New Orleans Mayor Schools Confederate Flag Waiving Racists
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I bet 60% of the Cooler posters won't dare to click the link. And those who do listen to won't admit to it. They would probably agree with the message but it goes against their narrative.
Let's hide from history. That's serves everyone well.
I will admit that I have wrestled with this topic. In the end I think it comes down to this. Statues aren't necessarily history. They're art, art specifically meant to glorify people. Those being represented may have had good human character attributes but in the end they fought to keep slavery and lost. I'm not sure that should be glorified in our city streets and public places.
History is not being hidden. The history of these people will still be in books, textbooks and museums where the full narrative of both good and bad will be discussed.
The city is going to keep them behind locked gates in the trash yard until they can put them in a "museum" to teach future generations about how evil Whitey was. Or as scumbag Mayor Landrieu says "put them in full context".
The multiculturalists will try to use the remnants of our civilization for full propaganda value to humiliate and demoralize whitey and teach "new-Americans" to hate us.
If a statue of Martin Luther King was photographed sitting amid trash, half the cities in America would erupt in riots and flames.
Meanwhile they allow a statue of Lenin in liberal Seattle's Fremont district.
I encourage you both to listen to the speech.
It's good. Not the greatest thing ever as I've seen it portrayed on social media. It's blaming or vilifying anything if that is what is holding you back from listening.
Statues are history. Removing statues is one step towards sanitation of our not so glorious moments. Why can't we simply leave the statues up knowing that this was someone who fought to keep slavery alive and how faulty that was?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...tory-by-taking-down-monuments/article/2622426
In Iraq
In Ukraine
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eveals-100-statues-Lenin-toppled-Ukraine.html
Should they have left those statues up? You know because they are history and all?
In Iraq
In Ukraine
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eveals-100-statues-Lenin-toppled-Ukraine.html
Should they have left those statues up? You know because they are history and all?
First of all, these statues you showed were evil dictators and their toppling was largely symbolic in a change of government which isn't even close to the same since the civil war was an attempted secession. Secondly, the statues here are not of evil dictators who controlled entire countries and/or espoused philosophies as such.
But yes, leave up the statues.
Ya, but not like "overtly" or anything. I'm one of those subdued racists.
Hmmmm....something is wrong....NO is on record pace for murders. Racial tension is at all time high and the city still smells like chit. How can this be?!?! The racists statutes have come down and that was going to fix all the problems.
Evil dictator are by definition those who opposed and killed people. That's exactly what confederate generals did.
Let it go. Slave advocates are not all white people just like not all Germans are Nazis.
LOL. But the union generals did not. By opposed, if you meant oppressed, you are extremely mistaken. The confederates consisted of a volunteer army and General Lee was revered and loved...and not in a Kim Jong Un sort of way. He was thought to have a direct connection to God by most of his troops.
So much for museums capturing history...history is sliding down the slippery slope of political correctness into oblivion.
http://www.ajc.com/news/local/with-...war-museum-will-close/ogScTPPdqliC0z4opJ3GTI/
And I will be the first to say that a museum is the perfect place for this and I don't agree with it.
But also stated in the report are quotes from Henry county representatives saying they did not ask the museum to remove confederate flags or symbols so there seems to be conflicting information.
Charleston does history as well as any city I've visited. They obviously have a really dark history given they were one of the first major ports for slavery, but they've handled it really well. All of the slave homes and kitchens are required to be preserved and are part of peoples' properties (all of the homes are deemed historical and you cannot change anything on them without a permit). All of the tour guides include the full history "as it was" when they present it. The Plantations still have the slave quarters and provide educational material about the slaves' lives.
You go through these awesome old mansion homes and learn about the families who lived there, but also learn about the slaves they had.
You go through these awesome old mansion homes and learn about the families who lived there, but also learn about the slaves they had.
I personally don't think the statues should have been put up in the first place, given that they are glorifying people and many officers who literally were committing treason. But given that they are a part of history now having been up for so long, they should not be torn down just to blend in with the current "PC" trend.
They are a part of history themselves, as anyone who has visited any small town in the south knows the town square has a monument to the confederate soldiers (which is an entirely different argument too, those absolutely should never be torn down).
They are a part of history themselves, as anyone who has visited any small town in the south knows the town square has a monument to the confederate soldiers (which is an entirely different argument too, those absolutely should never be torn down).
Good info! We are planning to take our kids to the south this summer visiting plantations and civil rights museums near New Orleans. I thought about visiting Charleston but it was a longer flight from CA. Now based on this post, maybe we should reconsider Charleston since the slave quarters and the contrasts are really what I want my kids to see.
Charleston is my favorite city to visit. It has as much history as you can possibly want, amazing food, friendly people, and good hotels in downtown. We have visited there twice, both for 3 days at a time, and we filled every day with stuff to do.
It's also got Ft Sumpter and Patriot's Point which both alone can fill half a day or more. Charleston also has the first and oldest curated museum in America that was founded by Founding Fathers. The Customs House is where Washington held his inaugural ball. Sumpter is of course where the Civil War started.
Just know that it's brutally hot in summer. We went last July and it was blazing every day. We went back this past March and it was way better in terms of being able to walk around and see everything. Either way you'll have fun.
Check out the King Charles Inn for a hotel. It's a local hotel and was awesome to stay at. In summer the rates are good too.
Berlin should tear up the brick path they have marking the Berlin Wall, you know because, it's offensive.
you convinced me, im going to throw away that piece of all i have in the trash. need to white wash history as best we can.
This statue had been standing for 133 years. Even if you think Robert E Lee was a traitor and an asshole, as I do, the fact remains that the statue IS history and apart of New Orleans' history. This is not the same as some moron flying a Confederate flag over a government building that has no actual historical relevance.
If you visit France, there are statues and monuments to Napolean all over the place. The guy was responsible for nearly 4.5M deaths in Europe with 1M of those being civilians who were either caught in the way or deliberately executed by his forces.
If you visit France, there are statues and monuments to Napolean all over the place. The guy was responsible for nearly 4.5M deaths in Europe with 1M of those being civilians who were either caught in the way or deliberately executed by his forces.
You guys seem to have a real issue with understanding subjugation and exploitation. These statues weren't placed to honor history. They were placed as a reminder to black southerners who their real masters were. These statues, what they stood for, the people who erected them, and the people who continue to support their standing, have no understanding of the mental scars that these constant reminders leave on the lives of African Americans.
so now that the statue is gone, will all those scars and subjugation/exploitation just go away?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-now-illegal-alabama-remove-174400476.html
It's Now Illegal In Alabama To Remove Confederate Monuments
It's Now Illegal In Alabama To Remove Confederate Monuments
Why bother asking black people? @chemmie should be able to tell us. He speaks for every minority person in existence.
It's no longer enough to simply remove statues but the bodies of Confederates must be exhumed and relocated. The left wing SJW's are completely unhinged.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/me...-monuments-failed-attempt-dig-generals-grave/
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/me...-monuments-failed-attempt-dig-generals-grave/
