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djrenown

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man but the science told me vaccinations and masks work. Another tough one for the pro science pro mask crowd

 
Just when I thought we had the dumbest people imaginable on this board we get a new inbred setting the record.

I'm honestly flabbergasted at this stupidity. Do you guys have a monthly meeting where you get together and brainstorm ideas on how to remove what few IQ points you were born with?
 
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They went from 2 cases/day to 300 cases/day, that is a huge jump (no Covid-deaths for weeks to 2-3 day). I guess they want to bring it back down before it gets out of control (for Australia)
 
They went from 2 cases/day to 300 cases/day, that is a huge jump (no Covid-deaths for weeks to 2-3 day). I guess they want to bring it back down before it gets out of control (for Australia)
if someone is vaxxed AND masked, they still can't have friendly banter with an acquaintance. I mean dude, if we had Biden up there saying something similar, i'd be extremely concerned. No one should live life that afraid of people
 
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if someone is vaxxed AND masked, they still can't have friendly banter with an acquaintance. I mean dude, if we had Biden up there saying something similar, i'd be extremely concerned. No one should live life that afraid of people
That's been my point since the 2nd month of lockdown. It's throw sh-- at a wall and mandate it before it even sticks.

18 months of it now, all while politicians, elites and big business do what they want anyway, and people are tired of it.

"Do Something! " leadership.
 
just more proof that masks are useless. People are just afraid to say it.
They aren't useless. If you think this is proof masks are useless, than you don't understand their utility.

And by the way - the video you posted is terrible public health messaging. We agree on that.
 
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They aren't useless. If you think this is proof masks are useless, than you don't understand their utility.

And by the way - the video you posted is terrible public health messaging. We agree on that.
lol yup. He must be a Google search Scientist.
 
They aren't useless. If you think this is proof masks are useless, than you don't understand their utility.
They are useless for protecting the wearer.

And by the way - the video you posted is terrible public health messaging. We agree on that.
Indeed. We've reached chronic stupidity in leadership the last 18 months.
 
They are useless for protecting the wearer.
To follow up though - this isn't true. They aren't "useless" for the wearer. There's numerous studies that have evaluated the % of aerosols various types of masks filter. You don't get sick from inhaling a single viral particle - you need some concentration of particles to get an infectious dose. So even if your mask only captures 10% of the aerosols, that's still a little bit more wiggle room before you get infected.
 
To follow up though - this isn't true. They aren't "useless" for the wearer. There's numerous studies that have evaluated the % of aerosols various types of masks filter. You don't get sick from inhaling a single viral particle - you need some concentration of particles to get an infectious dose. So even if your mask only captures 10% of the aerosols, that's still a little bit more wiggle room before you get infected.
Effectively useless would be more accurate then. :)
 
The purpose of universal masking isn't to protect the wearer - it's to reduce community wide transmission rates.
Correct, which is what I've been saying from the get-go. But the narrative has been anything but such.

Especially among the irresponsible vaccinated since before, and even more so after, the CDC tri-flip.
 
Effectively useless would be more accurate then. :)
But the actual data ranges (generally) from 15% to 85% capture of aerosols in the studies I've looked at. It's not unreasonable at all to say the average crappy mask is reducing aerosols by ~50% - which logically provides the wearer a reasonable benefit.
 
But the actual data ranges (generally) from 15% to 85% capture of aerosols in the studies I've looked at. It's not unreasonable at all to say the average crappy mask is reducing aerosols by ~50% - which logically provides the wearer a reasonable benefit.
Depends greatly on design.
 
They aren't useless. If you think this is proof masks are useless, than you don't understand their utility.

And by the way - the video you posted is terrible public health messaging. We agree on that.
agreed on messaging.

Re Masks: If we can't have a conversation w/ masks on, then why are we recommending them in schools? Teachers and students speak for hours on end in a classroom, would that not be similar? Again, masks are better than wearing nothing, fine. However, no one truly knows how much better than 0 a cloth mask is. I've seen studies sanctioned by the WaPo done by Duke university show very little value and in some cases (gaiters) being worse than actually wearing nothing.
 
agreed on messaging.

Re Masks: If we can't have a conversation w/ masks on, then why are we recommending them in schools? Teachers and students speak for hours on end in a classroom, would that not be similar? Again, masks are better than wearing nothing, fine. However, no one truly knows how much better than 0 a cloth mask is. I've seen studies sanctioned by the WaPo done by Duke university show very little value and in some cases (gaiters) being worse than actually wearing nothing.
Yes there are some masks (like the study on Gaiters) that can increase aerosols when you cough or sneeze vs no masks. But again, if 90% of the population is wearing a mask that captures 50% of aerosols, and 10% are wearing a mask that doubles the aerosols, you'd still be coming out ahead.

And a cloth mask is substantially better than zero. I assume (from reading various studies) it's around 50% of aerosols on average for generic cotton masks.
 
How did Australia 🇦🇺 screw up their vaccine rollout so bad ? they could be completely over this with a half ass one
 
I assume you mean the right leaning party in Australia (called the Liberal party of Australia) which is the majority party in the country.
thats the one, says liberal on it, right? right leaning outside of the US is like bernie sanders left in the US. Gotta adjust for leftist inflation when you leave the US.
 
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thats the one, says liberal on it, right? right leaning outside of the US is like bernie sanders left in the US. Gotta adjust for leftist inflation when you leave the US.
Nope. They are a socially Conservative party similar to the Republican Party in the US. Best just bow out now instead of continuing to flaunt your ignorance. Next I’m going to trigger you by telling you the US is a liberal democracy.
 
Pandemic response is not a political ideology. Their actual political ideologies align with the Republican Party in the US.
Both parties are guilty.
The left is just as devoid of science.
But they are more drunk with power destroying freedom.
 
I legitimately cannot believe this stupid sack of shit @djrenown is actually a MAGA/GOP supporter. No one is honestly this stupid. He is getting straight up ramrodded in this thread with his idiot level takes.

Get a life man, todays GOP appears dumb enough without liberals like yourself pretending to be a republican with these doorknob IQ level hot takes.
 
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She should just shut up and put her facial security blanket on.
She is the Chief Health Officer for NSW, I think she is the person to be talking. They may be doing something right because they are having 2-3 deaths/day. BTW, I just read they may use the army to enforce the lockdown,
Are you triggered because is a woman?
 
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She is the Chief Health Officer for NSW, I think she is the person to be talking. They may be doing something right because they are having 2-3 deaths/day. BTW, I just read they may use the army to enforce the lockdown,
Are you triggered because is a woman?
But how many kids?

We had 5 last week according to the US CDC. But the US Media is saying otherwise.

Who is right?
 
I legitimately cannot believe this stupid sack of shit @djrenown is actually a MAGA/GOP supporter. No one is honestly this stupid. He is getting straight up ramrodded in this thread with his idiot level takes.

Get a life man, todays GOP appears dumb enough without liberals like yourself pretending to be a republican with these doorknob IQ level hot takes.
cool story bro.
You cannot believe there are conservatives in the United States?
I couldn't believe there were communist in america, but here we are, there are plenty alive and well.
 
I legitimately cannot believe this stupid sack of shit @djrenown is actually a MAGA/GOP supporter. No one is honestly this stupid. He is getting straight up ramrodded in this thread with his idiot level takes.

Get a life man, todays GOP appears dumb enough without liberals like yourself pretending to be a republican with these doorknob IQ level hot takes.
Don’t kick the dude when he’s down. His MAGA hat is the last bastion of freedom for him. Every other first world country’s major conservative party are just libtards.
 
cool story bro.
You cannot believe there are conservatives in the United States?
I couldn't believe there were communist in america, but here we are, there are plenty alive and well.

I have no problems with actual conservatives, as I am one.

I have a problem with idiot liberals like yourself coming up with legitimately insane conspiracy theories trying make yourself look like a nutjob conservative just to make the rest of us look bad.

Get a life.
 
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