Is Britney Spears’ dad leaving for the judge under a bench in a bus station?
How much money?
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Not much of a Britney fan but when I heard about this thing, I was 100% convinced the judge would put an end her conservatorship. Apparently the judge issued her decision without explanation. This ruling amounts to forced slavery in my book.
It's one thing to have a conservatorship for an elderly dementia parent who is unable to make decisions anymore, it's quite another for a 39 year old woman who earns millions of dollars every year on her own.
If she makes it on her own, why the hell shouldn't she be allowed to spend it on her own? If preventing a non-dementia person from making stupid decisions was a valid reason for setting up a conservatorship, most of us would be living with one and we all make a pittance compared to her.
I have to think this is due to something that isn't public knowledge, which does make her a threat to herself or others. Beyond that, it really doesn't make any sense.
If she was a threat to herself, she should have been institutionalized instead of free to make money for her conservatorship. This makes no sense however you want to slice or dice it.
IDK. She can't even remove her IUD. What kind of a judge says that someone else can be the arbiter of that kind of authority unless there's something else that we don't know.
This is a weird one, for sure.
Yeah, I’m really curious as to how someone can be healthy and well enough to work, and certainly seems coherent when speaking publicly, but still somehow gets stripped of all legal agency over their life, including their own body.
This is now a case that has the public’s attention, and there needs to be some public explanation of why this is still in place. It’s a shameful look.
Hopefully she’s able to go speak before Congress on what’s happening and they can do something. I’m not a big Gaetz fan, but I do hope she accepts his invitation.
There has to be more to this story. She might have a psychological issues that are off the charts. She was nuttier than a shithouse rat in the 2000s with her tv show and other stuff. Maybe daddy knows best…
Is it your stance that anyone with moderate to severe mental health issues (not sure what Britney’s been diagnosed with, and by whom) should have their assets and incomes forcibly turned over to a parent or conservator? That they should also be forced into sterilization through birth control against their will?
Depends on their mental state. I can guarantee you that we don’t know all the details of the case.
Can you clarify at what point you think that level of seizure of assets and income is justified?
If it involves harm to children, self, and others on a repeated basis—tie the bitches’ tubes for all I care.
Maybe they found a handwritten plan from her that says when she gets all of her money, she's gonna buy a black market nuke and blow up DC.
IMO, it would take something on that level for her to not have control of her assets.
Don’t you think some proof these are occurring is appropriate in order to continue the conservatorship?
But I would argue that if her mental state is so fked up that a conservatorship is deemed necessary, why isn’t she institutionalized?
You can’t argue she’s sane enough to continue raking in the dough for Daddy Dearest and the conservatorship’s employees but not sane enough to manage her own affairs.
Yeah, I’m thinking that was like showed to the judge as evidence, and stuff…
What 'stuff' would be compelling enough to maintain the conservatorship yet not rise to the level of her being institutionalized (i.e. a threat to herself or others)?
Personally, that feels like an awfully narrow distinction. She's capable of raking in millions but can't be trusted with her own money??!?
The world is littered with examples of people who blew off their fortunes. Good or bad, that's kind of what this 'free will' business is all about. I'm curious what 'stuff' would have given the judge grounds for continuing her conservatorship.
Whoa! That says all sorts of things ... just wow!
People and family using the state against a fellow citizen in these regards, among others, just screams to this Libertarian that there is something grossly wrong in the US today.
Yikes! UCFBS agreeing with me is enough to cause me to seriously rethink my position.
I'm driven by my ethos... individual freedom and right to self-determination.Yikes! UCFBS agreeing with me is enough to cause me to seriously rethink my position.
Are there police reports? Because if she’s abusing her children and her family is covering it up to keep her out of jail, that’s criminal.
If she’s self-harming, is it enough for her to just be under the watch of her family?
I’m just extremely uncomfortable with the idea someone can be stripped of all their freedom and have their fortune stolen from them by a family member(s) if they suffer from mild to moderate mental illness.
My middle kid literally has half a brain resulting from a massive bleed from meningitis when he was 24 days old. When he turned 18 we went to family court to get him declared incompetent and then subsequently asked the court for guardianship over my own son who clearly is mentally and physically disabled.
I ain't no lawyer here but I truly don't get how this woman in her 30s makes a ton of jack while at the same time a court can strip away many of her rights to the very money she earns. many here have said as much. During the process to declare my son Kyle incompetent and become his guardian ,the court appointed a guardian ad litem to make sure we didn't so anything fishy and to represent Kyle . One would think she would have well paid legal counsel to represent her and fight her rights to run her life as she sees fit.
This is just baffling here . I don't care for her music at all but the woman has rights and the court is stepping all over them.
I ain't no lawyer here but I truly don't get how this woman in her 30s makes a ton of jack while at the same time a court can strip away many of her rights to the very money she earns. many here have said as much. During the process to declare my son Kyle incompetent and become his guardian ,the court appointed a guardian ad litem to make sure we didn't so anything fishy and to represent Kyle . One would think she would have well paid legal counsel to represent her and fight her rights to run her life as she sees fit.
This is just baffling here . I don't care for her music at all but the woman has rights and the court is stepping all over them.
I read somewhere that her conservatorship had to APPROVE any lawyer she hired. Talk about the deck being stacked against you.
That’s the whole fûcking problem here. Her family gets to control all of her money, dictate what medication she takes, choose her doctors, etc.
How does she hire a lawyer if her family (whom she’s essentially trying to sue to get out from under their control) has complete say over whether she can hire someone? Are they going to let her hire a great lawyer to sue them?
I haven't had a donut in a half-decade.
My daily sugar intake is under 25g, carbs under 100g.
That's been my diet since my early 30s.
In all seriousness ... please stop with this, it's getting old.
I exercise more and eat less than a lot of you guys.
I have thick skin, but there are people like myself that have to work with an endochronlogist.
Because 1,200 calorie diets and 1,200 stairs up (400-500 calorie burn) a day, is all we can do to just maintain weight, and is very difficult to lose.
My family has a history of thyroid failure, and my aldosterone is totally f'd up too.
So, I could care less about me, but there are a lot of other people out there I do care about.
We had a friend that was severely mentally ill. Her family had her Baker-acted and she spent a bunch of time in a facility. Doctors released her and all was well for a few days and then she spiraled quickly. Her husband tried to get her committed again but a judge refused. Within days of that decision, our friend drove her car to the top of the Sunshine Skyway bridge and took a final jump off the side.
I’m guessing that there’s more merit to the conservatorship than will ever hit the news.
I’m guessing that there’s more merit to the conservatorship than will ever hit the news.
I have been saying this from the get-go. You have every news organization and bleeding heart commenting on this and they have absolutely no clue what medical evidence was presented to the judge(s). And with HIPAA, we won't ever know. There must have been something she did or some extreme danger she presented to herself or her children that warranted this. And we also don't know what her current mental state is (other than prepared written statements that she reads or that are released by her team of lawyers).
So the ONLY people who can be trusted with Britney Spears’ finances are her parents and family?
It can’t be that she needs a guardian… no, all of her assets have to be managed by someone else and she can only ask for what she wants like a child?
That’s part of what the judicial system has been tasked with figuring out. To this point, they’ve shown that she is not capable and the family is responsible and thus the conservatorship. The way Spears pushes back is through this action and, if she can prove that she no longer needs the conservatorship, then it will be terminated and she’ll be responsible for herself. If she cannot but can prove malfeasance by the current conservator, then it’ll be handed over to the next willing adult relative, such as her sister or an adult child (don’t know how old they are). It’s rare for conservatorship to be granted to a non-relative.
Again (I think now for the third time): I. Don't. Know. Take these questions up with the judge. She was presented with the info and made her decision.
For the sake of this argument, let's assume this to be true.
In the case of your friend, you said she spent time in a mental facility. This certainly would be the appropriate action in Brittney's case too if she was deemed to be a danger to herself or her children -- but that wasn't the case.
Listen, I'm all for preventing a sick person from harming themselves or others. But you would think that anything serious enough to warrant keeping her conservatorship in place should also be reflected in her residence in a mental institution, restrictions on her ability to earn a living, and restrictions on seeing her kids, let along having the joint custody she has of them.
It simply doesn't add up.
Hey genius, do you know what a message board is for?
I don’t have access to the judge, so we get to discuss our thoughts on topics here.
Hey genius, you keep asking the same question. I was hoping it would have registered on the first and second replies.
Take a deep breath. Then repeat...
She has a right to one. I would think she’d have no problem getting a contingency given the potential payoff if there is any merit.
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