CU ready to move! This seems real!

[U C to the F]

I was really hoping we would get a couple of ACC teams too... I'd like to see Pitt, VT/GT, NCState, and Duke/Virginia/Miami/Louisville join our conference as well. Rumors that the SEC would take Clemson, FSU, UNC, and Virginia have been getting louder over the last couple of months. More rumors have been saying that UNC and Virgina are the most coveted from the ACC because of their TV markets.

I’d bet the Big10 would snatch up Miami, although I’d love them to be in the Big12 as a travel partner and new regional rival. But AAU status and getting the Big10 into the FL market, truly coast to coast (even though their fans suck), I could see that being appealing to them.

 

[U C to the F]

As much ad memphis makes sense, id be ok with sdsu because of their huge market and their amazing beer

I almost feel bad saying this, as we felt the glass ceiling forever….but adding another G5 (after just adding 4 w/ us) is just bad aesthetically to the national perception and media. I’d love to add Memphis too, and they deserve it imho, but the optics aren’t needed when blood is in the Pac12 water. Plus the petty in me likes keeping more appealing/deserving G5s out there as options better than usf.

 

[SkiDog291]

MHver3 reporting Oregon and UW meeting with Big 12 execs tonight. Hopefully this will all work out and not go the UCONN and UNLV route.

 

[Poolside Knight]

From everything I’ve seen in any media outlet I have seen it is the remaining Big12 teams have really embraced the new 4 and have been extremely accommodating. They know what we brought and have embraced the new teams like one of their own. It’s been a really great experience as a fan with the conference teams engagement and acceptance. All teams are pretty equal, no one is “shitty”, it’s so refreshing.

this is true. You can’t judge entire fanbases from only social media but a lot of Pac fanbases were very high brow towards Big 12 fanbases

 

[Dream Killer]

I hope they are just using the other G5s as threat to try to cattle prod the remaining pac schools they are interested in. I am already tired of hearing how the big12 is just a watered down power conference. Bringing up more g5s (no matter how deserving) will only enhance that narrative. I hate even typing this out and holding others back, but conference realignment has to be looked at through a somewhat selfish lense.

 

[SkiDog291]

Based on the strategy made by the Big10 to get USC and UCLA, I feel this a very real possibility to secure a larger geo-diverse footprint. I don't see them taking both FSU and Miami. Miami makes the most sense getting the larger city market.

 

[Knight59]

I’d bet the Big10 would snatch up Miami, although I’d love them to be in the Big12 as a travel partner and new regional rival. But AAU status and getting the Big10 into the FL market, truly coast to coast (even though their fans suck), I could see that being appealing to them.

I don’t think the Big10 will go for Miami. They love the traditions associated with college football, like big on-campus games. They’re not going to want to have to bus everybody out to an NFL stadium and have tailgating in the parking lots by the turnpike. Miami’s traditions are ghetto. Not a good look for the Big 10.

 

[SkiDog291]

I don’t think the Big10 will go for Miami. They love the traditions associated with college football, like big on-campus games. They’re not going to want to have to bus everybody out to an NFL stadium and have tailgating in the parking lots by the turnpike. Miami’s traditions are ghetto. Not a good look for the Big 10.

And UCLA or USC have big college game day traditions?

 

[Knight59]

I almost feel bad saying this, as we felt the glass ceiling forever….but adding another G5 (after just adding 4 w/ us) is just bad aesthetically to the national perception and media. I’d love to add Memphis too, and they deserve it imho, but the optics aren’t needed when blood is in the Pac12 water. Plus the petty in me likes keeping more appealing/deserving G5s out there as options better than usf.

And we go back to the new B12 contract; bring in non-P5 schools and everyone’s cut gets smaller and strength of schedule drops. Just can’t see the teams in the conference agreeing to that.

 

[Knight59]

And UCLA or USC have big college game day traditions?

You’re joking, right? You do know the history of those schools? Does USC have traditions? Seriously?

 

[SkiDog291]

You’re joking, right? You do know the history of those schools? Does USC have traditions? Seriously?

I just left LA today after being onsite for a couple weeks. Talking to numerous business folks I work with out there graduating from both schools, most do not care about athletics.

 

[Poolside Knight]

I just left LA today after being onsite for a couple weeks. Talking to numerous business folks I work with out there graduating from both schools, most do not care about athletics.

I have been to a game at SC and it is was a cool atmosphere. they just don’t have the crazy southerner fan behavior. if they are good enough it is one of the best settings in College Football at the Coliseum and that Brand matters . If they stink attendance tapers off some but UCF is the same way with a smaller stadium and a baby as far as Brand goes.

Their stadium setup and fanbase is much better than Miami.

 

[lawknight]

Very F'ing true

Very true as well, but still, being the youngest P5 school, we are in a fortunate position.

I think we'll see at least one more addition before the beginning of the season. Oregon State?

Maybe Arizona and ASU within a year.

Just my guess.

why take the ugly step sister (Oregon State) when you can have the Prom Queen (Oregon)

 

[Shark19]

why take the ugly step sister (Oregon State) when you can have the Prom Queen (Oregon)

Because the prom queen will leave the dance with someone else (Big10).

 

[Knight59]

I just left LA today after being onsite for a couple weeks. Talking to numerous business folks I work with out there graduating from both schools, most do not care about athletics.

Yeah, I get that. I’ve heard the same thing. And that’s what will probably end up killing the PAC12. But what I was talking about is the actual game day with a crowd that does follow college football. Like USC is the first school to come up with the horse riding to the middle of the field with the guy in the armor, getting the crowd all fired up. When College Game day goes there it’s pretty insane. I bet college football will be more popular when it’s Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, etc. coming to play.

 

[Poolside Knight]

why take the ugly step sister (Oregon State) when you can have the Prom Queen (Oregon)

Oregon State didn’t get a bid. They released a statement today saying they are commited to the Pac.

Yormack should stay away from Oregon State and Washington State . Both way too isolated , they are Mountain West material

 

[PositYourself]

Getting the coast to coast time zones is paramount for the Big12.

If Oregon, Washington State, Wash or Oregon State don't work out, I'd be just fine with San Diego State.

We're at 13 now. Another addition seems inevitable.

 

[Poolside Knight]

it doesn’t benefit ESPN short term for the Big10 to add more teams bc it only helps Fox.

 

[UCFootball14]

Getting the coast to coast time zones is paramount for the Big12.

If Oregon, Washington State, Wash or Oregon State don't work out, I'd be just fine with San Diego State.

We're at 13 now. Another addition seems inevitable.

I thought that if big12 add a G5 team then each team will lose tv money? If that’s correct why would anyone do this

 

[PositYourself]

I thought that if big12 add a G5 team then each team will lose tv money? If that’s correct why would anyone do this

I guess because YO (tired of trying to spell his name bc I'm dumb) thinks BBALL is undervalued and is the future.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

Getting the coast to coast time zones is paramount for the Big12.

If Oregon, Washington State, Wash or Oregon State don't work out, I'd be just fine with San Diego State.

We're at 13 now. Another addition seems inevitable.

Stay additive.

 

[DaShuckster]

I guess because YO (tired of trying to spell his name bc I'm dumb) thinks BBALL is undervalued and is the future.

If BBall was ANY factor, then schools like Duke, N.Carolina, Kansas, and Syracuse would be hot commodities. Guess what? They're NOT.

This is why so many programs are panicking. The SEC and the B1G are set. They don't need to do anything more (although the B1G would take ND in a heartbeat and the SEC would likely be open to Clemson.) But if the Big Dawgs aren't going to expand further, it's a mad game of musical chairs for everybody else.

The key is to be in a stable conference that will allow that program to be a part of the new playoff picture. The ACC and the Pac12 are a mess. So -- ironically, given OU and Texas splitting -- the Big XII looks to be in the best position to be the B1G's and the SEC's playoff buddy.

Trust me, the NEW playoff isn't going to be open to everybody who plays D1 ball. It's going to be between 32 and 40 programs. If I'm the Big XII Commissioner, I'd be operating on the notion that the two Big Dawgs currently have no plans to expand further. So I'd be playing some serious hard ball with programs like Oregon, Washington, and Arizona. You guys are in the driver's seat.

 

[B R Knightz2]

Big12 should get to 16 now…if we go after Oregon & UW make sure the out clause is as strong as can be.

 

[Poolside Knight]

Big12 should get to 16 now…if we go after Oregon & UW make sure the out clause is as strong as can be.

some rumblings about Acc but you figure they would factor in travel. Big 12 would probably have Colorado, Arizona for shorter trips

 

[DaShuckster]

Getting the coast to coast time zones is paramount for the Big12.

No it isn't. What is paramount is adding programs which will enhance the conference's argument it's the third best Big Dawg Conference.

If Oregon, Washington State, Wash or Oregon State don't work out, I'd be just fine with San Diego State.

Adding San Diego State works against the effort to be considered 'Big Dawg Worthy' and not a watered down P5.

 

[PositYourself]

Adding San Diego State works against the effort to be considered 'Big Dawg Worthy' and not a watered down P5.

So why does Brett Yormark want to add UCONN so badly?

(assuming he knows more than you)?

 

[DaShuckster]

So why does Brett Yormark want to add UCONN so badly?

(assuming he knows more than you)?

That's a BIG assumption!

Given the Big XII's footprint, he's doing the same thing the B1G did in adding Rutgers and Maryland. But -- IMO -- right here and right now, he's needs to be more concerned with bolstering conference's "Big Dawg" status

 

[Knightengr89]

Yup, sounds like Neon Deon

With his medical issues I'm not sure how long Deion is going to be able to coach.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

So why does Brett Yormark want to add UCONN so badly?

(assuming he knows more than you)?

False flag campaign to instigate urgent action on the PAC front... His strategy has been bold & fast, exposing weakness of competing conference leadership... i.e. Big 12 Media Rights deal.

 

[Poolside Knight]

anyone else seen FSU media and fans losing their mind? they want to break the ACC GOR and pay 30 mil a year for a decade to go to the Big10. I don’t even think Texas would flush that many millions down the toilet

it is funny UCF being in a decent position has them talking irrationally ..they will say it is unrelated

 

[UCFloridaTech]

anyone else seen FSU media and fans losing their mind? they want to break the ACC GOR and pay 30 mil a year for a decade to go to the Big10. I don’t even think Texas would flush that many millions down the toilet

it is funny UCF being in a decent position has them talking irrationally ..they will say it is unrelated

For what the B1G would pay out vs current ACC GOR revenue distribution for the next 13 years, it becomes a simple NPV math equation for FSU.

When that happens and ACC crumbles, B.Y.O.mark will pounce. 😎

 

[Shark19]

Need to up our game and send the Arizona administrators a big box full of co-eds to get them to join. Once they do, I expect to land ASU and Utah or Ore St in short order.

I understand the love for Ore/Wash but I don’t want to be in business with schools who feel forced to join us and will be looking over their shoulder every day.

 

[Shark19]

So why does Brett Yormark want to add UCONN so badly?

(assuming he knows more than you)?

No more G5 teams…..all the truly worthy ones are now a P5.

Hit the PAC hard, then wait out the ACC

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

As much ad memphis makes sense, id be ok with sdsu because of their huge market and their amazing beer

sdsu just sounds small. Just saying. Add the Arizonas.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

I almost feel bad saying this, as we felt the glass ceiling forever….but adding another G5 (after just adding 4 w/ us) is just bad aesthetically to the national perception and media. I’d love to add Memphis too, and they deserve it imho, but the optics aren’t needed when blood is in the Pac12 water. Plus the petty in me likes keeping more appealing/deserving G5s out there as options better than usf.

agree. Add the Arizonas I say!

 

[DaShuckster]

No more G5 teams…..all the truly worthy ones are now a P5.

THIS!!!! ^^^^^

 

[UCF_Kaz]

Colorado looking smart to get out first. Only so many chairs available and that streaming media deal is looking a lot like a dud on arrival.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

Colorado looking smart to get out first. Only so many chairs available and that streaming media deal is looking a lot like a dud on arrival.

If it was anything spectacular, PAC leadership would be boasting... Sounds like a 'progressive' annual payout schedule, based on subscriber numbers ...fitting, for the west coast. 😎

 

[Poolside Knight]

looks like Big10 has reviewed Oregon and Washington so no chance of them to the Big12. They are probably waiting on Arizona to move to Big12 first

 

[Shark19]

Dennis Dodd reporting that the Big10 is taking a fresh look at bringing in Ore/Wash/Stan/Cal since the PAC whatever’s media deal is so bad…..now a floor for bringing these 4 in would be reduced because even less than 1/2 shares is much better than the PAC deal.

So under this scenario, the other PAC schools will be trying to climb up our walls to get in like zombies in World War Z.