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Ladies & Gentlemen, I think we have a Quarterback!!

The numbers are great, but seeing him throw in person makes me ill. You're held in suspense on every throw; especially when he side arms it and it floats in the air like it does.

Not bashing the kid, but this performance was more due to UConn's secondary being bad than anything else. Quite a few of those balls should not have been completed.

Good win, glad we got it, but we got work to do with Milton and how he plays.
 
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The numbers are great, but seeing him throw in person makes me ill. You're held in suspense on every throw; especially when he side arms it and it floats in the air like it does.

Not bashing the kid, but this performance was more due to UConn's secondary being bad than anything else. Quite a few of those balls should not have been completed.

Good win, glad we got it, but we got work to do with Milton and how he plays.
Agreed. The side release kills me. He's already in the shotgun and has to step back 5-7 steps just to see over the line and then does the whole reverse spin Johnny Manziel thing that doesn't always work.

Kid's got an arm and lots of fire, but I don't see him being the starter 4 years. The next kid with comparable talent and a normal adult size will take his job.
 
Agreed. The side release kills me. He's already in the shotgun and has to step back 5-7 steps just to see over the line and then does the whole reverse spin Johnny Manziel thing that doesn't always work.

Kid's got an arm and lots of fire, but I don't see him being the starter 4 years. The next kid with comparable talent and a normal adult size will take his job.
Really? I mean a few months out of high school, he's winning games for us.....and you don't see him as our QB for 3 more years?
He scrambles awesomely and has a soft touch on the ball when needed. Hmmm. :)
 
The numbers are great, but seeing him throw in person makes me ill. You're held in suspense on every throw; especially when he side arms it and it floats in the air like it does.

Not bashing the kid, but this performance was more due to UConn's secondary being bad than anything else. Quite a few of those balls should not have been completed.

Good win, glad we got it, but we got work to do with Milton and how he plays.
Physically ill? you can't be serious...what do you prefer a guy to sit in the pocket with a porous OLine throwing uncatchable bullets, not moving the chains, and still throwing 2 interceptions by the time the game is over?

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let's compare Milton to 2 QBs that are considered the best in the Conference vs UCONN & with Olines and running games that are more reliable than UCF's vs big defensive fronts

Houston Senior QB Greg Ward Jr(game in Houston weather):
32-38, 389 YDS, 3 TD
65 yds rushing

USF Junior QB Q. Flowers(game in Tampa weather)
23-37, 213 YDS, 2 TD, 2 INT
157 yards rushing

So a True Freshman on the road in cold, wet, and windy conditions with a suspect Oline and no spring ball. I wouldn't count on a 6'3" QB walking on campus and automatically stealing the QB job from him. Holman 'looked the part' and you know the story with him. Nothing is for certain but the fact that he still keeps his eyes downfield while moving around behind the line of scrimmage is a very good sign in his potential(passes to 9 different receivers). There are Seniors that don't do that.
 
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Really? I mean a few months out of high school, he's winning games for us.....and you don't see him as our QB for 3 more years?
He scrambles awesomely and has a soft touch on the ball when needed. Hmmm. :)
I said he's got potential, but 0-12 makes him look better than what he really is. He's the best option we have this year. If he's still the best option we have 3 years from now, then we're not recruiting right.
 
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Listen, I'm happy we have him, and he's gotten us a couple of wins.I love his scrambling ability. Let be clear. I'm just simply saying that he needs to work on his delivery, and decision making and he will be even better.
 
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Milton moved up considerably in the national stats in rating, completion percentage. His TD to INT ratio is great, too.
This was his first cold weather and also a major wind that affected accuracy.
Yet he completed 64% of his passes and only that one late sack. He even showed he can zip the ball a la Holman to a receiver.
He spread it around and found secondary receivers that he hadn't been doing before.
Finally, escaping a constant rush and learning to throw it away was major progress.
 
Really? I mean a few months out of high school, he's winning games for us.....and you don't see him as our QB for 3 more years?
He scrambles awesomely and has a soft touch on the ball when needed. Hmmm. :)

3 more years? I say one more tops (Marvin Washington will redshirt while Darriel Mack holds the clipboard as #2) But once Mack and Washington become the 1-2 punch, Milton will be looking for a nice MAC school to transfer to.
 
He's the best we got for this season. It'll be an open battle next season and if someone clearly plays better, they will see the field.
 
When Darriel Mack and Marvin Washington step onto campus, Milton will be looking for a nice MAC school to transfer to.
We'll have to see. Most top schools try to recruit 5 top QBs, knowing that it's such a crap shoot. Quarterback success has less to do with physical traits than any other position. More so today than ever. That's why several ranked teams are starting frosh QBs. That never happened before.
 
I said he's got potential, but 0-12 makes him look better than what he really is. He's the best option we have this year. If he's still the best option we have 3 years from now, then we're not recruiting right.
Danny Weurffel didn't have the worlds best technique either, and lobbed the ball a lot. He made up for it by understanding UF's offense inside and out. Let the kids battle and whoever wins, wins. As we all well know, Holman has a cannon but he just didn't seem to soak in this new offense.
 
Danny Weurffel didn't have the worlds best technique either, and lobbed the ball a lot. He made up for it by understanding UF's offense inside and out. Let the kids battle and whoever wins, wins. As we all well know, Holman has a cannon but he just didn't seem to soak in this new offense.
yeah there are plenty of QBs that won big in College with funny mechanics
 
I guess MM is the man to beat. If a larger guy can come in with better mechanics....so be it. For next year and possibly 2018 I see MM just getting better. Although I will say we thought the same of Godfrey....and look what happened :)
 
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I guess MM is the man to beat. If a larger guy can come in with better mechanics....so be it. For next year and possibly 2018 I see MM just getting better. Although I will say we thought the same of Godfrey....and look what happened :)
Godfrey was electric as a runner -- scary! Milton's speed and moves got him lots of run yardage in high school, but he's not fast or elusive enough to evade top college defenders (as yet). His 61 yd run was straight against Temple. High school clips had him constantly reversing to a super-deep drop, which he cannot get away with in college ball. Just glad he's learned to eliminate the sacks this week despite a persistent blitz and no run game.
 
I guess MM is the man to beat. If a larger guy can come in with better mechanics....so be it. For next year and possibly 2018 I see MM just getting better. Although I will say we thought the same of Godfrey....and look what happened :)
Godfrey was asked to play in a phone booth offense that didn't fit his skill set and he didn't have the deep ball accuracy/touch that we've seen with Milton so far
 
It seems he's going to make an awful lot of amazing plays and also some boneheaded ones that make you scratch your head. But that's kind of in the image of his coach, who wants this team to be fearless and explosive. Frost is also going to do a lot of things that gets you amazed and/or pissed depending on if it works or not (as we've already seen). Milton seems like a good kid and willing to learn. Will be a big offseason for him to bulk up, work on throwing mechanics, and get a little better feel for some of these option plays that have been ugly at times. His size concerns me particularly from a durability standpoint, but I'm happy to have him. What an exciting player to watch and a cool story that he came all this way to play for the Knights. I can't believe some would already be prognosticating a transfer.
 
It's fun to get excited, especially after last year and previous, but he's probably not going to win more than Holman did his first season. Yep, a different situation, but way too early to think Milton's starting the next 3 years. I hope so, just as much as I hoped Holman was going to have a great year this year, but we're getting the attention of less brittle QBs who may come in and win the job. Plus, the rest of the year we're going to need more than 25 points a game.
 
Wow this debate swings extremely far on both sides- some saying he will be a 3 year starter some saying he will be transferring to a MAC school? He's started what 3 games his entire college career- can we honestly make any legitimate assessment of where he will be next year or the year after yet? Pump the breaks. The kid has potential - could regress or he could be our next legit starting QB.
 
I'm not sold on any of these kids, tbh. I see potential, I see talent, but their performance for the most part has been up and down. There's been more good than bad, hence more wins than loses at this point, but this is year one. I'm not buying anything this year. We'll see about next.
 
I'm not sold on any of these kids, tbh. I see potential, I see talent, but their performance for the most part has been up and down. There's been more good than bad, hence more wins than loses at this point, but this is year one. I'm not buying anything this year. We'll see about next.
Bye. See you next year or the when you are ready to buy in. We'll continue to give our unqualified support because that's what loyal fans do.
 
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Bye. See you next year or the when you are ready to buy in. We'll continue to give our unqualified support because that's what loyal fans do.
What the fukc are you talking about? How many miles have you traveled for away games this season so far? I'm going on 1,600+. I moved away yet continue to buy my season tickets and donate to the program. You wanna talk to me about unqualified support? What the fukc does that even mean? LOL, get the fukc out of here with that bullshit.

I love this team and this program. I'm also a realist, hence why, while most people lost their shit over our loses to Maryland and Temple, all I kept saying was "this is year one". Do you know what year one stands for in production terms? Do you understand the situations that come with a first run of anything, which was the analogy that I was making? You don't buy anything year one; you let other people buy and figure out the quirks and then you buy the model with all the improvements/corrections. That doesn't mean you didn't believe in the product from day one, you were just being business savvy.

I see now why most people on this forum think you're stupid.
 
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Some people will never be satisfied. The grass is always greener and all that. MM is having a fine Fresh year. Like others I am reminded of Godfry in his freshman year. He was electric. But eventually teams figured out how to contain him inside the pocket and forced him to throw. Like MM he was a little undersized but could not adapt. Of course that was in the pro style offense. But the end result was that he was ineffective in his sophomore year. Maybe Frost's offense will hamper some of this but I have to think that eventually they are going to watch enough film to see how MM scrambles back and then pivots to the opposite side to avoid the rush. there is only so much of that you can get away with.

I was pleased to see MM throwing the ball against Uconn. It is great to have an exciting QB. Why worry about next season when there is still so much of this one left?
 
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While he's definitely not the worst ever, it bothers me that at least 5 times per game, he tucks tail and runs 15-20 yards toward the opposite end zone.

It could definitely be worse and I will talk out both sides of my mouth here:
- He's young and could really develop into something special.
- Many of us are looking at this season through glasses fogged by 0-12 and an arguably better, at least thus far, 2016 than we expected.
 
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While he's definitely not the worst ever, it bothers me that at least 5 times per game, he tucks tail and runs 15-20 yards toward the opposite end zone.

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I agree that this is not necessarily a good thing. He has been able to get away with it so far but eventually defenses will prey on this. If he can continue to throw the ball however, that will stymie some of the pressure from the outside and allow him to escape the pocket when he needs
 
Don't know about that. We seem to be the only ones in the AAC with any defense.

UCF might have the most experienced defense in AAC this year...with so many 4th/5th year players starting.

Next year will be a whole new ball of wax for the D...while almost all of the offense will return.
 
3 more years? I say one more tops (Marvin Washington will redshirt while Darriel Mack holds the clipboard as #2) But once Mack and Washington become the 1-2 punch, Milton will be looking for a nice MAC school to transfer to.

I have a feeling Washington will be a DT when it's all said and done.
 
I'm not sold on any of these kids, tbh. I see potential, I see talent, but their performance for the most part has been up and down. There's been more good than bad, hence more wins than loses at this point, but this is year one. I'm not buying anything this year. We'll see about next.
Are you not aware of the rule of
many on this board that you can't give your unbiased opinion, but only talk sweet things and give positive energy when talking about UCF payers. They are fragile creatures and you may hurt their feelings. What kind of a fan are you??? Nobody cares that you spend hundreds or thousands traveling per year to games and bleed black and gold.

Ugh! Doesn't that drive you nuts?
 
Teams definitely figured out Godfrey and that led to his downfall,
However, with Milton, the system is different, he's a step quicker and more decisive IMO, and he's a better passer who asseses the field better and is less prone to INTs. He will be fine.
 
Teams definitely figured out Godfrey and that led to his downfall,
However, with Milton, the system is different, he's a step quicker and more decisive IMO, and he's a better passer who asseses the field better and is less prone to INTs. He will be fine.

Actually, I think its the opposite...as when Godfrey decided to run...most of the times...he tucked and ran forward....while Milton scrambles...many times backwards...hoping to eventually find an open receiver...and more than a few times...Milton has 'thrown it up for grabs' and/or sometimes has been sacked for major lost yardage.

Milton does a better job looking downfield (Godfrey would tuck and run fairly quickly...but most of the time he went for positive yardage) and hopefully, Milton's accuracy will improve...as he still misses too many wide open receivers (usually high throws)...even on short throws.
 
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Yes, I agree. Godfrey was was more decisive when running with the ball,
 
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