CFP selection committee chairman Kirby Hocutt said of UCF

[ucffan642]

"A lot of comments about how impressed we continue to be with Central Florida on the offensive side of the ball. They are extremely talented at the skill positions. We spent considerable time talking about their defensive performance."

"The selection committee had questions to, ‘Are they as balanced of a team as some others ranked just above them?’ We analyzed their schedule. Have they really been tested on the defensive side of the ball this year and if so, by who?"

“Based on that conversation, we ranked them on that 14th spot this week. A team that continues to impress the selection committee particularly on the offensive side of the ball. We look forward to watching them this coming weekend.”

 

[SublimeKnight]

Then puts OK at #3

 

[WhiteandSlatonWVU]

Ever week they have some lame excuse to hold us back. Forget them go out and win!

 

[SublimeKnight]

Then puts OK at #3

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa

OK is even more "unbalanced" than UCF. UCF is #2/#66 offense/defense
OK is #1/#100 offense/defense

 

[muckdawg24]

It's like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher. #Nonsense

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Put us on the Texas Tech schedule, Big Shot. Let's see what you think of us then.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Complete and utter bullshit. UCF has played 3 teams in the top 12 in the country in total offense, more than any other team. The held the #5 team to essentially 7 points. They held the #12 team to 17 points. They had a bad game against the #8 team. They have played 10 consecutive weeks with no bye.

 

[ThreeDogKnight]

"We look forward to watching them this coming weekend.”

Bullshit.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

"We look forward to watching them this coming weekend.”

Are you going to watch them live or a condensed version on youtube again? Jackhole.

 

[ThreeDogKnight]

"The selection committee had questions to, ‘Are they as balanced of a team as some others ranked just above them?’ We analyzed their schedule. Have they really been tested on the defensive side of the ball this year and if so, by who?"

Bunch of lying twats. I just looked, and there are four AAC teams in the top 12 in Total Offense this year: Memphis, UCF, usf, and SMU.

Next week, they'll cite biorhythms.

 

[CorporateRobot]

Dissing the UCF Defense! Throwing down the gauntlet!

 

[cnsaguy]

Are you going to watch them live or a condensed version on youtube again? Jackhole.

Sportscenter highlights, probably.

 

[tribbleorlfl]

Huh, I thought the Husker trolls were here to "talk football." Amazing how they're actually only participating in the Frost threads and conspicuously absent from the threads like these.

 

[UCFSig]

The Memphis game wasn't a "test this year"? Memphis just hung 70 on East Carolina - 70. Hocutt would debate the existence of air.

 

[ltophoj21]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa

OK is even more "unbalanced" than UCF. UCF is #2/#66 offense/defense
OK is #1/#100 offense/defense

While that is true, look at the competition OU has played against on the offensive side of the football.

 

[ltophoj21]

Huh, I thought the Husker trolls were here to "talk football." Amazing how they're actually only participating in the Frost threads and conspicuously absent from the threads like these.

I'm here, thanks.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Considering we gave up 30+ point just twice all year and Oklahoma gave up 30+ points FIVE times(including Baylor), I'm thinking his definition of "considerable time" and everyone else's are very different.

 

[KnightMagic08]

Yeah I call BS on that, they are just waiting/hoping we lose one so they can say we told you so

 

[knight_tracker]

"A lot of comments about how impressed we continue to be with Central Florida on the offensive side of the ball. They are extremely talented at the skill positions. We spent considerable time talking about their defensive performance."

"The selection committee had questions to, ‘Are they as balanced of a team as some others ranked just above them?’ We analyzed their schedule. Have they really been tested on the defensive side of the ball this year and if so, by who?"

“Based on that conversation, we ranked them on that 14th spot this week. A team that continues to impress the selection committee particularly on the offensive side of the ball. We look forward to watching them this coming weekend.”

(Speculative CFP conversation) It was probably more like this. We need to keep UFC out of the top 10 until after the bowl games. But they just won a big game against USF on ABC. OK we will move them up one spot!

 

[ThreeDogKnight]

While that is true, look at the competition OU has played against on the offensive side of the football.

I don't even know where to begin...

 

[SublimeKnight]

While that is true, look at the competition OU has played against on the offensive side of the football.

S&p takes that into the equation, but quantitatively not based on brand bias.

 

[ltophoj21]

I don't even know where to begin...

Yes UCF has played some good offensive teams, but do you think the AAC is a harder conference than the big 12? UCF should be higher in the rankings I completely agree. They should be ahead of Stanford for sure, but not ahead of a One loss OU, who has a big win against Ohio State on the road at night.

 

[ThreeDogKnight]

Yes UCF has played some good offensive teams, but do you think the AAC is a harder conference than the big 12? UCF should be higher in the rankings I completely agree. They should be ahead of Stanford for sure, but not ahead of a One loss OU, who has a big win against Ohio State on the road at night.

No one knows, and that's the point. Everyone says this, knowing they would never have to prove it on the field.

 

[knight_tracker]

Yes UCF has played some good offensive teams, but do you think the AAC is a harder conference than the big 12? UCF should be higher in the rankings I completely agree. They should be ahead of Stanford for sure, but not ahead of a One loss OU, who has a big win against Ohio State on the road at night.

That could be debated since UCF beat Baylor the top Big 12 team a few years ago. Just saying

 

[Clevinger]

You can’t fully declare a rightful national champion when there is an undefeated team that wasn’t included.

 

[GOBLUEDAVID]

"A lot of comments about how impressed we continue to be with Central Florida on the offensive side of the ball. They are extremely talented at the skill positions. We spent considerable time talking about their defensive performance."

"The selection committee had questions to, ‘Are they as balanced of a team as some others ranked just above them?’ We analyzed their schedule. Have they really been tested on the defensive side of the ball this year and if so, by who?"

“Based on that conversation, we ranked them on that 14th spot this week. A team that continues to impress the selection committee particularly on the offensive side of the ball. We look forward to watching them this coming weekend.”

...wait....what?

.....what a bunch of doublespeak nonsense......

 

[BigRedRhino]

A G5 team being the in playoffs would be great for college football. I would think that the national media would love being able to spend time discussing the "Cinderella Story" each year like they do in the basketball tourney. There would be two possible outcomes and both would be positive for College Football AND the national media.

Outcome #1 - G5 teams wins the national championship, wins 1 game, or is very competitive in their semi-final.
1) This will give the media an opportunity to create legitimate hype around games like UCF vs Georgia Tech, Memphis vs UCLA, etc. So a more captive national audience earlier in the year.
2) It will create conversation about who will be the "Cinderella" each year. Casual fans will be tune in more because they will be interested in hooking their wagon to the "underdog" much like they do in college basketball.
3) P5 teams will be more likely to schedule home-and-home games as they winning these games will be perceived as a "quality win".
4) It eliminates the constant national media only talking about the SEC and how good Bama is. Hearing about Bama/OSU for 2 hours every Gameday is only fun if you're a Bama/OSU fan.
5) Good coaches will know that they can win a Ntl Championship at a G5 school and will give pause before taking a new job if they don't think there is a "glass ceiling"

Outcome #2 - G5 looks great in conference play then gets destroyed in the playoff.
1) This gives G5 teams an opportunity to know where they are compared to the top of the P5 and what they will have to do with their program to get to that level.
2) This will force legit G5 programs to schedule more P5 teams OOC. Much like Houston was able to do last year, Oklahoma early in the year and Louisville later in the year. Once again, better football games for casual fans to watch.

The best way to accomplish this is to move the playoff to 8 teams. 5 Automatic bids for P5 conference champs, 3 at large. The committee will find it much easier to put a G5 team in the playoffs if they feel they have 7 spots to capture the "best 7" from the P5.

That being said, i'm pulling for your team. I've followed UCF the past 2 years because of Scott Frost and hope nothing but the best for your team. The NU trolls that have come around this board are not indicative of the majority of NU fans. Good luck this week and hoping for your continued success regardless of what happens with the coaching situation.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Yes UCF has played some good offensive teams, but do you think the AAC is a harder conference than the big 12? UCF should be higher in the rankings I completely agree. They should be ahead of Stanford for sure, but not ahead of a One loss OU, who has a big win against Ohio State on the road at night.

The question was about UCF's defense (which leads the conference) and Oklahoma was brought up as giving up 30+ points to a hapless baylor squad, meanwhile UCF held the #5 offense in the country to 7 points and the #12 offense in the country to 17 points on the road. They are picking a single game against USF (#8 offense) as evidence of why UCF isn't ranked higher, throwing out the fact that it was a rivalry game, UCF had a specific gameplan to make Flowers throw and he had the best passing effort of his career, and UCF was playing their 10th game in 10 weeks. All this while ignoring that the offensive/defensive discrepancy doesn't seem to apply when they are ranking Oklahoma.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

A G5 team being the in playoffs would be great for college football. I would think that the national media would love being able to spend time discussing the "Cinderella Story" each year like they do in the basketball tourney. There would be two possible outcomes and both would be positive for College Football AND the national media.

Outcome #1 - G5 teams wins the national championship, wins 1 game, or is very competitive in their semi-final.
1) This will give the media an opportunity to create legitimate hype around games like UCF vs Georgia Tech, Memphis vs UCLA, etc. So a more captive national audience earlier in the year.
2) It will create conversation about who will be the "Cinderella" each year. Casual fans will be tune in more because they will be interested in hooking their wagon to the "underdog" much like they do in college basketball.
3) P5 teams will be more likely to schedule home-and-home games as they winning these games will be perceived as a "quality win".
4) It eliminates the constant national media only talking about the SEC and how good Bama is. Hearing about Bama/OSU for 2 hours every Gameday is only fun if you're a Bama/OSU fan.
5) Good coaches will know that they can win a Ntl Championship at a G5 school and will give pause before taking a new job if they don't think there is a "glass ceiling"

Outcome #2 - G5 looks great in conference play then gets destroyed in the playoff.
1) This gives G5 teams an opportunity to know where they are compared to the top of the P5 and what they will have to do with their program to get to that level.
2) This will force legit G5 programs to schedule more P5 teams OOC. Much like Houston was able to do last year, Oklahoma early in the year and Louisville later in the year. Once again, better football games for casual fans to watch.

The best way to accomplish this is to move the playoff to 8 teams. 5 Automatic bids for P5 conference champs, 3 at large. The committee will find it much easier to put a G5 team in the playoffs if they feel they have 7 spots to capture the "best 7" from the P5.

That being said, i'm pulling for your team. I've followed UCF the past 2 years because of Scott Frost and hope nothing but the best for your team. The NU trolls that have come around this board are not indicative of the majority of NU fans. Good luck this week and hoping for your continued success regardless of what happens with the coaching situation.

It won't happen. There is a reason why Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson are in the MNC playoff every year. Because those teams have millions of fans who don't care that their team has a bad loss or 2. Objectively Ohio State should have no shot, and Alabama has the same resume as UCF, but those programs put butts in the seat at the bowl game and on couches across the country. The only way for a non brand name to get in is if they are in the P5 and go undefeated. The margin for error for Wisconsin is 1 loss, but for Ohio State it is 3. Clemson is ranked #1 with a bad loss to Syracuse.

 

[ThreeDogKnight]

7-3-1. That is the G5's -- and previously, mid-majors' -- record in NY6 bowl games against almighty power schools. (Boise vs. TCU is the "1".)

Fear of a blowout isn't the underlying reason here. Fear of embarrassment is the real reason.

 

[BigRedRhino]

It won't happen. There is a reason why Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson are in the MNC playoff every year. Because those teams have millions of fans who don't care that their team has a bad loss or 2. Objectively Ohio State should have no shot, and Alabama has the same resume as UCF, but those programs put butts in the seat at the bowl game and on couches across the country. The only way for a non brand name to get in is if they are in the P5 and go undefeated. The margin for error for Wisconsin is 1 loss, but for Ohio State it is 3. Clemson is ranked #1 with a bad loss to Syracuse.

You're right, it won't happen this year. But it should happen in the near future. The best chance is for playoff expansion and who knows how long it will take. I agree with you on Bama having a weak schedule and getting the benefit of the doubt for being "Bama". The NCAA is going to turn people off to college football if there is a belief that they system is more rigged than we thought. It's not the entire P5's fault. Look at Wisconsin, they haven't played anyone, but they are undefeated and until last week the national media had been saying they don't see a way Wisconsin can make it into the playoffs. It's looking more and more like If you're not in the SEC West, Clemson, or OSU then you're starting the season at a disadvantage.

 

[Finance2000Knight]

Yes UCF has played some good offensive teams, but do you think the AAC is a harder conference than the big 12? UCF should be higher in the rankings I completely agree. They should be ahead of Stanford for sure, but not ahead of a One loss OU, who has a big win against Ohio State on the road at night.

We already are a 1- time big 12 champ. Facts are facts, everyone was talking back then we had no shot, they were so fast, Yada yada yada. Then we punched them in the mouth. We won by 10 with them getting a garbage TD at the end. Stop with this crap about harder conferences, we played their champ and destroyed them. It is all conjecture to screw us non-blueboods. I guess you would rather win a beauty pageant than a real playoff. Nobody, and I mean nobody can claim a national title based on the past and present situations.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Yes UCF has played some good offensive teams, but do you think the AAC is a harder conference than the big 12? UCF should be higher in the rankings I completely agree. They should be ahead of Stanford for sure, but not ahead of a One loss OU, who has a big win against Ohio State on the road at night.

Since the American conference's existence the Big 12 champ is 2-2 against the American (0-1 against the American champ and 2-1 against also rans). The two wins came over Tulsa and Tulane. Baylor was the 2013 and 2014 Big 12 champion and UCF smashed them. Oklahoma was the 2015-2017 champ and Houston smashed them. The American was 10-10 against the ACC the past 2 years. Every conference has 3 or 4 good teams, a few decent bowl eligible teams and some cupcakes. The American is no exception.

 

[cnsaguy]

7-3-1. That is the G5's -- and previously, mid-majors' -- record in NY6 bowl games against almighty power schools. (Boise vs. TCU is the "1".)

Fear of a blowout isn't the underlying reason here. Fear of embarrassment is the real reason.

But that's only because the P5 teams were underwhelmed playing the G5 and the motivation was not there

Signed,
CFP committee

 

[Finance2000Knight]

But that's only because the P5 teams were underwhelmed playing the G5 and the motivation was not there

Signed,
CFP committee

Almost forgot that line of reasoning lol

 

[ThreeDogKnight]

But that's only because the P5 teams were underwhelmed playing the G5 and the motivation was not there

Signed,
CFP committee

Only in P5 football can someone use that weak excuse, and then have clueless hayseeds celebrate them for it.

 

[mattropolis]

A G5 team being the in playoffs would be great for college football. I would think that the national media would love being able to spend time discussing the "Cinderella Story" each year like they do in the basketball tourney. There would be two possible outcomes and both would be positive for College Football AND the national media.

Outcome #1 - G5 teams wins the national championship, wins 1 game, or is very competitive in their semi-final.
1) This will give the media an opportunity to create legitimate hype around games like UCF vs Georgia Tech, Memphis vs UCLA, etc. So a more captive national audience earlier in the year.
2) It will create conversation about who will be the "Cinderella" each year. Casual fans will be tune in more because they will be interested in hooking their wagon to the "underdog" much like they do in college basketball.
3) P5 teams will be more likely to schedule home-and-home games as they winning these games will be perceived as a "quality win".
4) It eliminates the constant national media only talking about the SEC and how good Bama is. Hearing about Bama/OSU for 2 hours every Gameday is only fun if you're a Bama/OSU fan.
5) Good coaches will know that they can win a Ntl Championship at a G5 school and will give pause before taking a new job if they don't think there is a "glass ceiling"

Outcome #2 - G5 looks great in conference play then gets destroyed in the playoff.
1) This gives G5 teams an opportunity to know where they are compared to the top of the P5 and what they will have to do with their program to get to that level.
2) This will force legit G5 programs to schedule more P5 teams OOC. Much like Houston was able to do last year, Oklahoma early in the year and Louisville later in the year. Once again, better football games for casual fans to watch.

The best way to accomplish this is to move the playoff to 8 teams. 5 Automatic bids for P5 conference champs, 3 at large. The committee will find it much easier to put a G5 team in the playoffs if they feel they have 7 spots to capture the "best 7" from the P5.

That being said, i'm pulling for your team. I've followed UCF the past 2 years because of Scott Frost and hope nothing but the best for your team. The NU trolls that have come around this board are not indicative of the majority of NU fans. Good luck this week and hoping for your continued success regardless of what happens with the coaching situation.

That's not how the discussion would ago. Everyone would just bag on us and say we don't belong there. If we win they'll make some excuse, or say we got lucky. If we lose they'll say "we told you so."

When we played Baylor, Robert Smith was on a show ranking every bowl game and giving a confidence number to each of like 30 Bowl games. For our game, he said Baylor was going to blow us out, and their wasn't a number high enough for the confidence he has in that pick. That's generally how we're all viewed. If a team is good, give them a shot. If we suck so bad and can't compete, it should be an easy victory....right?!?!?!?!?!

 

[ucfversusbcs]

The American was 10-10 against the ACC the past 2 years. Every conference has 3 or 4 good teams, a few decent bowl eligible teams and some cupcakes. The American is no exception.

UConn losing to Missouri and Boston College was a wet dream for the CFP...another excuse in the rabbit's hat to use to differentiate the g5 vs the p5.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

UConn losing to Missouri and Boston College was a wet dream for the CFP...another excuse in the rabbit's hat to use to differentiate the g5 vs the p5.

UConn is the worst team in the AAC East and has 3 wins. Boston College and Missouri are both 7 win middle of the pack teams in their conferences. Put them up against 7 win Houston and the results may be different. Houston beat a mid tier PAC 12 team and lost by 3 to a mid tier Big 12 team this year.