somehow it was leaked.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html
George Floyd body cam footage
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I think that had to do more with how the cashier characterized his behavior, but it was definitely the wrong way to initiate the encounter. Its actually kind of hard to believe he was going to be arrested over the 20 dollar bill. Who knows where or how he got it? I tried to deposit one that showed up in our till several years ago. It would have been odd for the teller to call the cops and have me arrested for that.
I guess it'll come out what his behavior was in the store. I'm guessing they felt the need to exercise caution, but the guns drawn very much exacerbated the situation from the get go--perhaps because he was in the middle of doing something illegal in his vehicle? I don't know.
Still doesn't justify a knee on his head that killed him. Why didn't they tase the hell out of him? There were four guys there and no one thought to pull one out to subdue him? Seemed like a textbook time to use one.
It did right in the beginning. The cashier called the cops and described him as being belligerent and refused to give the cigarettes back. Said that he was acting drunk or like he was on drugs.
I wonder how the defense will use the fact that he said "I can't breathe" 2 times prior to having a knee placed on his throat. He said it twice while in the car with no one touching him and the cops trying to tell him that he's fine. The camera also captured his ex doing the "crazy" sign about him when talking to the cops.
None of this changes the fact that the cop w/ the knee on this throat will go to prison but it may change the calculus for the others. It may even make the murder charge seem overboard if there's now a possibility that Floyd was in the process of overdosing on fentanyl before the knee was applied.
Someone leaked this against the law for a reason. At first I thought it was someone with the prosecution (or a sympathizer) who leaked but by the end I was convinced it was the defense leaking it.
None of this changes the fact that the cop w/ the knee on this throat will go to prison but it may change the calculus for the others. It may even make the murder charge seem overboard if there's now a possibility that Floyd was in the process of overdosing on fentanyl before the knee was applied.
Someone leaked this against the law for a reason. At first I thought it was someone with the prosecution (or a sympathizer) who leaked but by the end I was convinced it was the defense leaking it.
Remember that the prosecution has had this the entire time and charged the way they did anyways.
The questions that you’re asking will be answered in court. But agency practices towards the use of tasers to force compliance are different all over.
A guns drawn traffic stop is more commonly known as a felony stop is used when there is an expectation of high risk in approaching the car. Responding to someone on drugs or acting crazy in a car with a bunch of other people in the car may have triggered the risk thinking in the officers’ minds.
The defense is probably going to claim that Chauvin did not kill Floyd. There’s ambiguity in the ME’s report and there are signs of Externally-caused asphyxiation that are missing from Floyd. The trial is going to be very interesting.
I think they'll have a difficult time convincing a jury that Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, especially after the prosecution plays a video of him kneeling on his effing head for 8 minutes and George pleading that he can't breathe. Who knows--I just imagine that in this case, a picture could be far more priceless than an explanation to the contrary.
Um, I think it's a huge stretch that they knew a damn thing about him. And WTF does Covid have to do with anything? Jesus.
He was asymptomatic.
Clearly on drugs? The officers were told he was acting a certain way. That's far from certain.
How could they have had his rap sheet if they didn't even know his name?
You're really reaching here.
I'm guessing that these officers are going to go the same route as the Freddie Grey officers and request a bench trial. That takes the jury pool tainting out of the equation and, most likely, means the trial will focus more on the points of law than the emotions of the situation. Remember that the entire world was sure that the 6 officers in those cases had killed Grey and parts of Baltimore rioted. The prosecutor there charged politically as well and was involved in the investigation. All 6 were either acquitted or had their cases dropped.
This one is different because there is a video and the video looks very bad and the guy with the most charges seems to be a prick. Most people's math on this is as simple police officers restrained guy and guy died; therefore police officers caused the guy's death. Many people get very angry and sometimes violent when anyone suggests that the math isn't necessarily that simple. But being angry and emotional and violent doesn't mean that you're right. There is a possible equation where the police officers restrained the guy and guy died, but guy didn't die from the actions of the police officers. I think this is where the defense will go. So then there is the issue for the officers of whether they took appropriate action afterward and would it have mattered if they had. I think that is where the prosecution will make their best case and it could very well be manslaughter for Chauvin but I'm not really sure that the other 3 will get anything at all.
Did you even watch the body cam footage? He was in there for all of 10 seconds before he flipped out.
I almost look at the other three officers as essentially non-starters. One of them was basically doing crowd control. Ultimately, the other two will probably get nothing either. The focus on Chauvin will probably result in manslaughter, and I am fine with that.
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