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New Day Care Scare Tactics for Toddlers?

YouSeeEffer

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Sep 13, 2007
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So... today I'm driving around with my almost 3 year old in the back seat and he's jabbering about all the day care gossip. He always updates me about what the other little brats in his class did that day-- who went to time-out, who threw up, etc. Next, he starts talking about how if he or one of his friends do something wrong "Mr. Hook" is going to come after them. He says Mr. Hook wears gloves and a mask and that he looks like a monster. He goes on about how Mr. Hook is scary and won't show his face. Mr. Hook will fight them if they do something bad. When I asked him who told him about Mr. Hook, he said Miss J.

Miss J is a fat slob of a day care worker that stays from 3-7, which is after the main teacher leaves. She's also been known to take off a kid's poopy underwear accident and send the underwear home in a bag with the huge turd still inside.

Now... this whole Mr. Hook nonsense and traumatizing 2/3 year old seems out of line to me. It's a lazy way out of dealing with a screaming kid in time out. Am I overreacting like a crazy mom, or should I let some management know that their teachers are making their kids have nightmares?
 
not crazy. you are paying for child CARE.

pulled my kid out of Star Child b/c the way she (and other kids) had been treated by one of the helper-teachers.

Management had complaints and failed to correct or she failed to comply. The next week my brother said she was fired
 
I would talk to the day care owner. That is just lazy scare tactics instead of working with the kids. The owner/manager only knows what they are told and they make corrective action from there.
 
This is why I send my daughter to the Jew Daycare, they don't believe in any this Mr. Hook nonsense...or Valentine's day, St. Patrick's Day, Halloween, Christmas, etc.

This post was edited on 3/13 8:52 AM by OlearyLookAlike
 
My kid also goes to StarChild in Wekiva Springs. The management there addressed the turd issue pretty seriously. We are paying a pretty high premium for care so I suppose we meed to expect the "help" teachers.
 
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
My kid also goes to StarChild in Wekiva Springs. The management there addressed the turd issue pretty seriously. We are paying a pretty high premium for care so I suppose we meed to expect the "help" teachers.
Wow. I have a friend who has his kid go there and they've been happy with the school.

Are you fuking kidding about the turds? I would threaten to call WFTV or WESH. That is a serious violation of several state laws, least of all harassment.
 
We are very happy with it, and the only issues I have ever had have been with this Miss J teacher. We're at the doctor right now, but I'm going to bring it up to the owner when I bring him in.
 
I love Star Child because of how strict they are with the kids, but this is crossing the line.
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We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
 
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
Whoo hooo!! 3 more bottles of mommy juice every week!
 
We were at SC in Oviedo. Good organization overall, maybe just one bad apple that was working with my kid's class.

But, this was also when the economy started to get better, more kids enrolled. We went from a "waiting list" to get in a class w/ 15 kids to a class w/ 24 kids and them maxing out the legal kid to caregiver ratio.

They probably hired who they could to keep their rooms w/in the law.

She was a gruff, mad at life, smoker who from the looks of her leathery hide had lived hard. She hould not have been working w/ 2 and 3 year olds.

When we made the decision to leave, I sat down and discussed the issues we had and how they were counter to the core system they were selling. the owner acknowledgedthat they had numerous problems with this individual. Go figure.

My brother said he saw her walking out the day she was fired/quit talking on her cell loudly w/a heater in her other hand " eff thes a-holes and little brats, I don't need this sheeeot or their job" .... I am guessing that she "works from home" now filling out online surveys for discounts on Marlboro reds and bonus camel cash ...
 
Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
Full time?!?
Yes. And we get questioned all the time why we don't have a second kid yet.
 
Originally posted by UCFRogerz:

Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
Full time?!?
Yes. And we get questioned all the time why we don't have a second kid yet.
That's really not too bad at all.....it's $16K annually fulltime here. There are a few highly regarded ones, including ours, that are all around that price. Luckily my wife teaches so she get summers off so we don't have to pay all of that....it's about $900/mo for 3 days a week for infant care.
 
Infant care runs $245 a week there. I had him in another daycare until he turned 1 to save a little bit of money.
 
Originally posted by UCFRogerz:

Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
Full time?!?
Yes. And we get questioned all the time why we don't have a second kid yet.
It won't go down. There will be a rate increase in August. Mark my words. We had 2 kids go through Star Child over here and they were great, don't get me wrong, but the price always went up in August and it always seemed to be the exact difference between one room to the other.

Happiest days in a parent's life outside of birth, first words, first smile, first steps and first professional sports contract.
- Day 1 of successful potty training. No more $50 a week on diapers
- Day 1 of public school. No more $200 a week in daycare expenses.
 
The poopy underwear treatment is pretty common. Most daycares I have dealt with for my two boys wouldn't wash out the underwear and would wrap it all up in a bag to be sent home. The public school does that too. They do have a change of clothes on hand, and even a bunch of emergency loaner clothes if there happens to be more than one.

We had our kids at the YMCA daycare on Disney and they used to really piss me off. I was convinced they were understaffed and kept finding ways to send kids home early as a way to deal with that. They had a rule where if they declared your child to be running a fever, they had to stay away for 24 hours. Conveniently (for them), my boys would be "running fevers" at 4:45 PM on more than one occasion. Of course, when we picked them up, they were not, but we had to keep them home the whole next day because the daycare said they were.

LaPetite was way more flexible, but there were some supervision issues and the GM's daughter got away with everything. She was a bully and she knew she wouldn't be disciplined by the staff because of her mother, so it was a nightmare.

But I never had anything like the Mr. Hook situation. That is reprehensible.
 
Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by UCFRogerz:

Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
Full time?!?
Yes. And we get questioned all the time why we don't have a second kid yet.
That's really not too bad at all.....it's $16K annually fulltime here. There are a few highly regarded ones, including ours, that are all around that price. Luckily my wife teaches so she get summers off so we don't have to pay all of that....it's about $900/mo for 3 days a week for infant care.
Yeah, that makes sense. Cost of living is like 10-15% higher there so the numbers get pretty close.

Either way, it is effing expensive.I think you can get a au pair for like 20k/yr full time.

Another cost of the middle class.
 
Originally posted by UCFRogerz:

Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by UCFRogerz:

Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
We pay $200/week. It should be going down to $175 when he turns three. I'm pretty excited about that.
Full time?!?
Yes. And we get questioned all the time why we don't have a second kid yet.
That's really not too bad at all.....it's $16K annually fulltime here. There are a few highly regarded ones, including ours, that are all around that price. Luckily my wife teaches so she get summers off so we don't have to pay all of that....it's about $900/mo for 3 days a week for infant care.
Yeah, that makes sense. Cost of living is like 10-15% higher there so the numbers get pretty close.

Either way, it is effing expensive.I think you can get a au pair for like 20k/yr full time.

Another cost of the middle class.
I'm sure a lot of people here in Boca have nanny's and stuff. I know in home people are like $20/hr for a baby. I definitely see why a lot of women quit working after the second baby. Unless you are making a lot of money it's not really worth working after you pay taxes plus pay for daycare for two.
 
Paying $135 a week for an in home day care just down the street. She gets great personalized care, as she is only 1 of 4 total kids. We will be sending our second child there once the time comes.
 
I talked to the owner. She took it seriously and said that they were going to have a discussion with miss j about it this afternoon. I overheard her telling an assistant director about it when I walked out.

CommuterBob, to leave an entire load of poop in underwear is not acceptable. I dont expect them to launder my kids stank underrwear, but at least flip the steaming turd out into the toilet. Then an unsuspecting mom (maybe me) won't throw a whole load of shit in the washing machine when she just wants to get the poop stank out of the house after a full day at work. Mommy might just want to sit down and have a glass of wine rather than scrubbing brown corn curds out of the washing machine.

Also, the fever "24 hour rule" is at ALL day cares for our children's safety. It keeps little infected snotty nose kids from spreading their disease all over the class. It's not made up because of class ratios. A school that is strict about that policy cares about their students.

This post was edited on 3/13 11:43 AM by YouSeeEffer
 
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
I talked to the owner. She took it seriously and said that they were going to have a discussion with miss j about it this afternoon. I overheard her telling an assistant director about it when I walked out.

CommuterBob, to leave an entire load of poop in underwear is not acceptable. I dont expect them to launder my kids stank underrwear, but at least flip the steaming turd out into the toilet. Then an unsuspecting mom (maybe me) won't throw a whole load of shit in the washing machine when she just wants to get the poop stank out of the house after a full day at work. Mommy might just want to sit down and have a glass of wine rather than scrubbing brown corn curds out of the washing machine.

Also, the fever "24 hour rule" is at ALL day cares for our children's safety. It keeps little infected snotty nose kids from spreading their disease all over the class. It's not made up because of class ratios. A school that is strict about that policy cares about their students.

This post was edited on 3/13 11:43 AM by YouSeeEffer
I agree it's not acceptable, but it's what is done. I'm just saying, I've seen the whole turd left in before on a number of occasions and at multiple facilities. The teachers/daycare workers will not deal with it (over diaper age) other than to wrap it up and force the child to wipe themselves and change clothes. They will tell you it's not their job to wipe your child's butt and clean out their underwear. Be warned.

The 24 hour rule is fine and dandy and I agree with it. What I did not agree with was it being applied at the end of a day and my child not really having a fever, but being told he did. One time or even two isn't suspect. More than once a month is. And I would overhear the management discussing how they didn't have enough staff. And I would see the rooms understaffed and be told that "it's just temporary." It was why we left.


This post was edited on 3/13 12:40 PM by CommuterBob
 
If you pay someone to, essentially, help raise your in your absence, then you have a right to be extraordinarily picky about what happens in those hours when they care for your child. Daycare jobs don't usually attract the most talented and educated caretakers and being overcautious about who teaches your child during such impressionable years is paramount. That said, Mr. Hook is real and I still fear his wrath. I feel his vacant stare every night as I drift off to sleep. He paces to and fro outside my door as I cry myself to sleep. God save us from his unquenchable anger.
 
$866 per month sounds steep but it's not too bad when you think of it as $433 worth of each person's after tax take-home pay (assuming both are working).

That's just 14% of take home pay for someone bringing in $3K per month (Roughly $37K salary).

Hell, I spend a few hundred bucks on fishing/shooting gear per month.
 
^^^^^Leave it to 85 to perform the financial analysis. It still hurts to write $200 check every week when you think about all of the material things you could have purchased... like a house in Windermere, a new Tesla, Fendi sunglasses... Then you realize that your kid can already blend colors, write the alphabet and count to twenty, and you know you wouldn't have the patience to teach him all of that if you stayed home, so then it's worth it.
 
Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
$866 per month sounds steep but it's not too bad when you think of it as $433 worth of each person's after tax take-home pay (assuming both are working).

That's just 14% of take home pay for someone bringing in $3K per month (Roughly $37K salary).

Hell, I spend a few hundred bucks on fishing/shooting gear per month.
Technically Froggerz is too. After all, he wiggled his worm and did some shooting and now he has a monthly bill that has the uncanny knack of stepping on his balls every time he comes to give daddy a hug.
 
Originally posted by YouSeeEffer:
^^^^^Leave it to 85 to perform the financial analysis. It still hurts to write $200 check every week when you think about all of the material things you could have purchased... like a house in Windermere, a new Tesla, Fendi sunglasses... Then you realize that your kid can already blend colors, write the alphabet and count to twenty, and you know you wouldn't have the patience to teach him all of that if you stayed home, so then it's worth it.
Blend colors? Is that diversity training?
 
Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
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We've got two kids (infant and 2 year old) at Star Child and we pay close to $1,700/month for them. I still think it's totally worth it and its allowing us to budget for that cost and to pay for private school when they are old enough.

Each year when the rate goes down we take the difference in the new rate vs old and add that to what we are already putting in their 529 plans as well. Yes they raised their rates twice now (ours were in Feb) but they haven't been too drastic and they are still lower year over year.
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So, the daycare did their investigation. When my kid "Mr. Hook" he actually meant The Hulk. A parent from the classroom next door wore a hulk costume for show and tell on Friday. The costume had the big green fists (the gloves), a mask, and looked like a monster. I have to give my kid props for his spot on description. Also, when I asked him if he had ever seen "Mr. Hook" he insisted that he had. When I told him Mr. Hook wasn't real he said "yes he are!!". After the director discussed her Hulk theory with us, I strapped little frogz in his carseat and asked "so, what color is Mr. Hook?" And he says "green!"

There is still a possibility that Miss J has been threatening the kids with The Hulk, but I guess I'll let her off for now.
 
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