I suppose getting beat by more than 40 by a mediocre Wisc team in the B10 champ did not help. The move to the B10 has not been kind to NE. I bet they are wishing they stayed in the B12
Frost on the hot seat
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There's no end in sight for them either. It's gonna be a very long winter for the Huskers.
They seem to be stuck in the 1990s from a branding standpoint. As long as Tom Osborne is alive they will never move on
"It's taken longer than any of us wish it would have," Frost said. "I think we had a good enough team to turn the corner last year and it didn't happen. I think we are arguably more talented this year. We're going to have a new quarterback."
"But the feeling around Nebraska doesn't change. Every year, it's optimism and support."
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"But the feeling around Nebraska doesn't change. Every year, it's optimism and support."
🎈🐍 back at it again...
Nebraska's Frost: Sky not falling, despite record
Though Scott Frost has yet to produce a winning season since taking over at his alma mater, the Nebraska coach says that the sky is not falling and that the team has been doing things the right way, despite limited on-field success.
Frost's record at Nebraska would support that opinion. But one of Frost's issues is he fell in love with Adrian Martinez. The key to Frost's offense is operating at a lightening fast pace and having a QB who is -- in Frost's words -- "a quick blinker." McKenzie Milton was a quick blinker who ran UCF's offense like a fiddle but while Martinez was a great athlete and a tough competitor, a fast "blinker" he was not.
Chinander and his defensive coaches have been damn impressive at Nebraska. He inherited a gawd-awful bunch and, thru recruiting and coaching, has developed a solid B1G defense. Ironically, if Frost's offense had lived up its billing, the Huskers would've been a Top 10 program by now.
Frost's offensive problems lie with the fact that B1G defenses are, week end and week out, quite a bit tougher than AAC ones. And quick little scatbacks are more challenged when facing quick BIG defenders week after week.
As @dali drama accurately opined, Husker fans are always optimistic -- and this season is no exception. We'll just have to wait and see.
Aside from size, depth has traditionally been a differentiating factor between the G5/P5 leagues.Frost's offensive problems lie with the fact that B1G defenses are, week end and week out, quite a bit tougher than AAC ones. And quick little scatbacks are more challenged when facing quick BIG defenders week after week.
Much Harder to tire out a defense with speed when the 2s and, sometimes 3s can come in and have little drop off.
I agree that Frost cashed in on UCF and KZ. Regarding Nebraska, the proof is in the pudding. Frost has not been unable to recruit the players he needs. If there was someone better than Martinez he would have been startingFrost's record at Nebraska would support that opinion. But one of Frost's issues is he fell in love with Adrian Martinez. The key to Frost's offense is operating at a lightening fast pace and having a QB who is -- in Frost's words -- "a quick blinker." McKenzie Milton was a quick blinker who ran UCF's offense like a fiddle but while Martinez was a great athlete and a tough competitor, a fast "blinker" he was not.
Chinander and his defensive coaches have been damn impressive at Nebraska. He inherited a gawd-awful bunch and, thru recruiting and coaching, has developed a solid B1G defense. Ironically, if Frost's offense had lived up its billing, the Huskers would've been a Top 10 program by now.
Frost's offensive problems lie with the fact that B1G defenses are, week end and week out, quite a bit tougher than AAC ones. And quick little scatbacks are more challenged when facing quick BIG defenders week after week.
As @dali drama accurately opined, Husker fans are always optimistic -- and this season is no exception. We'll just have to wait and see.
This season's #1 going into Fall Camp is Casey Thompson, last year's starting QB at Texas. #2 is former FSU QB Chubby Purdy
They pretty much quit getting thier Texas and SoCal recruiting pipelines the year they entered theBig 10 (It was starting to dip before they left the Big 12, actually). You lose your recruiting pipelines to two areas where there is a ton of raw talent, it’s going to show, and it has.
Two QBs from teams with losing seasons. Does not give much confidence. Year 5 with Covid reprieve. At this point I am kind of rooting for him. I am just not sure that Nebraska was willing to give him a clean slate to work with like UCF was.
What do you mean? He brought the ENTIRE staff with him from UCF... He didn't walk into a Heupel / Randy Shannom scenario.
Doubt they were influencing his offensive schemes.
Nebraska was 100% bought in! The contract shows. He just hasn't lived up to it. Maybe less pressure at UCF when he took over than Nebraska. We just wanted Oleary gone and coming off 0-12 we just wanted something new.
Curious how long Heupel would have stayed, no signs that the team was going to compete for conference championships, however, Mohajir doesn't look like one to fire coaches if the team is at least treading water.
I mean that Nebraska is full of old time traditions. From the blackshirts to the uniforms etc. It is also full of old time boosters. Frost came to UCF and was told he could build whatever he wanted. From uniforms to UCFast to everything was a complete rebranding of the program coming out of the GOL era. He attracted kids because of his vision and young and hip future. That was married to the GOL commitment to academic success. No boosters told him what he could do or not do. I doubt he has had that kind of freedom at Nebraska. That is why I think that Frost and UCF were perfect for each other. Going to Nebraska it was inevitable that people wanted to go back to 1998.
Yep. As painful as it's been in recent years, the fact remains that Nebraska has historically been one of CFB's blueblood programs.
Sadly, I fit that billing. 😏
I think Husker fans had their eyes wide-open when Frost was hired. We all knew what Frost was going to bring to the table. The problem -- IMHO -- wasn't unrealistic expectations but the following:
- The Big Ten is not the AAC. Everybody has big and fast defenses with top-notch DCs making them harder to exploit. Also, the type of player Frost liked to recruit to run and catch the ball in the AAC found themselves more injury-prone playing a Big Ten schedule.
- Nebraska's QB. To run on all cylinders, Frost requires a QB who operates a fast-paced O by making split-second decisions designed to keep a defense on its heels. Adrian Martinez was a big, talented athlete and a tough competitor but he couldn't make the quick decisions that you all saw on a regular basis from Milton before his injury.
- The defense Frost inherited was not good. But for all you Chinander-bashers out there, he has turned it around thru recruiting and coaching. Chins had one of the better defenses in the Big Ten last season. If the offense can become more "UCF-like" and stop repeatedly shooting itself in the foot with mind-numbing turnovers and penalties, the Huskers have a shot at turning things around this season.
I think the weather dictates a style of football more than an opponent. Harder to throw 60 yard passes in snow than 70 with a little breeze. So hand offs up middle gets called more often. Less plays called and the clock runs more. The teams with good QBs still tend to win. Ohio State for example. B1G defenses aren’t usually stopping them.
THIS! ^^^^^
The situation Midwestern teams experience more often in November is cold, gusty winds than snow.
These are excuses. Made to fit a narrative. If Nebraska is a blue blood then they should have no issue recruiting the players needed. But Frost has not. Nebraska has all the money and resources and advantages of the blue blood they get the recruits to compete in the B10 while UCF only had the resources to get AAC level recruits to compete in the AAC so that is a wash. Ironically what Frost wanted to do was to recreate UCF at Nebraska. Took the entire staff, coaches trainers, analysts etc.. Took some of the marketing, the fast pace offense etc.. But it did not fly. Why? Because that is not Nebraska and Nebraska was not going to let him turn it into a UCF vibe. He ended up halfway between the two.
If by eyes wide open you mean coming onto this board stating that "if Frost could turn a second rate UCF program into a champion, then he should be competing for B10 championships within 2 years" Then yes they were wide open.
UCF in 2017 was special. It was just as much UCF and left overs from GOL as it was Frost. Nebraska fans need to recognize that. Can Frost succeed at Nebraska? This year will tell. Maybe, just maybe, he was not the right fit for Nebraska as a coach. That does not make UCF a better program, it just makes it a better fit program for Frost as a coach.
I think this is the key. Nebraska has to get the offense rolling.
Frost's four straight losing seasons at Nebraska have produced only 15 wins.
4-8
5-7
3-5
3-9
Ironically... Vegas has Nebraska winning 7.5 games next season, only one less than UCF.
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Think that would have gotten him canned here at UCF? Be a weird thing to watch and debate after the 2017 run.I think this is the key. Nebraska has to get the offense rolling.
Frost's four straight losing seasons at Nebraska have produced only 15 wins.
4-8
5-7
3-5
3-9
Ironically... Vegas has Nebraska winning 7.5 games next season, only one less than UCF.
2024 College Football Win Totals Odds | NCAAF Win Total Odds
2024 College Football Win Total Odds for regular season over/under win totals at VegasInsider along with more NCAAF Betting Resources.
I never expected Frost to win the Big 10 and make it to the playoffs, but I really thought he would eat least turn Nebraska into a perennial 9-4 or 8-5 team.
So far in his first 4 seasons Frost is 15-29. His best season was 5-7.
In the 3 seasons before Frost, Mike Riley went 19-19, with a 9-4 season his 2nd season.
Before Riley, Bo Pelini went 66-28 in 7 seasons. All 7 seasons he had a 10-4 or 9-4 record. He went 10-4 in 3 seasons and 9-4 in 4 seasons.
A great coach should at least be able break .500 at Nebraska. Frost hasn’t come close.
So far in his first 4 seasons Frost is 15-29. His best season was 5-7.
In the 3 seasons before Frost, Mike Riley went 19-19, with a 9-4 season his 2nd season.
Before Riley, Bo Pelini went 66-28 in 7 seasons. All 7 seasons he had a 10-4 or 9-4 record. He went 10-4 in 3 seasons and 9-4 in 4 seasons.
A great coach should at least be able break .500 at Nebraska. Frost hasn’t come close.
Whether his tenure at Nebraska works out or not, Frost had built a monster at UCF -- and he knew it. Hell, even with 6 million on the table to coach his alma mater, it took some final arm-twisting from Tom Osborne to finally get him to say yes. It would have been interesting to see what the Knights would've done if he'd committed to staying in Orlando. Heupel took over and had a 12-1 and 10-3 record following on the heels of the Knights 2017 run. You think that was all Josh Heupel?
Interestingly, after his impressive start, Heupel quickly went down hill once he wasn't riding Frost's coattails. His last Knight team was 6-4 before he left for Tennessee.
No Husker fan is happy with where the program is right now. But to be fair, Frost inherited a clusterf**k and made some early coaching decisions that didn't help matters. We'll see what this season brings.
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