And their biggest ally would have been Venezuela. The entire EU was against Russia on this one.
How are you preparing for the upcoming Civil War?
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And their biggest ally would have been Venezuela. The entire EU was against Russia on this one.
There are people in Maine that would prefer the state be a part of Canada. If Canada decides to go ahead and annex Maine then the appropriate response would be "don't escalate things"?
It seems like there was a time in history where an evil dictator invaded another country and everybody tried appeasement. Can't remember how that turned out.
This was 5 years ago, you don't think it turned out well?
And also, if you think Putin is an evil dictator, can you possibly defends Trump's relationship with him? Trump has literally said before that he believes Putin over our own intelligence community.
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When the sanctions amount to a travel ban, and limits on business dealings that affected less than 100 individual citizens and companies in Russia, I would say that isn't much of a response.
Let me get this straight: So we're all to believe that Obama made a self-serving, non-response to Russian aggression which makes Trump's self-serving vs country-serving behaviors that are threatening Congressional impeachment okay?
Oooooooooookay.
That wasn't the question. We are 5 years removed from it. You don't think Ukraine is better off today than it was then? If the answer is yes, then can't the claim be made that the sanctions worked?
They did not have a revolution; their Russian puppet President fled the country after he shot up some protestors, and the Russians responded by invading the Ukraine to punish them. Just because Russia handed out common-folk outfits and made their soldiers take the Russian flag off of their fatigues doesn't mean this was just regular Joes from the Ukrainian country side fighting their own nation. Last I checked, the Ukrainian citizens didn't personally own tanks, anti-air missiles, heavy machine guns, etc
You don't think running off your corrupt president is revolutionary? And you don't think average Joe's were protesting and helped kick much of it off?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_revolution
Regardless, none of what you said really has much to do with my point. The point is the country is in a different place now than it was in 2014, so you can't just say because we sell them weapons now, means we should have in 2014.
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The refusal lasted well into 2015 per this article from then, highlighting that Obama's own Pentagon + D's in congress were adamant that it was time to arm the Ukrainian Army but Obama still refused. By then, the Russians had armored brigades in eastern Ukraine. This refusal continued well into 2016.
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/obama-pressed-on-many-fronts-to-arm-ukraine-115999
And this is probably very telling as to why, complete pandering to the Russians so as not to "upset" them..
“I don’t buy this argument that, you know, us supplying the Ukrainians with defensive weapons is going to provoke Putin,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).
Just a reminder that you people support a guy who is rooting for a civil war because of a lawfully filed legal whistleblower.
This is why we call you inbreds.
This is why we call you inbreds.
You guys crack me up. Do you think any kind of this is going to move quickly?
Trump is going to finish his term and there isn’t a single candidate that’s any better for 2020, so once again more than half of the United States won’t vote
At this point no president affects the daily lives of most Americans, so it’s a complete waste of time to worry about all of this
As long as their isn’t a huge increase in taxes, healthcare doesn’t go to crap and we aren’t getting nuked, life will be the same
Trump is going to finish his term and there isn’t a single candidate that’s any better for 2020, so once again more than half of the United States won’t vote
At this point no president affects the daily lives of most Americans, so it’s a complete waste of time to worry about all of this
As long as their isn’t a huge increase in taxes, healthcare doesn’t go to crap and we aren’t getting nuked, life will be the same
When it comes to characterizing Presidential actions, in the World according to Ucfmikes, Trump has gone from "The Greatest POTUS of All-Time" to "Hey, Presidents don't do anything that affects me."
Aaaaaand that is exactly why he is on ignore. You could not sound more idiotic if you were trying. I really hope, for the sake of our country, that he is just a liberal trying to make MAGAts look dumb, because it is literally painful reading the inbred stuff he posts.
Take Magat , inbred and literal from your vocabulary and you are silenced for eternity
A friend of mine is a dreamer and was really concerned when trump got elected. He was afraid that he would get deported to a country that he left at 5 months old. I told him not to worry about it because whoever the president is, nothing really changes. Outside of Obamacare, I can't think of anything that a president has done that has affected my life.
Kind of like saying that I play Russian roulette and not once has it ever affected my life.
Nice ad hominem. Maybe try debating the actual topic if you want to be taken seriously. Here's a new one for you: hypocrite.
Why must you be so dramatic in your false equivalences? There are all kinds of checks and balances intentionally built into our Republic to ensure that one person does not have the power to act as a monarch or a dictator. Rightly or wrongly, these have been used (and abused in some cases) since Trump came into office. This is how it will be until Congress starts fundamentally changing the system.
No, I know that previous Presidents have pushed the boundaries. I'm just saying that there have been many checks and balances employed since 2016.
It's within their charter though. Of course, when they're focused on impeachment rather than the myriad of other things that are important that they could be spending their time on, I'd say they're abusing our trust more than anything else. This was as much the case in Clinton's day as it is now.
Agree they need to keep the Previn check but when they just make shit up to investors, that is abuse of power.
So the POTUS should just be allow to extort other countries?
No. But a traditional element of a crime of extortion is the extraction of valuables by force or threat. Indeed, the complaint alleged that there was an explicit threat in the phone call. Only, the closest thing that there is to a transcript does not show a threat and the person who would be the victim, President Z of Ukraine, has stated in public that there was no threat. Which blows up your allegation of extortion and you'll have to look elsewhere for your high crime or misdemeanor.
The house jumped the gun on the impeachment, which isn't surprising since the first "Impeach Trump" PAC was registered by a House member about a month after the election and before Trump was sworn in.
Keep chewing on that doggy bone.
Holding up $391 million in military aid to a country worried about Russia sounds pretty damn intimidating to me. And when Zelenskiy mentions to Trump his country wants to buy some U.S. missiles, what's Trump's response? "I'd like you to do me a favor though."
Keep chewing on that doggy bone.
Holding up $391 million in military aid to a country worried about Russia sounds pretty damn intimidating to me. And when Zelenskiy mentions to Trump his country wants to buy some U.S. missiles, what's Trump's response? "I'd like you to do me a favor though."
More lies and bullshit. That favor was utterly unrelated to Biden or even that $391M which did not even come up on that call. You're pushing deliberate lies, again.
The Civil War won't be Democratic or Republican. It will be people shooting each other over food in the coming depression. There's a reason I have 3 acres in remote Alabama. Just need to work on the Solar and Water Tower, along with some security fencing.
this is all you have? typicalI'll take those ladies 10/10 times if faced off against urban hipster liberals
Yes, he’s the greatest POTUS, because we aren’t getting threatened by nukes, like with Obama and North Korea, the economy is great, I have my healthcare insurance, and nothing in my life is changing like with those other idiots that @NinjaKnight and @DaShuckster supported
Hilary Clinton, Obama, and who else?
Oh.., my taxes are down. Real people issues
You have me on ignore, because you’re a left wing radical, unemployed, snowflake, caveman, who’s full of hate filled messages and you put anyone on ignore that tells you what you are.
Additionally, you don’t even realize that half of this board has YOU ON IGNORE, because you’re too stupid to realize it
That’s exactly what I’m trying to say
You can include Dashookster. His life was completely turned upside down on Election Day in 2020.
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