on this board advocating that, and they aren't only GOP, hardly.
 
Remember guys, it was Antifa that stormed the capital, but we don't need to investigate how the FBI was behind the capital attack.

The amount of mental gymnastics required to be a GOP supporter in 2021 is insane. These people are literally dumber than rocks.
 
I just want to remind our resident inbreds that Fox news thinks you are a moron. Fox News won a court case by 'persuasively' arguing that no 'reasonable viewer' takes Tucker Carlson seriously


A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit against Fox News after lawyers for the network argued that no "reasonable viewer" would take the network's primetime star Tucker Carlson seriously.

The network asked a judge to dismiss the case, arguing that "Carlson's statements were not statements of fact and that she failed adequately to allege actual malice."


The judge agreed with Fox's premise, adding that the network "persuasively argues" that "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statements he makes."
 
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