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Jack of All Trades...

Master of none! I think this old saying encapsulates what we have in Gus.

Question I had when we hired him: Why would we hire the coach of a team we defeated, even if it
was the biggest game in our history?
He wasn’t my ideal guy either. But I thought he could change and be good with a change of scenery. Nope. I’m waiting for our next hire to be some coach we beat head to head.
 
Master of none! I think this old saying encapsulates what we have in Gus.

Question I had when we hired him: Why would we hire the coach of a team we defeated, even if it
was the biggest game in our history?
That was exactly what I said, " Why would we want to hire a coach we embarassed in the Peach Bowl? I thought he was old and out of date then. Then I got charmed after hearing him speak a few times, recruiting looked better but then the games came and I saw the guy from the Peach Bowl. Gus the Bust, I'm off the bus!
 
He wasn’t my ideal guy either. But I thought he could change and be good with a change of scenery.
I never thought anything, other than he probably wouldn't leave us, and would retire from us. That was it. Here were my actual words, 2021 Feb 21, in Brandonland (Dungeon).

'I'm just glad we have a coach that is likely going to retire from us ... at least if we're not stupid and don't start screaming for his head. I really hope our fans don't start that. He's 55 and wants to remain thru retirement.
I think the only reason he leaves us by 2025 or so is because the CFP doesn't expand, and we're still not getting in to the final 4. That would suck, and at some point, Gus might 'get the itch' again.
Otherwise, if the CFP expands to 8 and/or UCF moves up by either play or to a P5 ... I never see him leaving. I just don't. Or if he leaves, it'll be NFL or something, but he doesn't seem to be that type that wants to go Pro.'

The only coach I could be blamed for wanting quite heavily, was Frost. If Frost did crappy, then that would be on me. Although the one coach I didn't want quite heavily, was Babers. Had Babers done great at 'Cuse, that would also be on me. Luckily, the opposite happened.

I'm a ball control, defense guy, so I liked GOL, and we should have let him retire after 2013, like he wanted. Then the whole HCIW demand happened, and the rest is history. I thought Richt might be best for existing GOL players, but if we went offense-oriented, I was big on Frost.

I prefer P5 coordinators, not MAC, C-USA or other G5 HC ... not even the AAC now, since they are no better than the SunBelt or MWC, and not far from the MAC or C-USA. Auburn went and got themselves one of those, and then fired him. Florida has had a number too.

Now Auburn has an anti-Gus in Freeze who throws kids under-the-bus, and Auburn wishes they had our recruiting praise ... recruits and their parents hate Freeze, and his own, former players are lambasting him on social media. Gus never has that problem, and even Prime praised him.

But people will probably push Gus out, and maybe we'll stick with Tim, but then they'll kick Tim out in a year or two, and we'll destroy any loyalty we were known for. It's the new way. No more GOL like days. And coaches will use us as well as a stepping stone again. UCF will no longer be a place where potential coaches will feel safe.

With the Hittman gone, and whinny fans that cannot be objective about Heupel v. Gus, and how Heupel brought us down, and how Heupel started with everything while Gus started with 70% of Huepel's recruits lost, but Gus still got us to a CCG by year 2.

We're just running into the same problems with TCU and Utah had when they elevated.

But even last year we lost 5 of our 6 games by a single score. A very healthy JRP would have made won many of those. But people don't want to even accept that JRP was a great RPO QB at the college level. They will never admit such things. Just like they don't praise when a great result happens.

They only want to blame when things go wrong.
 
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That was exactly what I said, " Why would we want to hire a coach we embarassed in the Peach Bowl? I thought he was old and out of date then. Then I got charmed after hearing him speak a few times, recruiting looked better but then the games came and I saw the guy from the Peach Bowl. Gus the Bust, I'm off the bus!
I heard that he was the inventor of the quick everything that Scott Frost was doing and that he was a genius play caller. Well, I guess just like KJ Jefferson, it was all a flop :-(
 
I never thought anything, other than he probably wouldn't leave us, and would retire from us. That was it. Here were my actual words, 2021 Feb 21, in Brandonland (Dungeon).

'I'm just glad we have a coach that is likely going to retire from us ... at least if we're not stupid and don't start screaming for his head. I really hope our fans don't start that. He's 55 and wants to remain thru retirement.
I think the only reason he leaves us by 2025 or so is because the CFP doesn't expand, and we're still not getting in to the final 4. That would suck, and at some point, Gus might 'get the itch' again.
Otherwise, if the CFP expands to 8 and/or UCF moves up by either play or to a P5 ... I never see him leaving. I just don't. Or if he leaves, it'll be NFL or something, but he doesn't seem to be that type that wants to go Pro.'

The only coach I could be blamed for wanting quite heavily, was Frost. If Frost did crappy, then that would be on me. Although the one coach I didn't want quite heavily, was Babers. Had Babers done great at 'Cuse, that would also be on me. Luckily, the opposite happened.

I'm a ball control, defense guy, so I liked GOL, and we should have let him retire after 2013, like he wanted. Then the whole HCIW demand happened, and the rest is history. I thought Richt might be best for existing GOL players, but if we went offense-oriented, I was big on Frost.
Ball control offense is a dying concept. I do agree with you that GOL always had our defenses prepared and that's where we need to head back to in the B12.
I prefer P5 coordinators, not MAC, C-USA or other G5 HC ... not even the AAC now, since they are no better than the SunBelt or MWC, and not far from the MAC or C-USA. Auburn went and got themselves one of those, and then fired him. Florida has had a number too.

Now Auburn has an anti-Gus in Freeze who throws kids under-the-bus, and Auburn wishes they had our recruiting praise ... recruits and their parents hate Freeze, and his own, former players are lambasting him on social media. Gus never has that problem, and even Prime praised him.

But people will probably push Gus out, and maybe we'll stick with Tim, but then they'll kick Tim out in a year or two, and we'll destroy any loyalty we were known for. It's the new way. No more GOL like days. And coaches will use us as well as a stepping stone again. UCF will no longer be a place where potential coaches will feel safe.
We're in a power conference and can pay $5M+ in salary and a have a clear path to the CFP, but we're gonna be stepping stone? Why would a coach not feel safe? We don't fire people left and right like other programs.
With the Hittman gone, and whinny fans that cannot be objective about Heupel v. Gus, and how Heupel brought us down, and how Heupel started with everything while Gus started with 70% of Huepel's recruits lost, but Gus still got us to a CCG by year 2.

We're just running into the same problems with TCU and Utah had when they elevated.

But even last year we lost 5 of our 6 games by a single score. A very healthy JRP would have made won many of those. But people don't want to even accept that JRP was a great RPO QB at the college level. They will never admit such things. Just like they don't praise when a great result happens.

They only want to blame when things go wrong.
I disagree completely. The defense lost us a lot of those games.
 
Ball control offense is a dying concept. I do agree with you that GOL always had our defenses prepared and that's where we need to head back to in the B12.
It depends. We can get size in a Power conference now. that said ...

We're in a power conference and can pay $5M+ in salary and a have a clear path to the CFP, but we're gonna be stepping stone? Why would a coach not feel safe? We don't fire people left and right like other programs.
We're not the SEC. And we also don't have our full share yet.

I disagree completely. The defense lost us a lot of those games.
Under Heupel too.
 
I know that y'all don't listen, BUT...

THE RULES OF CFB HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE GOL DAYS.

There are stringent limits on contact and practice time. If Gus coached under the rules of the GOL days, UCF would play a lot tougher brand of football.
 
I know that y'all don't listen, BUT...

THE RULES OF CFB HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE GOL DAYS.

There are stringent limits on contact and practice time. If Gus coached under the rules of the GOL days, UCF would play a lot tougher brand of football.
That could be true. But same rules as other coaches right now. It’s turned into a diva sport. Diva players. It’s hard for old school coaches to deal with today’s players. Saban quit. He still has it. Just can’t deal with the kids of today.
 
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That could be true. But same rules as other coaches right now. It’s turned into a diva sport. Diva players. It’s hard for old school coaches to deal with today’s players. Saban quit. He still has it. Just can’t deal with the kids of today.
I would lean toward saying today's game is about having the best athletes, not the best coaches. sabahr didn't win all of those mythical NCs because he was the best coach. He had the best players. When he no longer had the best players....
 
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Here is what put me over the top...ball on 1 yard line with less than 1 minute in half. We have 2 QBs who can run up the middle and get us away from end zone but gus puts in freshman who throws a pick. Was Gus afraid of pulling QB and replacing him with one of other 2 QBs or worse does he never practice direct snaps to QBs. This is one of many crazy calls by Gus. We are probably stuck with him until his contract is up. It seems worthless to say anything else at this point. We have excellent roster by the way.
 
Here is what put me over the top...ball on 1 yard line with less than 1 minute in half. We have 2 QBs who can run up the middle and get us away from end zone but gus puts in freshman who throws a pick. Was Gus afraid of pulling QB and replacing him with one of other 2 QBs or worse does he never practice direct snaps to QBs. This is one of many crazy calls by Gus. We are probably stuck with him until his contract is up. It seems worthless to say anything else at this point. We have excellent roster by the way.
It’s almost always a direct snap to QB. You meaning under center? Under center sneak/ tush push would have given more room. But in either case it shouldn’t have been over middle. Screen or sideline route would have been ok. The real blame is whoever put the returner back there and didn’t tell him to down ball in endzone. Gus wasn’t even watching again. Because he was worried about play calls again. How many times can he say that and not realize he isn’t a HC?
 
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I would lean toward saying today's game is about having the best athletes, not the best coaches. sabahr didn't win all of those mythical NCs because he was the best coach. He had the best players. When he no longer had the best players....
U r an idiot.
Btw Auburn has been paying players for decades. They were ahead of the curve before it became legal.
 
I would lean toward saying today's game is about having the best athletes, not the best coaches. sabahr didn't win all of those mythical NCs because he was the best coach. He had the best players. When he no longer had the best players....
I defend Gus -- well, not so much Gus, but I'm anti-fire-at-will -- a lot. But Gus has done far less the past 2 years, with far more talent than most of the teams we've played.

He's been average at best, below average consistently, since we joined the Big XII. If he doesn't put it together by next year, even I'm going to start seriously looking if he should even be here for 2026.

And I'm extremely loyal.
 
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