McMurphy: ECU No longer a Big 12 candidate
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Did they really have a chance?
Sorry, ECU your fruit basket was stale
Sorry, ECU your fruit basket was stale
This is gets more ridiculous by the day. For over a year, the Big12 has known that their pool of expansion candidates was the AAC and BYU. The fact that they didn't have 11 & 12 along with 13 & 14 pre-selected and pre-approved is insane enough. Now, a couple months into research, they've narrowed the field to 75% of the AAC and BYU. So they've effectively eliminated ECU, Navy, and two out of the 4 private schools (Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, SMU)
That's an important note... perhaps BYU is out too. They're a private university, so even if the Big12 told them, they have no reason to make that public.
Is this not the dumbest statement? "Blaudschun wrote there was some talk about football-only invitations, a move "that would be easiest for BYU and UConn." He said UConn "presumably has a landing spot for its other sports in the Big East" if a Big 12 football invitation is made."
BYU ok, but Uconn as football only? Someone would actually take a never been much more than mediocre football team and cast away it's championship BB team? Does this have any credibility?
BYU ok, but Uconn as football only? Someone would actually take a never been much more than mediocre football team and cast away it's championship BB team? Does this have any credibility?
I agree this process is absolutely stupid, -agree to expand without have any idea who to do it with? Completely moronic.
It would cement the whole thing as a money grab. Nothing screams, "All we want is more TV money, not more competetion" than a UCONN football-only invite
I thought about that too. UCONN is a basketball only add, not football. Hahaha.
I don't think any of that matters if we look at it from the current members perspective.
The chairman of the Oklahoma BOR was probably the most candid in all this, when he said:
"The problem with Cincinnati is ... then they start getting all this money... then what do we do? We build up somebody we don't want to build up."
That applies to UCF too. The largest University in FL? Already the most popular among the general HS student population. It's Frankenstein's monster.
They know who they want, they are just dragging this out for the publicity. It keeps the Big 12 name out there. It generates more articles, more clicks, more coverage.
The Big 12 has turned something relatively simple into a circus for their own stupid media gains. Honestly, I say f&@k the Big 12. I have real reservations about joining even if invited. Their leadership just comes off as crooked or mentally inept. Probably both. Honestly, I hope they don't invite anyone and the American remains as is.
B12 needs to decided if they are going west and it looks like they have already made their bed. Makes little sense to have WVU and BYU in the same conference.
That's any school. The top tier of schools all want to compete, that's why they are top tier. If they don't want to build anyone up then chose Tulane and Rice but even they could become Baylor and TCU with the power of their alumni.
Look at the last round of expansion. Maryland, Rutgers, Pitt... with the exception of Louisville, none of those schools have shown any intention to be more than Wake Forest. It's about adding TV sets, without reducing the chances of the top tier schools from winning the conference.
"may put off the decision at least a year"
2nd stupidest idea. What the hell is going to change in a year or two. Oh, wait, I just got it- expansion to 16 and the rise of the P4
2nd stupidest idea. What the hell is going to change in a year or two. Oh, wait, I just got it- expansion to 16 and the rise of the P4
Guys like Weitzenhoffer (76) will be dead by then, so who knows. They just don't want to live to see the Big12 invaded by these nobodys who weren't around back their day.
Who knows. Probably whenever the grant of rights or whatever are up (I'm talking out my ass here). I just think the long game looks a lot better for UCF than the short game. The more the old school power brokers like Weitzenhoffer (who believe it's better to stick with schools like Iowa State/Wake Forest/Purdue, etc. purely because they've been around for a long time) die off as time goes by the better our chances likely get.
Ok, but I doubt any already in P5/4 are going to kick out anyone, they'll just not put up the lower half of the Big 12. I'd guess, knowing nothing, that we'd be better off in the Big 12 than the AAC, unless the heights of the AAC joins with the remainings of Big 12 and gets a P5 invite- low chance of that happening.
Houston, BYU, and Memphis are all going to steal Texas recruits from Oklahoma and every other B12 member if they get elevated.
UCF wouldn't start recruiting Texas, we would just start getting higher caliber FL kids and stealing recruits from SEC and ACC teams. Elevating us mostly hurts the B12's competition.
On UCF:
"It might be a commuter school, but they like sports, too."
How long does it take to shake that? Of the 6 large public FL schools (UCF, USF, UF, FSU, FIU, FAU) UCF has the most beds on campus... UCF might even have the highest ratio on campus students of those 6.
Look at that quote... it calls out Cincy. Cincy maybe affects WVU recruiting, but mostly it would hurt Ohio State and Michigan and Michigan State to lesser degrees. That quote is not a concern over recruiting, that's a concern over building another perennial competitor for conference championships.
That tweet has one reply right now... from the Big12 commissioner's son? Or is that a fake account?
Keep your head up, ECU... there's always the virtual conference!
Sadly, that's just our spin control. We're going the other way since UF and FSU used their leverage to force us to cap frosh admission. All our recent growth has been Direct Connect from Central Florida community (I mean "state" colleges). An the "on-campus" numbers result from two things: Florida is one of the only states that require dorms to pay their own way (resulting in Florida having by far the lowest percentage of state university students residing in dorms); and UCF includes in the total all the off-campus apartments it took control over administering. At least we prevent having that abysmal prof-owned, anything-goes "student ghetto" at Gainesville -- an utter embarrassment!
"Keep your head up, ECU... there's always the virtual conference!"
LOL, good one. Whatever happened to the rivals ezu trolls. Did they give up on us? Anyone been over there recently? I"m sure is it sad-sack city over there.
LOL, good one. Whatever happened to the rivals ezu trolls. Did they give up on us? Anyone been over there recently? I"m sure is it sad-sack city over there.
UCF reportedly to meet with Big 12 officials next week to make expansion pitch
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...ig-12-next-week-expansion-20160831-story.html
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...ig-12-next-week-expansion-20160831-story.html
I wonder if USF not having an On Campus Stadium will hurt them. They obviously will pull the whole 'hosted Super Bowls 10 years ago' card but looking at the league right now they would look out of place placing in such a sterile place for College Football.
All the Big12 venues are On Campus ranging from 40k and up
All the Big12 venues are On Campus ranging from 40k and up
You're reading it wrong, I've been told Memphis is a lock[1]. ESPN is trying to confirm if Memphis at #11 is even a question.
[1] Multiple memphis fans
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