Globalist/Liberal Logic

[Bob the Citronaut]

Good: People should pay higher taxes to provide entitlements for the poor and unemployed.

Bad: People should pay more for goods to provide jobs for the poor and unemployed.

Explain the reasoning.

 

[CommuterBob]

Good: Rich People should pay higher taxes to provide entitlements for the poor and unemployed.

Bad: Poor People should pay more for goods to provide jobs for the poor and unemployed.

Explain the reasoning.

FIFY - that explains it.

 

[UCFKnightfan08]

I prefer this example:

Women: good
Gays: good
The religion that stones women and gays: good

I agree the first two are good, they lose me at step 3

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

FIFY - that explains it.

Rich people don't buy more than poor people? Poor people don't have an obligation to support their country?

 

[CommuterBob]

Rich people don't buy more than poor people? Poor people don't have an obligation to support their country?

I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's their logic. Rich have more money and outspend the poor, but they don't always spend it here. And since a disproportionate amount of the income and wealth goes to rich people, forcibly taking it through taxes seems like a good idea to them.

 

[Happy Hands]

Where do titties rank on the good/bad spectrum? I'm probably more of an anarchist that anything, but I love 'em.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Where do titties rank on the good/bad spectrum? I'm probably more of an anarchist that anything, but I love 'em.

Depends on the size, shape and nipple to areola ratio.

 

[Happy Hands]

Depends on the size, shape and nipple to areola ratio.

You're a tittiest. Boobist? Snacktrayist. No, funbagist. Hooterist? The point is that all yum-yum mounds are glorious.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's their logic. Rich have more money and outspend the poor, but they don't always spend it here. And since a disproportionate amount of the income and wealth goes to rich people, forcibly taking it through taxes seems like a good idea to them.

They also believe that a tax break is actuallly, in fact, "giving" people more money. They truly think that confiscating less of someone's earned income is the same as a handout.

Or maybe they don't actually believe that, know it's bullshit, but maintain the talking point for dumb people.

 

[1ofTheseKnights]

Globalist isn't just "liberals" Bush, Ryan the lot of cuckservatives are globalists

 

[UCFKnight85]

Globalist isn't just "liberals" Bush, Ryan the lot of cuckservatives are globalists

Get over your butthurt with Paul Ryan

The guy is the best liaison Trump could ever ask for to Congress

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

We'll have the best, the greatest titties. We need a ban on giant fake tits. Make real boobs great again.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Globalist isn't just "liberals" Bush, Ryan the lot of cuckservatives are globalists

Most Republicans are globalists. I still think I'm sort of a globalist but I've evolved the last year. We can't be isolated but trade needs to be fair. The US shouldn't be supporting other countries with lopsided trade deals when our own country is falling apart. We hold all the cards, it's time to use them.

 

[1ofTheseKnights]

Most Republicans are globalists. I still think I'm sort of a globalist but I've evolved the last year. We can't be isolated but trade needs to be fair. The US shouldn't be supporting other countries with lopsided trade deals when our own country is falling apart. We hold all the cards, it's time to use them.

Good...good

 

[knightsagainstblmandzog]

Liberalism is an incredibly selfish philosophy. Massive government interferences into the lives of free people are enacted to quell the whining of a minority of outspoken failures, and there are ever so many groups of whiny, failure-ridden ones to quell. An ever-increasing quantity of the earnings of working people is taken to ease the lives of people who choose not to work out of laziness, or who cannot work because of personality flaws. What allows lieberals of from libtards to sjws to feminist to sissy regressives to band together is that they are all parasites sharing the same host.

 

[MACHater02]

Most Republicans are globalists. I still think I'm sort of a globalist but I've evolved the last year. We can't be isolated but trade needs to be fair. The US shouldn't be supporting other countries with lopsided trade deals when our own country is falling apart. We hold all the cards, it's time to use them.

Consumers, us, will bear the brunt of that.

 

[goodknightfl]

I prefer this example:

Women: good
Gays: good
The religion that stones women and gays: good

I agree the first two are good, they lose me at step 3

After watching the March on Washington, I no douby #1.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Consumers, us, will bear the brunt of that.

Why don't you care about providing jobs the middle and lower class?

 

[Great2BAKnight2]

Consumers, us, will bear the brunt of that.

Not necessarily.

Planet Money did a podcast about the NAFTA trade deal and one example they pointed out showed how the terms of NAFTA essentially destroyed domestic production of Wool Suits. The story goes that Canada imports wool from Italy tax free while US companies imported wool from Italy with a 30% tariff. Because of the imbalance in raw material taxes, Canada could sell the same suit for significantly less in the US under the NAFTA agreement. The NAFTA US negotiators tried to balance the number of Canadian suits that could be imported tax free with the expected demand in order to keep the US companies competitive. However, they failed in that regard and now Peerless (the Canadian suit company) makes all of the suits for Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren, et al while the US companies went bankrupt. Transcript of the show here: http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415809462

This is a small example but highlights the problems with Free Trade agreements. The trade landscape is far too complicated (i.e. Italian wool import taxes) and fluid to adequately capture all of the variables for a fair deal in all industries with multiple countries. There's a lot of losers on the US side: lower/middle class who lose jobs and small/medium sized business who lose competitive edge; while there's only small positives: big businesses get into new markets which drive earnings growth (which benefits the stockholders - upper middle class and upper class) and prices of some goods go down.

 

[chemmie]

Most Republicans are globalists. I still think I'm sort of a globalist but I've evolved the last year. We can't be isolated but trade needs to be fair. The US shouldn't be supporting other countries with lopsided trade deals when our own country is falling apart. We hold all the cards, it's time to use them.

Why do you hate free trade and the free market?

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Why do you hate free trade and the free market?

I love free trade but what we have with most countries is not free trade. If we had free trade there wouldn't be a $60B a year trade deficit with Mexico. We can build four walls a year with that money.

 

[chemmie]

I love free trade but what we have with most countries is not free trade. If we had free trade there wouldn't be a $60B a year trade deficit with Mexico. We can build four walls a year with that money.

Damn.
I think you actually get dumber every day.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Damn.
I think you actually get dumber every day.

No counter argument? What was wrong with what I said?