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CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign

There is little to no doubt Wuhan shots reduce hospital visits and deaths. There also is little to no doubt that vaccinated people spread Wuhan flu as much as the non vaccinated.
 
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goodknightfl said:
There is little to no doubt Wuhan shots reduce hospital visits and deaths. There also is little to no doubt that vaccinated people spread Wuhan flu as much as the non vaccinated.
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WTF? If I want advice about pandemics from a pool cleaner, I’ll ask someone much more intelligent than you

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Boston.Knight said:
The vaccines are failing wholesale at this point.

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96.4% of the above 65 population is vaccinated according to the CDC. So you have 3.6% of the above 65 population making up 40% of hospitalizations. In case you are bad at math that is more than 10 times the hospitalization rate for unvaccinated. And the death rate is even higher.

also the tweeter doesn’t make any sense. What does the majority or Medicare patients being 60% vaccinated mean?
 
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hemightbejeremy said:
96.4% of the above 65 population is vaccinated according to the CDC. So you have 3.6% of the above 65 population making up 40% of hospitalizations. In case you are bad at math that is more than 10 times the hospitalization rate for unvaccinated. And the death rate is even higher.

also the tweeter doesn’t make any sense. What does the majority or Medicare patients being 60% vaccinated mean?
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What's the time frame for that?
 
Crazyhole said:
What's the time frame for that?
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Timeframe for what? I’m assuming the 60% number is bullshit. But just taking it at face value the fact is the vast majority of 65+ are vaccinated. So 40% of hospitalizations being unvaccinated would indicate that the vaccine is a good preventative for hospitalization and a better preventative for death from Covid.
 
hemightbejeremy said:
Timeframe for what? I’m assuming the 60% number is bullshit. But just taking it at face value the fact is the vast majority of 65+ are vaccinated. So 40% of hospitalizations being unvaccinated would indicate that the vaccine is a good preventative for hospitalization and a better preventative for death from Covid.
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Huh. So it's almost like there's a tiny risk of being hospitalized in the age group that is most likely to suffer from severe covid symptoms now that we have 96.4% of them vaccinated.
 
Crazyhole said:
Huh. So it's almost like there's a tiny risk of being hospitalized in the age group that is most likely to suffer from severe covid symptoms now that we have 96.4% of them vaccinated.
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Even if you want to believe that 60% of over 65 hospitalizations are vaccinated, it doesn’t indicate the vaccine is ineffective. It may be indicative of an ineffective vaccine if say 40% of the above 65 population was still unvaccinated and they were making up 40% of the hospitalizations. In fact this is the mathematical result you would expect of a placebo were administered. In the real world however, the percentage above 65 that remain unvaccinated for Covid is much much lower than 40%. Yet they are still making up 40% of the hospitalizations. Indicating the vaccine is effective at preventing hospitalization.
 
hemightbejeremy said:
Even if you want to believe that 60% of over 65 hospitalizations are vaccinated, it doesn’t indicate the vaccine is ineffective. It may be indicative of an ineffective vaccine if say 40% of the above 65 population was still unvaccinated and they were making up 40% of the hospitalizations. In fact this is the mathematical result you would expect of a placebo were administered. In the real world however, the percentage above 65 that remain unvaccinated for Covid is much much lower than 40%. Yet they are still making up 40% of the hospitalizations. Indicating the vaccine is effective at preventing hospitalization.
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Still not seeing it?

The people most likely to die, now aren't. So what's the deal with pushing the vaccines even harder now and threatening the loss of someone's job if they refuse? We aren't likely to overrun the hospitals, but YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR ELSE! Fire hundreds of thousands of people that society relies on, from cops to nurses to semi drivers for what? These are the people we called "essential workers" less than a year ago and now a vaccine is more important than they are?

There's no math and no science behind any of the politics anymore. But for some reason the political pressure has gotten stronger. What are they really working for?
 
Crazyhole said:
Still not seeing it?

The people most likely to die, now aren't. So what's the deal with pushing the vaccines even harder now and threatening the loss of someone's job if they refuse? We aren't likely to overrun the hospitals, but YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR ELSE! Fire hundreds of thousands of people that society relies on, from cops to nurses to semi drivers for what? These are the people we called "essential workers" less than a year ago and now a vaccine is more important than they are?

There's no math and no science behind any of the politics anymore. But for some reason the political pressure has gotten stronger. What are they really working for?
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hemightbejeremy said:
96.4% of the above 65 population is vaccinated according to the CDC. So you have 3.6% of the above 65 population making up 40% of hospitalizations. In case you are bad at math that is more than 10 times the hospitalization rate for unvaccinated. And the death rate is even higher.

also the tweeter doesn’t make any sense. What does the majority or Medicare patients being 60% vaccinated mean?
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Again, you are arguing with someone who has at best a 2nd grade level comprehension of math.

@Boston.Knight I'm still waiting for your response on why people should trust you and twitter with their lives, when you've been so incredibly wrong about money.

Your gold is completely flat over the last decade, when anyone with a brain invested in the S&P and quadrupled their money.

You honestly need professional mental help.
 
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Crazyhole said:
Still not seeing it?

The people most likely to die, now aren't. So what's the deal with pushing the vaccines even harder now and threatening the loss of someone's job if they refuse? We aren't likely to overrun the hospitals, but YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR ELSE! Fire hundreds of thousands of people that society relies on, from cops to nurses to semi drivers for what? These are the people we called "essential workers" less than a year ago and now a vaccine is more important than they are?

There's no math and no science behind any of the politics anymore. But for some reason the political pressure has gotten stronger. What are they really working for?
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Politics and mandates aside, the vaccine prevents hospitalizations. Which is all I said. I don’t care one way or the other about a mandate since I got the vaccine.
 
hemightbejeremy said:
Politics and mandates aside, the vaccine prevents hospitalizations. Which is all I said. I don’t care one way or the other about a mandate since I got the vaccine.
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You got vaccinated and that's fine. It really isn't that big of a deal because the vaccines are essentially irrelevant for 99% of people. Somehow people have lost the ability to communicate with each other based on whether they are vaxxed or not which is totally retarded and that is the real problem.
 
In all honesty, this vaccine or no vaccine argument is getting ridiculous. And, you shouldn't trust your doctor.

Just the other day I was asking my doctor about the pros and cons of taking the COVID vaccine, and this is, exactly, what he told me:

- I don't know dude. Just bend over; I'm a proctologist not an immunologist!!!!!
 
Boston.Knight said:
Are you serious? Do you think they are going to hold a press conference on this?
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The same CDC that claims all sorts of things on flu vaccine efficacy ...

And then had to do a roll-up in 2020 about 2016-2019 only being actually 16-25%, hidden deep on their site.

Nah, it never happens. The CDC always promotes the final truth ... especially when it comes out years later ... NOT. ;)

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There's really only one man in the US I trust with the appropriate use of the term 'hope' ...

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This is getting downright ****ing comical at this point.
 
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@Boston.Knight still waiting on you to admit you were wrong on telling people to buy gold for the last decade.


BK is the perfect example of a brainwashed cult member; he is too godamn stupid to comprehend just how stupid he is. It's a vicious catch-22.
 
NinjaKnight said:
@Boston.Knight still waiting on you to admit you were wrong on telling people to buy gold for the last decade.


BK is the perfect example of a brainwashed cult member; he is too godamn stupid to comprehend just how stupid he is. It's a vicious catch-22.
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And this has what to do with the topic exactly?

Oh thats right. You keep getting proven wrong so it's time to change the subject.
 


Huh. So we won't know if the vaccines are safe until we test them on willing lab rats. That doesn't invoke a lot of confidence.
 
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    CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign​

    Huh. So we won't know if the vaccines are safe until we test them on willing lab rats. That doesn't invoke a lot of confidence.
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    Woke CNN liberals now attacking Fauci/NIH​

    Good old CNN.
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    CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign​

    And this has what to do with the topic exactly? Oh thats right. You keep getting proven wrong so it's time to change the subject.
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    I dont think they are related
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    It's kind of hilarious that the guy that played "animal mother" is talking about gun safety. Then again, the world is a weird place.
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    Rittenhouse trial is over before it begins​

    What's a little bit of good natured arson amongst friends?
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    Rittenhouse trial is over before it begins​

    Can't call them victims, you can call them rioters, looters, and arsonists. Can't have a crime without a victim.
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    Lol. No, but similar to one of them. So it's kind of odd that her original statement was that it was a discharged casing that hit the director of photography, but later it was revealed that the gun is a revolver. That's a huge red flag IMO.
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    That chick is messed up and obviously needs to be charged.
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    CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign​

    You got vaccinated and that's fine. It really isn't that big of a deal because the vaccines are essentially irrelevant for 99% of people. Somehow people have lost the ability to communicate with each other based on whether they are vaxxed or not which is totally retarded and that is the real...
 
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    CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign​

    Huh. So we won't know if the vaccines are safe until we test them on willing lab rats. That doesn't invoke a lot of confidence.
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    Woke CNN liberals now attacking Fauci/NIH​

    Good old CNN.
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    CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign​

    And this has what to do with the topic exactly? Oh thats right. You keep getting proven wrong so it's time to change the subject.
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    I dont think they are related
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    It's kind of hilarious that the guy that played "animal mother" is talking about gun safety. Then again, the world is a weird place.
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    Rittenhouse trial is over before it begins​

    What's a little bit of good natured arson amongst friends?
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    Rittenhouse trial is over before it begins​

    Can't call them victims, you can call them rioters, looters, and arsonists. Can't have a crime without a victim.
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    Lol. No, but similar to one of them. So it's kind of odd that her original statement was that it was a discharged casing that hit the director of photography, but later it was revealed that the gun is a revolver. That's a huge red flag IMO.
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    Anti-gun activist and blowhard Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film director​

    That chick is messed up and obviously needs to be charged.
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    CDC starts walkback of 99.5% propaganda campaign​

    You got vaccinated and that's fine. It really isn't that big of a deal because the vaccines are essentially irrelevant for 99% of people. Somehow people have lost the ability to communicate with each other based on whether they are vaxxed or not which is totally retarded and that is the real...
 
Crazyhole said:
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Eh. Let the children suffer the consequences if something goes wrong.
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Too many of the panel are on the take, and their pharma overlords told them good to go. The flip side is they set the bar pretty high. Even one death makes it negative VE, and MSM may actually do their job and report vaccine deaths this time.

FDA did forecast myocarditis in their 5-11 models and were pretty transparent about that. Not sure the number. Hundreds to thousands maybe? Also four in the 5-11 trial had serious adverse events that they brushed off as 'unrelated' :rolleyes: This went unreported by MSM

 
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Immunocompromised may need a fourth Covid-19 shot, CDC says | CNN

People with health conditions that make them moderately or severely immunocompromised may get a fourth mRNA Covid-19 shot, according to updated CDC guidelines.
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It's amazing how mRNA technology is keeping us healthy already. Only need 4 shots per year, and they are all free!
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Boston.Knight said:
Too many of the panel are on the take, and their pharma overlords told them good to go. The flip side is they set the bar pretty high. Even one death makes it negative VE, and MSM may actually do their job and report vaccine deaths this time.

FDA did forecast myocarditis in their 5-11 models and were pretty transparent about that. Not sure the number. Hundreds to thousands maybe? Also four in the 5-11 trial had serious adverse events that they brushed off as 'unrelated' :rolleyes: This went unreported by MSM

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Crazyhole said:
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That's why the US FDA was previously against having any vote at all, with not only the extraordinary low data provided, but the fact that the placebo is 100% effective at stopping anything but minor disease. That's still the case too.

The low numbers of participants had been continually questioned as causing a marging of error that just not viable. The safety data is non-existant too.

But the FDA now isn't the same FDA just 3 months ago. They have been under maximum pressure from just not the Mass Media, but even the US CDC. So, alas ... this is the new FDA. Get used to it.

It's a brave, new, data-free world. It's not about the science, statistics let alone risk management. It's about edicts and politicking.

I just don't know what happens when this doesn't accomplish what they intend, and the 5th and 6th waves hit. If we're lucky, we have limited mututations, and SARS-CoV-2 b.1.617.2 (Delta) remains predominant.

In either case ...
  • If b.1.617.2 stays predominant, they'll credit the Boosters and vaccinating Kids
  • If b.1.617.2 gives way or spread isn't addressed at all, they'll blame the anti-vaxxers
Not looking forward to the future in either case, because it's going to justify yet more authoritarian control.
 
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At least voices are being heard on both sides of the argument. You have a disease that is somewhere between the flu and common cold, as far as how it effects kids, 99.9+% survival rates and you are going to give them a shot that may cause heart problems. We can argue over whether or not it should be available for kids, But have no doubts the Vaxer crowd will be pushing required shots very quickly. If I have a kid with heart, lung, cancer, or auto immune issues I likely will give that kid the shot, as he is in the 5% group, that is more likely to have serious problems with Fauci's/Wuhan Flu.

We know that people who are vaccinated pass Fauci/Wuhan Flu as easily as those without the shot. Possibly even more as they can carry heavier loads of the virus without getting as sick. (The reason for the shot)
There is no logical argument that these Fauci/Wuhan shots are going to slow or stop the disease, so stop that propaganda campaign and tell the truth that these shots are to reduce deaths, and hospitalization rates.
 
DaShuckster said:
We know? Let me guess, some quack on Twitter told you. :)

MSN

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https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/com...-reinfections-versus-breakthrough-infections/

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/312637

Natural Immunity seems to be better than vaccine immunity, those who have had covid and the shots likely have it best.

Let me guess, you still believe what Fauci and the CDC are telling you. let me guess, you still believe this Fauci/CDC funded virus happened naturally by a bat that doesn't live within 600 miles of Wuhan taking a road trip an joining in a meal as bat soup. Fauci and the CDC lied and millions died.
 
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DaShuckster said:
We know? Let me guess, some quack on Twitter told you. :)

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Another useful idiot caught in a web of lies from CDC. Congratulations, you are in good company with crazy mike, 85, and the other woke libs in the dungeon.

Useful idiots like yourself lap it up. Only to see it get debunked later making you look foolish time after time. This is no exception

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Boston.Knight said:
Another useful idiot caught in a web of lies from CDC. Congratulations, you are in good company with crazy mike, 85, and the other woke libs in the dungeon.

Useful idiots like yourself lap it up. Only to see it get debunked later making you look foolish time after time. This is no exception

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The CDC hits a new low

(I didn’t think it was possible either.) But yesterday the Centers for Disease Control, America’s not-at-all-politicized public health agency, r…
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Those are pretty small numbers so it's unlikely to have been representative of anything regardless, but it does look like their 5x number is blatant lie.

Speaking of which, I was talking with a guy that is kind of a savant when it comes to statistical analysis a few days ago and asked him about the 5-11 age group thing. When you start out with 99.95% being essentially excluded (they are the control group because they don't die from it anyway), how many total people would you have to have in the vaccinated group to see if it made any difference. He said it would have to be in the hundreds of thousands to move the needle at all. That kind of explains some of the comments from the FDA last week about how we won't know until we just go with it. That tells me that this is all about profit.
 
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