DeSantis: I want my own military!

[DaShuckster]

SMH.

DeSantis proposes a new civilian military force in Florida that he would control

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis wants to reestablish a World War II-era civilian military force that he, not the Pentagon, would control.

www.cnn.com

 

[Crazyhole]

Why is that a bad thing?

 

[DaShuckster]

Why is that a bad thing?

Why does he need one? Like other states, Florida already has its own national guard for crying out loud.

 

[DaShuckster]

Sounds like a good idea to help with the national guard

Duh, save money and simply EXPAND the current National Guard then.

 

[Crazyhole]

Why does he need one? Like other states, Florida already has its own national guard for crying out loud.

The state national guard can be called up by the Pentagon and then they wouldn't have an emergency task force. Why wouldn't you want a group of trained individuals that will always be at your disposal in case of an emergency?

 

[Crazyhole]

Any outrage towards New York and California? Anybody?

 

[chemmie]

Right-wing ain't livin' if they ain't scurrd.

 

[DaShuckster]

This would give more state control with emergency needs "and" also support the national guard. No issues right?

Right. They 'support' the national guard by being in the national guard.

 

[Poolside Knight]

never seen a Florida Governor that is in national campaign mode 100% of the time .

 

[sk8knight]

never seen a Florida Governor that is in national campaign mode 100% of the time .

Probably why we’ve never seen a President that was a Florida Governor.

 

[Crazyhole]

Right. They 'support' the national guard by being in the national guard.

So do you support the national guard?

 

[UCFKnight85]

Imagine my shock to find that the same dipshit left wingers who soak up lies from the media are soaking up lies from the media again.

Here, I'll help. It's in the goddamn article but buried low enough, in hopes that left wing goons won't get to actually reading this:

If Florida moves ahead with DeSantis’ plan to reestablish the civilian force, it would become the 23rd active state guard in the country, DeSantis’ office said in a press release, joining California, Texas and New York.

“Reestablishing the Florida State Guard will allow civilians from all over the state to be trained in the best emergency response techniques and have the ability to mobilize very, very quickly,” DeSantis said during a visit to Pensacola on Thursday.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Lmao such a goddamn hypocrite. Imagine the GOP calling itself the party of small government.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Funny stuff. The media hates DeSantis. Entertaining sideshow watching them spin facts.

These are the same people who were clutching their pearls when people were on the beach in Florida last March 2020. Same people who assured us that DeSantis would be marching children to their deaths by sending kids back to school in August (surely, only to be disappointed that kids were not dying in droves for their own political motivates).

There is a true sickness on the left when it comes to this guy, they are absolutely unhinged.

 

[Crazyhole]

These are the same people who were clutching their pearls when people were on the beach in Florida last March 2020. Same people who assured us that DeSantis would be marching children to their deaths by sending kids back to school in August (surely, only to be disappointed that kids were not dying in droves for their own political motivates).

There is a true sickness on the left when it comes to this guy, they are absolutely unhinged.

He's the greatest threat to their anti-liberty agenda in a generation. What do you expect?

 

[Poolside Knight]

lmao if anything DeSantis has had favorable media vs other Republicans. calm down

 

[DaShuckster]

There is a true sickness on the left when it comes to this guy, they are absolutely unhinged.

Damn good point, 85!!!

If only those "sicko" lefties would treat those who disagree with their politics with the same dignity and respect as Republicans do.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Damn good point, 85!!!

If only those "sicko" lefties would treat those who disagree with their politics with the same dignity and respect as Republicans do.

At some point are you going to concede that your OP, and the link you shared, deliberately lies about what is going on here?

I know the answer to this question, but need to pose it anyways.

 

[Crazyhole]

lmao if anything DeSantis has had favorable media vs other Republicans. calm down

Fair point. Can't get any more favorable that giving him the nickname "deathsantis"

 

[DaShuckster]

At some point are you going to concede that your OP, and the link you shared, deliberately lies about what is going on here?

LOL You show everybody how the article 'deliberately lies' by....quoting directly from it? Ooooooooookay. 🤪

 

[UCFKnight85]

LOL You show everybody how the article 'deliberately lies' by....quoting directly from it? Ooooooooookay. 🤪

Then why did you type "SMH" and an article that grossly misrepresents what is going on?

What are you shaking your head at?

 

[Poolside Knight]

Fair point. Can't get any more favorable that giving him the nickname "deathsantis"

Twitter isn’t real life. He gets very favorable media with local affiliates and even left center cable news . Even during Delta where something around 21k people died from July-October with a vaccine available it barely made a blip on tv bc they were obsessed with Afghanistan

 

[UCFKnight85]

Twitter isn’t real life. He gets very favorable media with local affiliates and even left center cable news . Even during Delta where something around 21k people died from July-October with a vaccine available it barely made a blip on tv bc they were obsessed with Afghanistan

Afghanistan coverage was done in between the nonstop segments on Florida COVID cases and obsessing over every daily report / declaring that he's killing people. And then, it all stopped and suddenly the media no longer cared about COVID cases when the national surge started coming from places other than Florida, just as DeSantis said would happen.

 

[NinjaKnight]

He needs his own personally loyal army so they can invade Ben & Jerry's HQ so they won't be mean to Israel anymore, just like any self respecting small government governor would do.

If you are still supporting the GOP in 2021 you belong to a cult

 

[Poolside Knight]

Afghanistan coverage was done in between the nonstop segments on Florida COVID cases and obsessing over every daily report / declaring that he's killing people. And then, it all stopped and suddenly the media no longer cared about COVID cases when the national surge started coming from places other than Florida, just as DeSantis said would happen.

A Governor can get called out for not promoting the vaccine more. but I can’t wait till COVID isn’t a political issue anymore , it’s exhausting and I wish everyone would admit that up and down waves have nothing to do w what party is in power in that State. But a Leader can limit the damage done by modeling temporary measures when those waves hit. Similar to 2020 Florida is awful July-October then the Midwest gets hot spots Nov/Dec , California Jan/Feb

 

[DaShuckster]

Then why did you type "SMH" and an article that grossly misrepresents what is going on?

The article 'grossly misrepresents' what's going on? LOL I already trashed that regurgitated argument in my last post.

And excuse me for believing a State Defense Force is a quaint relic of a bygone era. Florida needs to spend money on an SDF like it needs a hole in the head. And most of the existing ones are a joke. Back in the late 1980s, the governor of Utah had to fire 31 officers for creating an SDF full of neo-nazis, mental patients, and felons. Look it up -- I kid you not.

Can they be helpful during a natural disaster like a hurricane? YOU BETCHA! But it seems to me Florida is better off expanding its existing national guard than creating a whole new -- and expensive -- entity to 'help' them.

Remind me again, aren't Republicans like DeSantis the champions of small government?

 

[goodknightfl]

Duh, save money and simply EXPAND the current National Guard then.

He just wants to keep up with the big Blue states. NY and California.

 

[DaShuckster]

He just wants to keep up with the big Blue states. NY and California.

You know your argument sucks when the best you guys can come up with is that 'New York and California are doing it'!!!!!

 

[NinjaKnight]

A Governor can get called out for not promoting the vaccine more. but I can’t wait till COVID isn’t a political issue anymore , it’s exhausting and I wish everyone would admit that up and down waves have nothing to do w what party is in power in that State. But a Leader can limit the damage done by modeling temporary measures when those waves hit. Similar to 2020 Florida is awful July-October then the Midwest gets hot spots Nov/Dec , California Jan/Feb

This part is factually not true. Per Capita death rates for GOP held counties are on the order of 3x higher than democrat controlled.

 

[Crazyhole]

Obama Calls for Civilian Force as Large as the Military

We all know we saw this one coming. This is one of the many examples of how this administration has been ridiculously expanding the size of the government. At Wednesday’s townhall meeting, Obama

yaliberty.org

Throwback to when a civilian security force as large as the military was cool with the left.

 

[NinjaKnight]

This part is factually not true. Per Capita death rates for GOP held counties are on the order of 3x higher than democrat controlled.

Quoted with source.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

"Since May 2021, people living in counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump during the last presidential election have been nearly three times as likely to die from COVID-19 as those who live in areas that went for now-President Biden."


Today's GOP is literally a death cult.

 

[Nautiknight]

I started looking stuff up regarding the NPR story how Trump places had more COVID deaths . I guess you could cross tab voter registration against death rates or you could specifically get death records and look up party rolls and then ask was Richard Head who from COVID a republican or democrat ?

I read there were 5 states that went for Trump that had also highest death rates. Oklahoma was a big one. Then I was scratching my head and asked, weird, Oklahoma has more native peoples than any other state . am I to believe they all vote Republican? I then searched some data . Native people have a death rate of over 13,000 per 100,000 cases while white people it was around 8,000 per 100,000 . Of course not knowing voter registration by race I cant assume Trump or Biden. It's interesting though in Oklahoma more native Americans died and Hispanics than white people . THE MEDIA would lead you to believe all the Hispanics and natives are Democrat . If that's largely true for Oklahoma , then while the state went for Trump those more likely to die from COVID have been Democrat and not Republican. Or, the media is just wrong on voter demographics and truly more Republicans are dying.

I bet when you break Florida down the data tells a different story. Either way , most people I know both democrat and republican are vaccinated and the one person I know who died from covid was vaccinated and he tended to vote R . He was 65 years young . I think my county here in NC went for Trump. I don't think NPR results actually mean much one way or the other

Oklahoma: All Race & Ethnicity Data

Historical time series of race and ethnicity data in Oklahoma.

covidtracking.com

 

[UCFKnight85]

The article 'grossly misrepresents' what's going on? LOL I already trashed that regurgitated argument in my last post.

And excuse me for believing a State Defense Force is a quaint relic of a bygone era. Florida needs to spend money on an SDF like it needs a hole in the head. And most of the existing ones are a joke. Back in the late 1980s, the governor of Utah had to fire 31 officers for creating an SDF full of neo-nazis, mental patients, and felons. Look it up -- I kid you not.

Can they be helpful during a natural disaster like a hurricane? YOU BETCHA! But it seems to me Florida is better off expanding its existing national guard than creating a whole new -- and expensive -- entity to 'help' them.

Remind me again, aren't Republicans like DeSantis the champions of small government?

You are an absolute clown. Hint - stick to talking about whatever happens in Nebraska, and stop trying to talk about things that are happening in Florida.

Here's how much the Florida State Guard will cost: $3.5M. In a budget of $101B.

Wow, what a budget buster that is! Sure hope FL can survive that .003% budget increase.

DeSantis visits Pensacola to announce $100 million budget proposal for Florida National Guard

Gov. Ron DeSantis wants a state budget increase of over $100 million to better fund the Florida National Guard and re-establish a Florida State Guard.

www.pnj.com

 

[NinjaKnight]

You are an absolute clown. Hint - stick to talking about whatever happens in Nebraska, and stop trying to talk about things that are happening in Florida.

Here's how much the Florida State Guard will cost: $3.5M. In a budget of $101B.

Wow, what a budget buster that is! Sure hope FL can survive that .003% budget increase.

DeSantis visits Pensacola to announce $100 million budget proposal for Florida National Guard

Gov. Ron DeSantis wants a state budget increase of over $100 million to better fund the Florida National Guard and re-establish a Florida State Guard.

www.pnj.com

Yeah guys, it's only a couple million. Who cares?

This is a perfect example of how the GOP always claims to be the party of small gov and then after getting elected runs a huge deficit while destroying the economy.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Holy shit. Trumps own former Chief of staff admits Trump tried to kill Biden. Absolutely insane.

A forthcoming book by Trump’s own chief of staff now reportedly indicates that Trump did, in fact, know that he had COVID when he showed up to the September 29 debate. From the Guardian:

Donald Trump tested positive for Covid-19 three days before his first debate against Joe Biden, the former president’s fourth and last chief of staff has revealed in a new book.

Mark Meadows also writes that though he knew each candidate was required “to test negative for the virus within seventy two hours of the start time … Nothing was going to stop [Trump] from going out there.”

 

[Knight In TN]

Yeah guys, it's only a couple million. Who cares?

This is a perfect example of how the GOP always claims to be the party of small gov and then after getting elected runs a huge deficit while destroying the economy.

You’re gonna bitch about $3.5 million while Biden is trying to get trillions in spending approved? You’re a clown.

 

[NinjaKnight]

You’re gonna bitch about $3.5 million while Biden is trying to get trillions in spending approved? You’re a clown.

Yes, you stupid sack of inbred shit. Bidens plan actually pays for useful infrastructure that we desperately need.

Desantis is wasting millions to play make believe dictator.

I know you lack the critical thinking skills required to understand the difference, but rest assured if you were smarter you would realize just how goddamn stupid you are.

 

[UCFKnight85]

You’re gonna bitch about $3.5 million while Biden is trying to get trillions in spending approved? You’re a clown.

All DeSantis has to do is peddle the narrative that the cost of this is actually $0 and it's all good. Just like the White House has done when trying to pass $6T in new, additional spending.

It's free, baby!

 

[DaShuckster]

Yeah guys, it's only a couple million. Who cares? This is a perfect example of how the GOP always claims to be the party of small gov and then after getting elected runs a huge deficit while destroying the economy.

The alternative to "spending 'only' 3.5 million" to set up a civilian guard is simply to ramp up its recruiting campaign for the current Florida National Guard. But the 'sexiness' of a civilian guard NOT tied to the Feds is worth it to our Usual Suspects here.

You’re gonna bitch about $3.5 million while Biden is trying to get trillions in spending approved?

Good Lord, you're going to whine about the infrastructure bill? Really? SMH.

 

[UCFKnight85]

The alternative to "spending 'only' 3.5 million" to set up a civilian guard is simply to ramp up its recruiting campaign for the current Florida National Guard. But the 'sexiness' of a civilian guard NOT tied to the Feds is worth it to our Usual Suspects here.

Good Lord, you're going to whine about the infrastructure bill? Really? SMH.

I think his point is that you're here in absolute whiny hysterics about spending $3.5M on something, which is fully paid for within the FL budget, for a priority in a State that you don't even live in, yet have no whiny hysterics to give about spending $1.3T on a Federal bill that is not fully paid for.

Anything to advance the unhinged hatred of Ron DeSantis, I guess.