If GOL retired who would you like to see interviewed for HC
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No offense ... but this is really getting old guys. You take Stanford and put their 2nd QB and 3rd RB in, along with all freshman at wide-out and other handicaps. Seriously, GoL is making this game a "practice" game for our freshmen. That and he's trying to give the defense some rest.
Ok first let me say, I said if GOL retires because its clear Key is not up to the task of being HC. Our O-line was bad last year and our offense sucks this year. However, I'll address your post as I said in another thread. You are only as good as your back-up QB. Every program should have a contingency plan in case their QB goes down. BYU lost their QB last year and still went bowling; Ohio State lost 2 QBs last year and won a National Championship (I guess they should have just given up on the season and made it a "practice season") Moreover, GOL recruited the O-Line, D-Line Etc. so if we didn't have depth at positions I do place it squarely on the head coach and bad recruiting. Wasn't it GOL who hired Paul Ferraro as DC and then revesed the hire to let Summers become our DC. (What did we get for that loyalty? Summers promptly left to become DC at Colorado state and UCF got another lawsuit)
This doesn't even address the fact that Harris looks like he should have been the backup over Schneider from what I've seen tonight. (I think Bo will be a great QB but he needed more time).
Understand, I respect what GOL has done for the program. 4 conference titles. The Liberty Bowl win. The Fiesta Bowl. Graduating players. But if he does retire do you want Key as HC?
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I love how you guys compare us to P5 recruiting classes where 3-stars are the exception, not the norm. We cannot recruit 3-4 star players into the 3rd depth chart like some of the top P5 teams.
GoL does very well and makes do with the type of "UCF players" we bring in. I see a lot of potential out there, kids thrust into their first collegiate game of their lives. It's really good experience for them. And our D did do us proud through most of 3 quarters, but they are just freak'n tired at this point.
Seriously ... this level of non-sense and fantasy logic really needs to go. It's unfair not just to the coaches, but our kids too. Some of you are going after them in your bellyaching, and it's clear, you're just "lashing out." Don't throw it in their direction.
The coaches sign up as a part of their job to deal with fair weather fans who believe we can recruit like Ohio State, and have a 18 year old kid come in and be a superstar off-the-bench at a P5 champion's stadium.
I agree our D-Line did phenomenal tonight for 3 quarters based on the position they were put in. They were on the field consistently. But that was due to bad offensive play calling. Play calling from our HCIW. GOL is 69 and is part time AD, he's had physical ailments before, I don't think it is a fantasy that he might retire this year or take over AD position full time. So the thread is plausible, because if he retires I hope to hell we interview and just don't give the HC position to Key
Ummm, no, sorry, other than agreeing the D was tired. The expectations on young men these day are unrealistic. This is what you do when you have limited experience, you make them learn it. You can't expect them to go out and perform, running a deep playbook and otherwise run the offense like they are in their 3rd year.
and how does asking if GOL retires who would you interview equate in any way with I don't support the players?
If this is the extent to your logical reasoning it makes me sad to think you graduated from UCF.
If this is the extent to your logical reasoning it makes me sad to think you graduated from UCF.
Did you read some of the comments, as well as recognize what you're saying? It's so easy to armchair what a freshmen can and cannot handle. Take even Bortles' first, partial and planned time off-the-bench in 2011, and what they had him run.
Seriously guys ... some of you live in a fantasy world.
and again read what I wrote, I didn't say we needed to open up the playbook or run a deep playbook. How about not run on every single first down or god forbid run a screen pass to slow their defense down. Maybe run a play to keep the defense honest not keying in on your star players and getting them injured. Maybe you've heard what the definition of insanity is?
So ... the playcalling is what is getting our boys injured? WTF?!
Seriously ... you guys are in butthurt mode. You had expectations, maybe just started giving to the program, and now you're upset with the product. Get over it.
Some of you are blaming our coaches, which is fine. But then you reach into the fantasyland on expectations, recruiting and other things, it gets old.
Furthermore, GoL is making the kids learn the system ... the freshmen out there, the ones that weren't scheduled to be put in for a quarter, like even Bortles was in 2011 at times, to "ween him" into the system. That's what GoL is doing, impromptu. He's making them learn under fire, but making it a learning experience, not a scrambling one.
And a few of you have gone even farther. lawknight, check some of the subjects and comments in various threads. It's pathetic what people are doing to our student-athletes right now.
Lawknight, I don't take issue with the thread topic, nor should anyone else. It has been rumored that GOL might step down at season's end. I personally am a fan of the coach and his style of play (maybe not as successful, but very similar to Saban's philosophy). But coach is getting up there in years, and I think it is reasonable to think he might consider retirement in the next few years. So to answer the thread question some names I like: Houston Nutt- very successful with less talent, Steve Mariucci- not sure he would come back to the college game or to a mid level program, Mark Hudspeth, Matt Campbell.
All that being said, I do take issue with the comparison to Ohio State. When Braxton Miller got hurt, JT Barrett had I think 8 days to prepare for the first game, which they won because they were more talented. If you go back and look at their schedule, what team were they not head and shoulders more talented than until they played Alabama. Enter Cardell Jones. When he came into the game for Ohio State against Minnesota, he wasn't making his first appearance for the Buckeyes. They had several blowouts before that for him to get some experience. It also wasn't his first year in the program. Also, have you seen Ohio State play. Is there anybody on our roster who could play for them? I don't think we have one guy who would sniff the field. So using Ohio State as an example is a bad example. For BYU, what is the backup, 22 years old. Speaking of BYU, are you freakin' kidding me. Two weeks in a row.
As far as going bowling, maybe we will, maybe we won't, but aren't you excited about seeing how our young guys develop this year? I thought our o-line played much better tonight than they did last week, against a superior opponent. They opened up more holes and had quite a few 3 and 4 yard runs than they did last week. How many D's are we going to see the rest of the year that are as good as the one we saw tonight? Temple and South Carolina come to mind, maybe Cincy. I give us a punchers chance in each of those games, especially if the young QB's get a little better each week. Come the end of the season, if we get a little bit better each week, we will be a decent football team, probably bowling, but with a boat load of experience headed into next season, which is the season I have us pegged at making a big run.
All that being said, I do take issue with the comparison to Ohio State. When Braxton Miller got hurt, JT Barrett had I think 8 days to prepare for the first game, which they won because they were more talented. If you go back and look at their schedule, what team were they not head and shoulders more talented than until they played Alabama. Enter Cardell Jones. When he came into the game for Ohio State against Minnesota, he wasn't making his first appearance for the Buckeyes. They had several blowouts before that for him to get some experience. It also wasn't his first year in the program. Also, have you seen Ohio State play. Is there anybody on our roster who could play for them? I don't think we have one guy who would sniff the field. So using Ohio State as an example is a bad example. For BYU, what is the backup, 22 years old. Speaking of BYU, are you freakin' kidding me. Two weeks in a row.
As far as going bowling, maybe we will, maybe we won't, but aren't you excited about seeing how our young guys develop this year? I thought our o-line played much better tonight than they did last week, against a superior opponent. They opened up more holes and had quite a few 3 and 4 yard runs than they did last week. How many D's are we going to see the rest of the year that are as good as the one we saw tonight? Temple and South Carolina come to mind, maybe Cincy. I give us a punchers chance in each of those games, especially if the young QB's get a little better each week. Come the end of the season, if we get a little bit better each week, we will be a decent football team, probably bowling, but with a boat load of experience headed into next season, which is the season I have us pegged at making a big run.
Dude ... every single example of his was comparing to someone with actual experience, more years and/or other factors (let alone recruiting ranking). Probably the main issue, continually, was comparing "newer starters" (who often had several games experience aggregate) with someone who was throwing their very first attempt in college.
GoL wasn't dumb. He put a top 10 pocket passer at the #2, because he was the better option than all the rest. He also had a #3 who also has promise too. We are extremely young, #3 in all of FBS ... before anyone got injured.
I still cannot believe he even argued to put someone in that had a single half start, and quickly replaced, as a better option. I'm not naming the kid because it's not fair to him, but he's been moved to the WR position, not just because he's at least #4 in talent, but his experience is next to nothing. I still cannot believe he said that.
This is pretty much what I cannot stand about the on-a-whim type of armchair coaching. He did not make one single, effective, logical argument on the QB depth ... and even tried to say no one was addressing it. It's pretty much argue-by-ignorance and lack of knowledge about our program.
But I guess winning something like the Fiesta Bowl draws them out, so we should expect more of them too.
I went to the Boise State and Houston Rivals pages and looked at their recruits. They have the same talent we have.
And ... ? Your point is ... ?
Houston has had some poor years at times, and medicore in others. Do you think it might have been because they too had younger teams in those years and/or had key injuries? So, that's what we're talking about. UCF is going to have some of those years. Houston certainly has.
Boise? No question ... 17 years straight, they've put it together, they've gotten it done. We're not there yet.
Anyways let's get back to your topic before the troll arrived as your topic is interesting. I'd like to see Godsey, Spavital, Scottie Montgomery, Rhett Lashlee, Tyson Helton, Pruitt interviewed.
Take GOL's schlong out of you mouth for 5 seconds and you'll see what a worthless bag of air he is to our program. It is absurd how low your expectations for someone we pay $2 million is. The only metric in football that matters is W and L so that is what you are rated against. Getting curb stomped by a.pathetic Stanford team is not performing.
If we're going for an experienced guy, a good realistic name I'd like to see is Ed Orgeron. He's currently the d-line coach at LSU, and I think he did a great job as the interim HC at USC given the circumstances.
Craig bohl. The guy who left north dakota state with 3 national titles. He's at wyoming and i can't imagine why nobody else would have rolled the dice with him. Wyoming is horrible and poaching him wouldn't be a problem. I gotta question why he'd take thst job, though. How do you "lure" recruits to play in Wyoming....you can't. Somehow he got the job done being in north dakota, though.
Not bad options, but you have to be prepared to be a stepping stone for them. UCF isn't the destination for them, especially as a G5 program. If we were P5, we might be a good long term option. GOL has been the exception to this because of the stage of his career he was in when we hired him. He also had the resume thing hanging over his head.
Donald Trump for HC! He would be the "winningest coach ever". We would win so much we would get tired of winning. He would be HUGE!.
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That was good Knightraveler.
His post game press conference would be entertaining. "Taggart is a stupid, stupid, stupid coach. The pirate ship is stupid. Calling girls bulls is also stupid. "
We are going to make ucf great again.
The money isn't bad considering job security is better too. No state income tax. Plenty of coaches would like to setup shop in orlando for a long time. That clown in Tampa would of stayed forever.
