CBSsports' article on UCF's new beach
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??? wondering how much it is going to cost to get in there ???
Is it one of this things that if you have to ask, then you can't afford it?
Is it one of this things that if you have to ask, then you can't afford it?
The OS has a article on how much you have to pay to have access. It all comes at a loss to the number of seats and an increase in almost all ticket packages so some can have a better "game experience". BS! Just a way to make more money. If they want to improve the game experience for fans, improve the product on the field but, I guess I just a dinosaur fan who goes to watch the game, not look at infomercials on the jumbotron, and listen to piped in rock tunes.
31-9 over the past 3 seasons including a top 10 final AP ranking, top 5 draft pick, and a BCS Bowl victory isn't good enough for you?
1.) Stadiums have to compete with living room tvs.
2.) Not allowing people to drink inside is just asking them not to show up.
I would say it's a great idea, but without a beer in your hand, I don't see the point, and I'm not a big drinker.
It's on ESPN's NCAAF website now too, along with an attendance blast because "only" 30k fans showed up for the last home game this season - a blowout in the rain against winless SMU. Read the comments only if you want to hate people writing them.
They will be serving alcohol in both the East Side Club and the west club seats, Art.
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"improve the product on the field"
9 and 10 win seasons are just not good enough for some idiots.
"just a way to make more money"
EXACTLY! By making more money, they might be able to improve that product on the field that you find so terrible.
I already replied to the foolishness of his/her statement above. And we've done all of that while under some pretty serious recruiting restrictions (20% yearly scholarship loss and 50% official visit loss).
My guess is the "gb" in their user name stands for Gator Bait.
I am not sure outright beer sales at games would be a good idea. We used to drink at the Citrus Bowl, but there were a lot fewer of us and fewer students. Seems like things could get pretty rough. I guess I have mixed feelings about it now that I am an old fart and have kids that come to the games. Back in the day when a UF fan would get in our face about the programs I always had the comeback of "Oh yeah? well at least we sell beer". There was also that UCF cheer that went, "We're here, we sell beer, and we're in your face".
If the school feels that this club will bring in more money so that they can improve the product on the field then I am all for it. Just because not many people showed up for the SMU game doesn't mean that this change will lose money. These tickets and all season tickets are paid for in advance. So if the ticketholders don't show up, UCF already has their money.
I wouldn't want to sit over on the east side anyway. It will be hot as hell on those September afternoons.
I wouldn't want to sit over on the east side anyway. It will be hot as hell on those September afternoons.
The overall concept I love. Premium seating. Enhancing GameDay experience for those that might not be thrilled to sit in the 90 degree heat to watch us play teams like FIU and Tulsa, who also have some extra cash to throw around. $150 bucks a game is a little high for UCF football. Especially since drinks will most likely be "stadium priced." You're basically paying for a seat back, access $9 bud lights, and some shade.
The theme is what kills it for me. Beach Club? This is what you get when your athletic director is from Canada. Not everywhere in Florida is like Key West. If you want to go Florida theme, keep it more resort style. The tiki thing is just so out of place for Orlando and UCF football branding. Hopefully the final product does not look as tacky as the renderings. Fingers crossed.
The theme is what kills it for me. Beach Club? This is what you get when your athletic director is from Canada. Not everywhere in Florida is like Key West. If you want to go Florida theme, keep it more resort style. The tiki thing is just so out of place for Orlando and UCF football branding. Hopefully the final product does not look as tacky as the renderings. Fingers crossed.
I'm shocked at the amount of pub that this story is getting. It's not thaaat big of a deal, yet it's on the front page of espn.com.
I love the idea of premium seating with access to alcohol and better food. However I really hope they aren't married to the cheesy theme as shown in the renderings. The branding of the "beach" looks cheap and it might be an eye sore. For $900 they need to make it nicer and less generic.
Since there are so many empty seats why not just make more premium seating. Screw $99 season tickets, I would pay 3-4x that much for some premium seating.
I thought I read they are adding 50 additional premium seats on the west side. We need to add a bunch more permanent seats. It would definitely hide the metal look.
I agree. We have far too many fair weather fans who only show up for big name opponents and when the weather is perfect. Also the ones who tailgate and then never enter the stadium. I would to expand the Roth Tower to run from endzone to endzone in order to offer more luxury boxes & premium seating, then add additional "premium seating" on the East side as well (could make the ESC wider or add separate individual boxes), update the scoreboard drastically and then expand the stadium around these features as the fan base grows. Of course this takes money and it's hard to raise funds when the average age of your alumni base is 32....
Yes, installing colored seat backs to the entire stadium would be awesome and drastically change the look on TV.
That being said, the East Side needs help. The west side always looks great on game day but the TV cameras never show it, thus the stadium always looks more empty than it really is, frustrating.
This post was edited on 1/27 8:22 AM by AQKnightro
That being said, the East Side needs help. The west side always looks great on game day but the TV cameras never show it, thus the stadium always looks more empty than it really is, frustrating.
This post was edited on 1/27 8:22 AM by AQKnightro
When they get around to expanding the tower they'll likely make club seating stretch from goal line to goal line on the West side.
I'm not opposed to the idea of a premium seating area or party deck on the east side, as the background really needs something on tv broadcasts to "pop." BHNS can really look plain to the viewer, especially when attendance is lighter and aluminum bleechers show through.
That being said, I'm completely against how the "ESC" is being implemented (as apparantly a lot of other fans do based on comments on FB).
First, the theme. As others have stated, the beach/surfer theme has nothing to do with the school, team or city. A beach/tiki theme in an open seating area at a stadium isn't original, nor does it reinforce the brand of the "UCF Knights." Either go all black and gold (something classy for the well-heeled donors that will be buying memberships) or do something medieval to support the "Knights" team name and mascot. You contract Nassal, a well-known name in theme park design and construction, to build this thing and don't even bother to tap their expertise in recreating medieval/gothic architecture and motifs. A castle-looking structure would look awesome on tv, be theme-appropriate and would be far more unique.
Second is branding. We keep hearing over and over the past couple years: "We're UCF, not the University of Central Florida." Consider these two quotes from the OS writeup:
Added Zack Lassiter, UCF senior associate athletic director for external operations: "The whole idea was we're in Central Florida and we want everyone to know where we are. It's November and we're wearing shorts and flip flops and it'd be great to showcase our community, and so the idea came up to do some kind of premium experience on the east side."
"We are continuing to elevate the UCF brand nationally through our partnership with ESPN and other television partners. The Florida-themed ESC gives us an opportunity to reinforce our location, which I believe is a major asset," Stansbury said. "The ESC will provide a window into the UCF/Central Florida culture and personality to potential students, recruits, fans, friends and supporters."
So, the media and fans aren't supposed to call the team "Central Florida" (because of the directional school stigma) but now we're drawing attention to the location (which in of itself is pretty rediculous as there are no beaches in Orlando, not everyone here wears flip flops or surfs and it does get cold here)? This to me just causes brand confusion; we might as well just change back to the Citronauts and embrace our Florida location and "culture."
Third, while this is only displacing roughly 1000-1200 people, those season ticket holders likely have been boosters since at least 2007 due to their location. It seems as if they're going to burn a lot of built-up goodwill with these loyal fans just to bring in more corporate clients, and I've seen several people on social media impacted by this that have stated they will not renew. I don't blame them, as none of the areas they will be moved to will be comparable to the seats and pricing tier they lost.
Finally, looking at the design mockups, it appears as if the "exclusive access" to the ESC is the existing handicapped access elevator on the east side. Unless UCF is building an additional elevator, that means handicapped ticket holders on the east side will be dropped off by the shuttles, have to make their way to the opposite side of the stadium and take the Roth Tower elevator up, only to have to double all the way back to get to their seats. I can't imagine the family that's had season tickets in the handicapped area in our section for the past 5 seasons or so will be too thrilled about this. Could this be a possible ADA violation? Has UCF thought about the implications to their handicapped fans? Do they even care?
This post was edited on 1/27 10:36 AM by tribbleorlfl
That being said, I'm completely against how the "ESC" is being implemented (as apparantly a lot of other fans do based on comments on FB).
First, the theme. As others have stated, the beach/surfer theme has nothing to do with the school, team or city. A beach/tiki theme in an open seating area at a stadium isn't original, nor does it reinforce the brand of the "UCF Knights." Either go all black and gold (something classy for the well-heeled donors that will be buying memberships) or do something medieval to support the "Knights" team name and mascot. You contract Nassal, a well-known name in theme park design and construction, to build this thing and don't even bother to tap their expertise in recreating medieval/gothic architecture and motifs. A castle-looking structure would look awesome on tv, be theme-appropriate and would be far more unique.
Second is branding. We keep hearing over and over the past couple years: "We're UCF, not the University of Central Florida." Consider these two quotes from the OS writeup:
Added Zack Lassiter, UCF senior associate athletic director for external operations: "The whole idea was we're in Central Florida and we want everyone to know where we are. It's November and we're wearing shorts and flip flops and it'd be great to showcase our community, and so the idea came up to do some kind of premium experience on the east side."
"We are continuing to elevate the UCF brand nationally through our partnership with ESPN and other television partners. The Florida-themed ESC gives us an opportunity to reinforce our location, which I believe is a major asset," Stansbury said. "The ESC will provide a window into the UCF/Central Florida culture and personality to potential students, recruits, fans, friends and supporters."
So, the media and fans aren't supposed to call the team "Central Florida" (because of the directional school stigma) but now we're drawing attention to the location (which in of itself is pretty rediculous as there are no beaches in Orlando, not everyone here wears flip flops or surfs and it does get cold here)? This to me just causes brand confusion; we might as well just change back to the Citronauts and embrace our Florida location and "culture."
Third, while this is only displacing roughly 1000-1200 people, those season ticket holders likely have been boosters since at least 2007 due to their location. It seems as if they're going to burn a lot of built-up goodwill with these loyal fans just to bring in more corporate clients, and I've seen several people on social media impacted by this that have stated they will not renew. I don't blame them, as none of the areas they will be moved to will be comparable to the seats and pricing tier they lost.
Finally, looking at the design mockups, it appears as if the "exclusive access" to the ESC is the existing handicapped access elevator on the east side. Unless UCF is building an additional elevator, that means handicapped ticket holders on the east side will be dropped off by the shuttles, have to make their way to the opposite side of the stadium and take the Roth Tower elevator up, only to have to double all the way back to get to their seats. I can't imagine the family that's had season tickets in the handicapped area in our section for the past 5 seasons or so will be too thrilled about this. Could this be a possible ADA violation? Has UCF thought about the implications to their handicapped fans? Do they even care?
This post was edited on 1/27 10:36 AM by tribbleorlfl
I wouldn't mind if they reduced capacity to 30,000 and took those 15,000 seats and made them premium area. I agree expand Roth tower. This not only adds more premium areas but also blocks the sun which can be brutal. If we have a big name opponent make the cheap seat people pack it in or give way less student tickets.
Yes...and yes.
If handicap access impact you and/or your season tix group, please contact Zach as he can fill you in with facts.
Also, I don't see anyone really talking about the upcoming price increases (of up to 20%) on season tickets. Also from the OS article:
Meanwhile, season ticket prices for the Knights' upcoming football season will also increase anywhere from one to 20 percent in select stadium seating areas that are popular and near capacity. There are several sections of the stadium where season ticket prices won't be raised.
Lassiter said those with sideline seats are most likely to see the price increases.
UCF officials said "it's unclear how many fans will be impacted by the 20 percent increase," but fans who already donate beyond the minimum Golden Knights Club donation required with most season tickets are likely to see a lower price increase.
It will be UCF's first ticket price increase since the stadium opened eight years ago and school officials said it remains in line with the Knights' peer schools.
"I think we've made a pretty good case over the last few years that our program is significantly better than it was in 2007. We've won championships and I think we're doing everything off the field right," Lassiter said. "I think we've made a good case that it's worth the investment."
Meanwhile, season ticket prices for the Knights' upcoming football season will also increase anywhere from one to 20 percent in select stadium seating areas that are popular and near capacity. There are several sections of the stadium where season ticket prices won't be raised.
Lassiter said those with sideline seats are most likely to see the price increases.
UCF officials said "it's unclear how many fans will be impacted by the 20 percent increase," but fans who already donate beyond the minimum Golden Knights Club donation required with most season tickets are likely to see a lower price increase.
It will be UCF's first ticket price increase since the stadium opened eight years ago and school officials said it remains in line with the Knights' peer schools.
"I think we've made a pretty good case over the last few years that our program is significantly better than it was in 2007. We've won championships and I think we're doing everything off the field right," Lassiter said. "I think we've made a good case that it's worth the investment."
Join the Dungeon.
From a thread on this topic...example:
Those that paid the minimum for a $500 Booster Section...increase to $750 comes out to $4.41 per week, less than the cost of one latte.
Good news for UCF is many fans pay MORE than the minimum required...plus most will pay the increase, especially in high desired sections (i.e. Westside, especially between the 15 yard lines), where any openings in the past were almost immediately gobbled up.
And for those that can't pay the increase...good news is that even corner/end zone seats at BHNS provide pretty good sight lines...so there will be plenty of options for those fans to choose from too.
I think you are way over reacting.
For one thing, if the beach theme (which fits Florida JUST FINE) turns turns out not so well, the theme could easily be changed in the future. The structural changes are what is driving most of the cost.
Second, as a lot of people who had to move have already posted on here, the moves may not be as drastic as people think. If someone has to move over 10-20 seats, or up or down 5 - 10 rows, or a combination of both, it should not be that big of a deal. The only significant moves would be people who were in 228 since that entire section will now be club seating.
Third, you are assuming that everyone who is being impacted will be unhappy and/or complain. Whiners and complainers like to make a big deal labout things, but many people who are impacted are just fine with the changes.
Fourth, everyone wants UCF to be competitive. Well, that takes money. UCF's ticket prices and donation requqirements are less than many other teams in our conference and many other G5 teams.
Fifth, you make it sound like only "Corporate Clients" will be using the new club seating. Corporate Clients, for the most part, have suites or club seats on the west side of the stadium. The east side club will appeal to UCF fans who can't afford or cannot get into (because they are sold out) suites or club seats on the west side.
For one thing, if the beach theme (which fits Florida JUST FINE) turns turns out not so well, the theme could easily be changed in the future. The structural changes are what is driving most of the cost.
Second, as a lot of people who had to move have already posted on here, the moves may not be as drastic as people think. If someone has to move over 10-20 seats, or up or down 5 - 10 rows, or a combination of both, it should not be that big of a deal. The only significant moves would be people who were in 228 since that entire section will now be club seating.
Third, you are assuming that everyone who is being impacted will be unhappy and/or complain. Whiners and complainers like to make a big deal labout things, but many people who are impacted are just fine with the changes.
Fourth, everyone wants UCF to be competitive. Well, that takes money. UCF's ticket prices and donation requqirements are less than many other teams in our conference and many other G5 teams.
Fifth, you make it sound like only "Corporate Clients" will be using the new club seating. Corporate Clients, for the most part, have suites or club seats on the west side of the stadium. The east side club will appeal to UCF fans who can't afford or cannot get into (because they are sold out) suites or club seats on the west side.
This is spot on!
I have been a season ticket holder on the West Side for 7 years now. I started with 2 seats and now stand at 8. I will welcome anything that can make the East Side look better. It gets people talking about UCF and it looks neat.
I question how many "complainers" are actual season ticket holders. Reducing the size of the stadium by 2k seats will not impact anyone. I don't think we have sold out the stadium since the South Carolina game, the Bethune Cookman game might have been close. The East Side needs help and it will play great on TV.
We never have problems selling out the West Side and now that they made the changes with the student section "first come first serve" it looks great and full.
Being competitive does take money and I will happily to pay an extra 10-20% That is an extra $200-$400 a year for me. Given that I have always paid into the extra 110% campaign it will really not be that much. Like many posters have stated, a 20% increase for the "cheap" seats is only $20 extra dollars a year. If that gives you heartburn or sends you over the edge financially, then you probably should take a financial management class because you have other financial issues that need to be addressed.
Charge On and support your program like the "Big" programs do.
This post was edited on 1/27 12:00 PM by AQKnightro
This post was edited on 1/27 10:01 AM by AQKnightro
I have been a season ticket holder on the West Side for 7 years now. I started with 2 seats and now stand at 8. I will welcome anything that can make the East Side look better. It gets people talking about UCF and it looks neat.
I question how many "complainers" are actual season ticket holders. Reducing the size of the stadium by 2k seats will not impact anyone. I don't think we have sold out the stadium since the South Carolina game, the Bethune Cookman game might have been close. The East Side needs help and it will play great on TV.
We never have problems selling out the West Side and now that they made the changes with the student section "first come first serve" it looks great and full.
Being competitive does take money and I will happily to pay an extra 10-20% That is an extra $200-$400 a year for me. Given that I have always paid into the extra 110% campaign it will really not be that much. Like many posters have stated, a 20% increase for the "cheap" seats is only $20 extra dollars a year. If that gives you heartburn or sends you over the edge financially, then you probably should take a financial management class because you have other financial issues that need to be addressed.
Charge On and support your program like the "Big" programs do.
This post was edited on 1/27 12:00 PM by AQKnightro
This post was edited on 1/27 10:01 AM by AQKnightro
It does, and I contacted my rep, and he is "looking into it". So it sounds like they don't have a firm plan yet, or if they do, it didn't get out to the reps contacting those of us being relocated.
So...only the season ticket holders for the beach club will be allowed in this area? What about single game tickets?
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