He does seem to get a pass due to his Nebraska ties and general coolness. @Crazyhole what is up with that man?
Interesting read about Nebraska's "favorite son." Thanks for posting. I also got some chuckles reading the Randy Edsall and Vanderbilt entries.
Would be interested to see if Danny would take him back. I do agree with you, Frost was THE perfect fit for UCF IMO.
At the time he was a perfect fit for UCF and UCF was the perfect fit for him. But he followed his "dream school" instead of understanding that fit. Not mad at him for leaving, although it was low rent to erase the recruiting database . He tried to recreate the UCF experience at Nebraska by taking EVERY coach and trainer. It has not been a success. What it tells me is that it was not just him, but also what UCF gave him.
Who would you rather have as our next HC than Scott Frost? I understand the pride thing, and it's unconventional thinking, but if Frost gets fired this year and we are in the market for a new head coach, really who would you rather have?
I don't know a lot of coordinators but Venables (spelling?) and Tony Elliott from Clemson come to mind. I'm not under the impression either is on the market but maybe if the right school approached them.
Yes those two are monsters but I have heard that Venables has turned down P5 HC jobs before. I don't know if we can pull one of them or not, USF couldn't.
I just don’t understand why people want him fired. He’s done a great job. Not well enough to get poached by a top 20 P5 destination just yet. If he goes undefeated next year and gets taken I will be happy. Then we can worry about next man up. I would even like Shannon to take over if that happens.
The Frost ever coming back to UCF train has left. I guess you can never say never, but it would be many years from now. Not with DW still here. If he had a second chance I think that he would still have left. He’s not the greatest coach as demonstrated by his performance at NGEbraska so far, but he was a good fit for UCF
I am not convinced it was a Scott Frost thing. I think SF found lightning in a bottle and cashed in. I believe if he stayed he would have no better record than Heupel, maybe worse because I think Shannon is a better DC than Chinander. I honestly do not think Scott Frost would have been that much of a better of a recruiter at UCF. What juice would he have coming here off a disaster at NE? The first time he was the young up and comer, now he would be just another P5 coach that could not cut it. I think UCF fans need to realize that we are a stepping stone. will continue to be a stepping stone. I think that is a better place to be than a place where old coaches come to die (see USF and South Carolina). Give me the next young, up and coming new coach. IF Heup is gone it will be because he was too successful, rather than not successful enough. At that point we might have enough juice to pick one of the coaches that has turned down G5 jobs before.
DW will never hire Frost again. Frost lied to DW's face and DW doesn't play that ish!
It has more to do with people being tired of the revolving door for coaches in Lincoln. The win-loss record isn't good but people can see some improvement and know how bad the situation was when he came in.
The main thing is I think Frost's offense was PERFECT for the kids we recruit. Heup took away a lot of the lateral movement and started throwing deep bombs all the time (and he kept the Killins up the middle play, which, just... ugh). KZ is a demigod so he was able to keep things going without much of a drop off, but I really think Frost's offense was perfect for us.
I am not sure if this is fact or just looking back with fondness for a great season. Frost was not here long enough to try and adjust to new personnel and KZ was a demigod for both coaches. I agree that there were some some differences in the offense and it certainly fit the personnel in 2017. But to think it would have continued as effective is speculation. Also the defense changed dramatically. To be sure I am not a Frost hater. I wish he had not left, but I am convinced it was more UCF and the kids that were already here (add KZ) than it was Frost.
Yes, it is speculation by definition. Yes, it's mostly about the kids. Yes, Frost benefited from GOL's defensive leftovers.
His wife wants ti be here and that matters alot. Hell my wifey wants back to san diego and im gonna figure a way to make it happen now
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Seems to me we are debating if we would take back a coach who rode UCF to a payday and who has been less than stellar ever since while UCF has kept on rolling. Don't hate us because we have been successful man...Just so I understand, Golden Knight fans are debating on whether or not you'd take back a coach that packed up and left with your program at its highest point? You guys, lol.
That's fair, I think we are pretty much on the same page on this. I agree that since he scorned us it would take a lot for the fans and administration to accept him. Unlikely that it would even be considered. I just hope whoever the coach is that we play to our strengths. Hopefully Heup steps up this year and we don't have to think about it.
NE fans with visions of grandeur. 9-4 not good enough. They have to be winning NCs like the 90s. Seems like there is s lesson there for many of us
I dont think I would call it visions of grandeur. When you go 40 years averaging 10 wins with 5 national titles and 5 more title game appearances it is pretty apparent that the ceiling is high. Its not like the program was a flash in the pan.
The rich history is definitely there, for sure. Some would argue that college football has moved on from Nebraska, I would say I land in the middle somewhere.
Yes, it is a rich history to be sure. The problem with success is that it breeds high expectations. Something we are also experiencing. They fired Bo Pelini when the guy's worst season was a nine win season and who won a B10 Championship. No NC, no job. That was pure hubris. I am not sure that football has passed NE by, but with the advent of cable TV and streaming, there is no need to go to Lincoln to get attention. NE can still be relevant but IMO they need to build a new brand. Scott Frost, while an up tempo guy, is still viewed as part of the old guard.
A lack of NCs didn't cost Bo Pelini his job. A lack of CCs and getting destroyed in every game that counted after his first couple of years did.
Bo never won a conference title. Regardless, he wasn't fired for underperforming, he was fired because the chancellor was an academic and resented the athletic department being the defining image of the University so when Bo became a full-on embarassment with his temper tantrums it was easy to get rid of the guy.
