If a white woman and a black man had a child
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As much as I get your point, and it is valid, that we 'invent' such 'classification' ...
Progressives are going to label that as 'racist,' even though your point is that the child is innocent, raised to be blind, all while the Progressives and their need for 'classification' is actually more 'racist,' and actually harms the child far more than their parents ever would.
But Progressives will blame parents ... all the way through every state service backed by taxpayer guns ... to ensure all their 'classifications' are enforced.
But also consider that this would be shaped just as much by friends and society at large as it would by ancestral race. I think most of us, no matter what race, arent really connected to the heritage of our ancestors, other than maybe some small family traditions for holidays or something along those lines. But if society looks at someone as being black, then I am going to assume the vast majority of the time that person would also consider themselves black.
Oh, even better ...
Society was 'patting themselves on the back' for voting in the US' first black President ... many Conservatives too. Which brings me to ...
My problem with politicians is that they are affluent and typically career, and hardly represent lays people, or even the people they claim to represent.
Trump dealt with business aspects, and understood the struggles of some business owners, but he was hardly a man who understood what it was like to run a small business, or start it from the ground up.
Obama also dealt with being African-American, and he understood the struggles of some African-Americans, but he was hardly a man who understood what it was like to be from the inner city, and raise himself up and out of it.
And finally, then we have this, which is kinda where my problem really 'kicks in' with Progressives and their 'evaluations' ...
I dont really care all that much about the politics of the issue. The sociological part is what interests me. Think about the last question in the OP and tell me why that isn't really a thing.
Most, yes. But there's one exception ... Native Americans.
The US Constitution not only recognizes them formally as entities, unlike any other nation, but gives them the power to define their citizens. And that's where American ignorance really kicks in.
To call yourself a Native American in the US, and tag and otherwise checkboxes and represent yourself as a 'person of color' as a Native American, yes, you actually need to be a citizen of that nation.
Let's take Liz 'Wilma Mankiller' Warren for example, well published, titled, even tagged ... by her own admission, and finally her own, real 'apology' after 7 years of the US Mass and Social Media 'apologizing' for all her formal, yes, formal documentation, publications and other things stating she was a 'woman of color' and 'Cherokee' ... not just the 'ancestry' claim ...
In the US, by both Constitution and Treaty, you cannot call yourself, say, Cherokee, like you can, say, Irish. It will get you in trouble with the State Department when the Tribes force it, as the 3 recognized Tribes of the Cherokee finally did. It took 'Wilma' there 7 years, but finally she 'woke up' to how wrong she was ... even if the US Mass and Social Media is still apologizing for her, and utterly being the staple 'Ignorance of the White Man.'
I'm glad she did. I wish it wouldn't have taken letters to the State Department, as well as a letter of over 200 tribal leaders, to get her to actually meet with them after 7 years, instead of just getting her 'facts' from the US Media 'echo chamber.' But she did.
To call yourself a Native American in the US, and tag and otherwise checkboxes and represent yourself as a 'person of color' as a Native American, yes, you actually need to be a citizen of that nation.
Let's take Liz 'Wilma Mankiller' Warren for example, well published, titled, even tagged ... by her own admission, and finally her own, real 'apology' after 7 years of the US Mass and Social Media 'apologizing' for all her formal, yes, formal documentation, publications and other things stating she was a 'woman of color' and 'Cherokee' ... not just the 'ancestry' claim ...
In the US, by both Constitution and Treaty, you cannot call yourself, say, Cherokee, like you can, say, Irish. It will get you in trouble with the State Department when the Tribes force it, as the 3 recognized Tribes of the Cherokee finally did. It took 'Wilma' there 7 years, but finally she 'woke up' to how wrong she was ... even if the US Mass and Social Media is still apologizing for her, and utterly being the staple 'Ignorance of the White Man.'
I'm glad she did. I wish it wouldn't have taken letters to the State Department, as well as a letter of over 200 tribal leaders, to get her to actually meet with them after 7 years, instead of just getting her 'facts' from the US Media 'echo chamber.' But she did.
Yes you do have to actually be involved with the real heritage of your ancestors in most Native American tribes! I mean, if it was just 'heredity' ... then I'm Cherokee ... and far more than Liz could ever help to be. But being 1/8th doesn't make me one, I actually have to apply to, say, the Cherokee Nation (1 of the 3 Tribes) and ... more importantly ... be involved, including the real, full heritage that is actually being preserved.
Which brings me to ...
Which is what the fuzz of President Obama is all about. Is he black? Or is he not really black? That's not my question. And goes back to what I said ...
What people are looking for in a leader ... is someone who 'understands them,' from actual 'experience as them.' Obama has some. And he lacks some too.
You're missing the point. Those 'Karen' readers failed to pay attention to her description and read the book thinking she was a poor white girl.
It's one thing to complain about changing the original race of a character from a favorite story (ala 'Annie') but it's quite another to make a fuss when you're too stupid to know the character was Black in the first place.
I'm pretty sure there was a black Annie, but I don't remember anybody complaining about it. Either way, unless it is a historical figure and not a fictional one I can't see why anybody take exception to it.
WTF are you talking about? This came up when I responded to UCFBS's comment about people being mad over Zendaya being as as Spider-man's MJ.
I added takes about the Hunger Games and Disney's remake of Annie. If you don't recall the fuss in some circles over Disney casting a Black girl for the lead, ask me if I care.
BOOM! This is why people of my generation can talk about race in an objective way, and why people of the older generations are racist. @DaShuckster
I don't think any biracial child has a choice to claim White. If they look "biracial" YOU Caucasians will label them "Non-White". If they have all Caucasian features and claim White, then they will end up hearing A LOT of racist comments from White people who don't realize that they are biracial. All that I said in addition to the many UNITED STATES laws that say 1/8th of "negro" blood taints your "Aryan wholesomeness". I hope I answered your question.
Features that will give you better treatment from cops, judges, job interviews, and loan officers
Features in which people do ask you "do you live here" when at a nice Condominium. Features that don't have people lock their car doors as you walk by even though you drive a car that costs $20k more than them. Features that when you are waiting for an Uber at a nice hotel, a lovely White couple does not try to hand you their keys thinking you are valet. Features, that won't get people pissed off if you play a caucasian Mary Jane from Spiderman in a movie b/c your White mother didn't give you enough.......Caucasian features.
They named her Mary Jane. She should’ve been black from the get-go.Features that will give you better treatment from cops, judges, job interviews, and loan officers
Wow, sk8. You're really on a racist roll today.
Keep it up and you'll assume _glaciers and Crazyhole level-status here.
Mayonnaise is good. No one should ever feel bad about that.No I meant small d**ks and the love of Mayonnaise
It's always been a joke I've seen from Black comedians growing up. It's kind of like the fried chicken racist jokes...EVERYBODY eats freakin fried chicken and "most" Black people I know eat Mayo....buuuuuut all of the people I ever met that disliked mayo was black.
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