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Yes. This is the 2nd time you've said this.

Did something happen in UCF football history involving Michigan to make you feel this way or are you (most likely) a closeted Gator fan?
No son, Dad and Uncle graduate from OSU. Go back to the Michigan page where you think you have a shot at a national championship but end up with 4 loses.
 
Go to your bathroom, look yourself in the mirror, and say "I troll UCF's message board because I gave no friends."
I literally never "trolled" or said anything negative. You're just a typical OSU slappy that can't keep Michigan out of your mouth. UCF is our opponent next week and I'm reading the forum and having rather civil interactions with everyone. You're the idiot that went out of his way to start something, despite me ignoring you the first time.

Consider you and your asinine posts ignored officially now.
 
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I literally never "trolled" or said anything negative. You're just a typical OSU slappy that can't keep Michigan out of your mouth. UCF is our opponent next week and I'm reading the forum and having rather civil interactions with everyone. You're the idiot that went out of his way to start something, despite me ignoring you the first time.

Consider you and your asinine posts ignored officially now.
Typical Michigan fan.... You guys think you have a good football team but by mid November you are trying to figure out your plans to the Outback Bowl when you are looking at 4 loses. Your time of 3 yard runs, fullbacks, and weak midwest athletes is over. Football is the best in the South and that is why Mr. Khaki came to Bradenton this spring to find players. Michigan football is soft and just like the Ohio State game a few years ago your fans will be sitting on their hands as a school from Florida not named UF or FSU shows you how football will be in the future. UCF wins a major bowl game before Michigan.
 
I literally never "trolled" or said anything negative. You're just a typical OSU slappy that can't keep Michigan out of your mouth. UCF is our opponent next week and I'm reading the forum and having rather civil interactions with everyone. You're the idiot that went out of his way to start something, despite me ignoring you the first time.

Consider you and your asinine posts ignored officially now.

We appreciate you sharing here. I really enjoy reading about our game next week.
Question- What is your strongest or most talented position on each side of the ball?
 
No son, Dad and Uncle graduate from OSU. Go back to the Michigan page where you think you have a shot at a national championship but end up with 4 loses.

Flem,

They came here being cool about the upcoming game. I hate trolls myself, but the Michigan fans so far have been cool and helpful to our fans on our board. I respect your opinion, but you are way off base here.
 
HailHailToMichigan guy was being totally cool and giving good information. Totally classy and friendly fan with posts. Just talking about the upcoming game without any trolling at all.

Now.,, we have this Flem guy throwing out random F-bombs and being a total jerk.
It's embarrassing actually. Thanks for still being cool about it and using the ignore feature
 
No son, Dad and Uncle graduate from OSU. Go back to the Michigan page where you think you have a shot at a national championship but end up with 4 loses.
Sorry you didn't have a son. I only have daughters, but it doesn't change my opinion of Michigan for good or bad.
 
We appreciate you sharing here. I really enjoy reading about our game next week.
Question- What is your strongest or most talented position on each side of the ball?

That's sort of a tough question.
The obvious answer for the defense is Jabrill Peppers. He's technically a linebacker, but is also a nickleback, safety, covers slot receivers, etc. He's kind of a plug-in anywhere player. I can't mention him without mentioning all-american cornerback Jourdan Lewis (who may not play as a precaution), Chris Wormley & Ryan Glasgow on the D-line are great as well.

On offense I'd have to say TE Jake Butt, he's a matchup nightmare (and there's lots more waiting in the wings). The other player right now would be Chris Evans. Yeah he's our 3rd string back but he's crazy athletic and I think Harbaugh's going to do everything he can to get him touches after what we saw on Saturday.

I think Michigan played like 17 freshmen against Hawaii, so who gets time & when is anybody's guess.
 
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Speaking of Michigan and their very cool fight song...first time I heard it live was at the Final Four in 1993 at the New Orleans Superdome.

Then heard it live at a Citrus Bowl too...I imagine even UCF Fans might enjoy that tune the first time they too hear it live at the Big House...and hopefully, it won't be played too many times (i.e. Michigan won't score many pts).
 
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Don't worry, Phlem is pretty easy to ignore.
Speaking of history, you may not know why Michigan fans hate Scott Frost (& his mother). For a recap, check out the posts on MGoBlog
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/why-we-hate-scott-frost
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/why-we-dont-scott-frosts-mom
Too funny. I guess the long standing programs with generations of die hard fans and tradition will remember this stuff 20 years later. I'm sure Frost knows about this as well, but has a lot of other things on his mind. I would be surprised if Michigan hangs 70 on us, or even more than 55 really.
 
Just read the Carol Frost (Frost's mom) letter. Yes, it was bad and uncalled for. Frost himself doesn't appear to be that way, but I'm sure there will be a few Michigan fan posts/letters aimed at his mom after this one.
 
What is your strongest or most talented position on each side of the ball?

Overall position groups would most likely be defensive line on the defense and either receiver or tight end on offense or "receivers" in general if you want to include tight ends. The only true weaknesses on this team our linebacker and quarterback but both proved more than competent (especially linebackers, albeit vs Hawaii). They aren't weaknesses as in their bad, they're just very unproven overall thus far. When every other position group is very good to elite though, they stick out.
 
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Indiana is more Oregon-like than OSU (with obviously lesser talent) and they gave us fits! That was with Durkin however and Brown is known for defending against the spread so we'll see.
Lots of players dinged up this game but we have depth that we haven't seen in a decade. Probably no Taco, Mone, D. Johnson, or Hurst. Everyone else should be good to go.
Not trying to be a dick, but I'd guess about a 48-10 game final.
Reasonable #. If We stay within 17, I will be happy. But honestly doubt that happens.
 
Just read the Carol Frost (Frost's mom) letter. Yes, it was bad and uncalled for. Frost himself doesn't appear to be that way, but I'm sure there will be a few Michigan fan posts/letters aimed at his mom after this one.
I thought it was awesome. It was also probably 10 years old since she referenced the score of a game in 05, so if they're still butt hurt about it too bad. She's dead on the money with every 50 year national championship, they act like they're something big because they've been playing football forever and have the most wins all time but 1 national title since 1950. You would think they're Alabama with how they brag. They aren't good enough and we definitely aren't bad enough to get 60 or 70 dropped on us, they'll be lucky to hang 40 on us.
 
I thought it was awesome. It was also probably 10 years old since she referenced the score of a game in 05, so if they're still butt hurt about it too bad. She's dead on the money with every 50 year national championship, they act like they're something big because they've been playing football forever and have the most wins all time but 1 national title since 1950. You would think they're Alabama with how they brag. They aren't good enough and we definitely aren't bad enough to get 60 or 70 dropped on us, they'll be lucky to hang 40 on us.
I really would be surprised too. If they do, it means Holman was terrible. The
Offensive line is good enough and with loads of talent at receiver, we should complete at least enough passes to move the ball to avoid them hanging 60-70. Geez, we aren't exactly a high school team. Holman would have moved the ball against Stanford last year. We are better than that team and is Michigan's defense THAT much better than Stanfords?
 
Just ignore his troll comments...its Proof the Prof is pretty clueless about UCF history.
KL's memory goes sometime and loves to pile on when he smells blood with fact-free disgust. here's the facts.
I said that the MAC was easy pickings vs. taking anyone who'd play us.
The only season in the MAC that was relevant was our first: 6-2 despite being 1-3 OOC. The MAC was easy for us but couldn't get by other newcomer, Marshall, just as I said. Shows how much easier the MAC competition was than our regular competition. And check out the scores. Despite snow and icy cool that MAC players were used to, we were running it up on them.
The second and third seasons were disasters against everyone. Two of our three wins were in the MAC. First there was the attendance monitoring "scandal" (athletes are the only students required to attend classes!) ended Kruczek tenure as well as our QB's career. [note double standard: at UNC, scandals are fictitious courses for all the athletes, our scandals are students cutting class]. Of course, year 3 was GOL's first Oh-fer.
Notice below that we won our last 5 against the MAC by an average margin of nearly 18 points, including Buffalo and Miami of Ohio in cold November. The two loses to a good Toledo and Marshall were by an 3 and 5 points.
Date Time Opponent# Rank# Site TV Result Attendance
August 31 12:10pm at No. 23 Penn State* Beaver StadiumUniversity Park, PA ESPN L 24–27 103,029
September 7 10:00pm at Arizona State* Sun Devil StadiumTempe, AZ L 13–46 43,401
September 20 7:00pm at Marshall Marshall University StadiumHuntington, WV ESPN2 L 21–26 32,900
September 28 6:00pm Liberty* Citrus BowlOrlando, FL W 48–17 20,416
October 12 3:30pm at Western Michigan Waldo StadiumKalamazoo, MI W 31–27 21,505
October 19 6:00pm Toledo Citrus Bowl • Orlando, FL SUN L 24–27 17,119
October 26 4:00pm Akron
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Citrus Bowl • Orlando, FL W 28–17 18,278
November 2 7:00pm Syracuse Citrus Bowl • Orlando, FL ESPN L 35–38 24,043
November 9 1:00pm at Buffalo* UB StadiumBuffalo, NY W 45–21 6,923
November 16 6:00pm Kent State Citrus Bowl • Orlando, FL W 32–6 7,354
November 23 1:30pm at Miami (OH) Yager StadiumOxford, OH W 48–31 7,962
November 30 1:00pm Ohio Citrus Bowl • Orlando, FL W 42–32 12,462
 
Well there are 20,000 students at every game.
There are over 575,000 living Alumni as well.
Factor in the population of Ann Arbor (117,770).

And there's really no way to tell.. Besides a few.. You'll know. Other than that you got alumni and just people that have lived and breathed Michigan football from the day they were born just by being born in the area or born to someone who is an alum or to someone who's parents were an alum, etc.

Michigan was one of the most popular and successful college football teams in a time where professional football didn't even exist. When TV came on the scene, Michigan was one of the few teams shown. You can't really blame anyone for being a "fan" of the team/school, anyway.

Michigan fandom spans generations. It's not really something acquired just by going there like a lot of schools. (I don't know a single fan of a directional Michigan school that didn't go there for example, but I do know plenty of them that are both fans of their Alma mater and either Michigan/MSU). 10 years ago everyone was a Michigan fan besides Alums/people close to Alums of MSU, nowadays it's about a 50/50 split MSU/Michigan so there's some bandwagoner's like any fanbase but 99% of that stadium would not fall under the "Walmart Wolverine" category, regardless of where/if they went to school.

If you didn't go to the school then you're a tshirt bandwagoner. Period. [smoke]
 
If you didn't go to the school then you're a tshirt bandwagoner. Period. [smoke]
On the other hand, the majority of UCF students transferred from an AA program and here as little as 2 years. Most never attend a single athletic event while here. All my male students talk sports incessantly before class, but it's pro and fantasy stuff. So I finally had enough. I told them that sports is pure fantasy already because it is wholly removed from reality: it can't affect anything in the world or in your life. It's escapist entertainment. So a fantasy derived from a fantasy is superfluous. Get with the real fantasy of the school's teams.
 
On the other hand, the majority of UCF students transferred from an AA program and here as little as 2 years. Most never attend a single athletic event while here. All my male students talk sports incessantly before class, but it's pro and fantasy stuff. So I finally had enough. I told them that sports is pure fantasy already because it is wholly removed from reality: it can't affect anything in the world or in your life. It's escapist entertainment. So a fantasy derived from a fantasy is superfluous. Get with the real fantasy of the school's teams.

Sorry, but this isn't true. While no doubt some students direct connect. A vast majority start as true freshmen.
 
Sorry, but this isn't true. While no doubt some students direct connect. A vast majority start as true freshmen.
And you teach where? I didn't think so. Like most state universities in the nation, a clear majority we service are upper division students. Now it's true we used to be mostly AA transfers back in the 80s and 90s. But UCF made a strong effort to admit more freshmen and serve high school grads statewide the way UF and FSU do (but even they take an enormous number of AA transfers). However, the state finally forced us, too, to cap freshman admissions (we were the last ones in the state system, which is one reason we went from smaller than USF and UF 20 years ago to way bigger).

Since the caps were installed we are rapidly returning to more of a direct connect regional schools, although since UF and more recently FSU have been rejected all but the very top high school applicant, UCF has become the preferred realistic choice statewide for excellent freshmen admits (1260 SATs and 4.0 GPA). Ironically, the caps only made us that much more selective, and thus in high demand even though we don't offer very many liberal arts programs with strong reputations (and never have) -- we're better for public admin, business, engineering, hospitality mgmt, and other professional programs.
 
If you didn't go to the school then you're a tshirt bandwagoner. Period. [smoke]
Eh, maybe when your school's football team hasn't even spanned a lifetime yet. I grew up a Michigan fan because my dad was (he was not an alumni). I was fortunate enough to also attend and basically only wanted to go there because of being a fan. Had I not, I'd still be a fan. Not really bandwagon when you grow up with it, in my opinion.

I only have issues when non-student/alumni fans get in pissing contests over academics with other schools.
 
Eh, maybe when your school's football team hasn't even spanned a lifetime yet. I grew up a Michigan fan because my dad was (he was not an alumni). I was fortunate enough to also attend and basically only wanted to go there because of being a fan. Had I not, I'd still be a fan. Not really bandwagon when you grow up with it, in my opinion.

I only have issues when non-student/alumni fans get in pissing contests over academics with other schools.

What's your degree?
 
Sorry, but this isn't true. While no doubt some students direct connect. A vast majority start as true freshmen.

You are wrong.

Check UCF Common Data Set numbers...as approx 9,300 "transfer" students start up at UCF in a calendar year (Summer, Fall, Spring Semesters) while UCF enrolls approx 6,500 Freshmen during those same 3 semesters.

That's always been UCF's #1 problem as 75% of Valencia/Seminole students that move on to a 4 year Univ end up at UCF yet UCF Athletics has had basically ZERO outreach to help develop some/many of those students into UCF "Raving" Fans while they are Freshmen/Soph.

Heck, the "student guest" ticket for the football game last week was the SAME PRICE as a general end zone ticket ($25).

UCF should have special Valencia/Seminole pricing for some (not all) football games with ID, for say $15...and special Basketball tix pricing too (i.e. $5 with ID, $50 for a season) because if you don't hook them while they are Freshmen/Soph...odds are, they won't be hooked when they show up for their turnstile 2-3 years at UCF (i.e. most transfer students never live on-campus and most transfer students do not join Greek Life or join/get associated with Clubs like many on-campus Freshmen do).

Biggest problem is that most UCF Athletic Leaders come from "traditional" Universities that have very little "transfer student" issues...as most of their students start out as freshmen, which helps some of them turn them into diehard alumni after graduation.
 
Just read the Carol Frost (Frost's mom) letter. Yes, it was bad and uncalled for. Frost himself doesn't appear to be that way, but I'm sure there will be a few Michigan fan posts/letters aimed at his mom after this one.

It is only being brought up because of this game. It isn't like the UM fan base has Frost as an enemy. That is better spent on MSU and the mouth breathing knuckle draggers from Ahia.
 
Eh, maybe when your school's football team hasn't even spanned a lifetime yet. I grew up a Michigan fan because my dad was (he was not an alumni). I was fortunate enough to also attend and basically only wanted to go there because of being a fan. Had I not, I'd still be a fan. Not really bandwagon when you grow up with it, in my opinion.

I only have issues when non-student/alumni fans get in pissing contests over academics with other schools.
As long as you are at least from the state. I find it weird when people who have never been to Alabama, become die hard Bama fans.
 
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Eh, maybe when your school's football team hasn't even spanned a lifetime yet. I grew up a Michigan fan because my dad was (he was not an alumni).

Yes, but now half of Michigan took I-75 and moved Florida since Michigan became the capital of the Rust Belt and Flint uses bottled water drawn from our aquifer. ;)
 
Now now. Let's everyone be nice. The Michigan fans came here to discuss the game in a friendly fashion and have been cool. There is no reason to trash them.
 
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from the article:
So, that's why we don't like Scott Frost, and that's why we want to see Harbaugh hang 70 on him on Saturday.
I seem to remember another team whose fans called for them to "hang 70" on us. It didn't go as planned.
 
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