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Signed yesterday 6"5 pro style 3 star from Cocoa. Even more interesting is Ryan Schneider is his head coach. Cocoa is a perennial powerhouse hopefully this starts a little pipeline for us. I know they have had some big players leave the state.
 
Signed yesterday 6"5 pro style 3 star from Cocoa. Even more interesting is Ryan Schneider is his head coach. Cocoa is a perennial powerhouse hopefully this starts a little pipeline for us. I know they have had some big players leave the state.
Lots of discussion about him yesterday in the recruiting threads. He was the offensive leader of the team that was runner-up in 4A and was considered a top 50 HS football program in the country. 3 Star QB and 247 has him as 4th best QB in the FL class of '22. Very nice pickup and, if he delivers his passing skills and improves with his feet, could be the future. Here's a summary of his 2021 season.

2021: Set a Cocoa (Fla.) single-season school-record with 3,529 passing yards. Completed 223 of 320 passing attempts (69.7 percent) with 22 touchdowns to go against 8 interceptions. Also ran for 172 yards and 2 more scores. Guided Tigers to an 11-2 record and an appearance in Florida’s 4A state title game; Named MVP of the Elite 100 All-Star Game, which is an event for Central Florida’s top seniors.
 
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Lots of discussion about him yesterday in the recruiting threads. He was the offensive leader of the team that was runner-up in 4A and was considered a top 50 HS football program in the country. 3 Star QB and 247 has him as 4th best QB in the FL class of '22. Nice pickup and, if he delivers his passing skills and improves with his feet, could be the future.
I agree, I think he has potential especially if he has zip on the ball with accuracy. He could turn out to be our best passer. As we seen with DG ( which I don't consider a dual threat QB) when teams don't respect the read option lanes open up for chunk yards. With his size at 6'5 he should be able to take a hit. I'm looking forward to see how he develops.
 
He is a preferred walk-on so he adds an important arm to that unit.

With hard work, he might even earn a football scholarship in the future.
 
He is a preferred walk-on so he adds an important arm to that unit.

With hard work, he might even earn a football scholarship in the future.
I think there is a good possibility he earns a scholly after spring camp. Or the first scholly that becomes available. With the current state of the transfer portal it is believed that there will be another surge of players transferring from teams after spring camps.
 
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I think there is a good possibility he earns a scholly after spring camp. Or the first scholly that becomes available. With the current state of the transfer portal it is believed that there will be another surge of players transferring from teams after spring camps.
I'm sure Gus will give him a very close look. When he proves he's the best arm in the QB room (which I think he will) Gus will cut bait with at least one of our current QB's who can't throw...after all, this is the QB position right?
 
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I think there is a good possibility he earns a scholly after spring camp. Or the first scholly that becomes available. With the current state of the transfer portal it is believed that there will be another surge of players transferring from teams after spring camps.
Disagree...as Gus wants to use available scholarships on Portal Transfers come May...ad he still has immediate needs (i.e
LB).
 
Is LB oyr biggest need right now? I've been thinking DT or OT.
I think it is.
Jean-Baptiste is the only one with a lot of experience and while we are all very excited about Lewis, the truth is he has never played a snap in college. Assuming those 2 are the starters, go ahead and close your eyes and tell us who comes in and plays behind those guys if there is an injury? The 2 Arkansas LB? Maybe they make a big leap.
 
Our LB depth currently would probably look like:

Jean-Baptiste
Lewis
McDaniel (assumes he wont be a DE)
Mosier
Joyce
2 true freshmen

Yes we could use an experienced MLB....by the same token we also need a mauling guard with an attitude.
 
I think it is.
Jean-Baptiste is the only one with a lot of experience and while we are all very excited about Lewis, the truth is he has never played a snap in college. Assuming those 2 are the starters, go ahead and close your eyes and tell us who comes in and plays behind those guys if there is an injury? The 2 Arkansas LB? Maybe they make a big leap.
Yep, even if we add a LB in the portal we'll definitely need the AR LB's to step up. And if we don't add another LB, we'll have to rely on them. It's time.
 
I'm sure Gus will give him a very close look. When he proves he's the best arm in the QB room (which I think he will) Gus will cut bait with at least one of our current QB's who can't throw...after all, this is the QB position right?
Gus is a run first then pass offense at the QB position so the better running QB who can throw the adequate on the short pass is the starter.
 
Gus is a run first then pass offense at the QB position so the better running QB who can throw the adequate on the short pass is the starter.
This, even if this kid is a stud passing QB he's going to look to have a mobile QB in there. His use of Gatewood shows how much he wants to focus on running vs. Passing.
 
Our LB depth currently would probably look like:

Jean-Baptiste
Lewis
McDaniel (assumes he wont be a DE)
Mosier
Joyce
2 true freshmen

Yes we could use an experienced MLB....by the same token we also need a mauling guard with an attitude.
Keenan Cupit in there too?
 
This, even if this kid is a stud passing QB he's going to look to have a mobile QB in there. His use of Gatewood shows how much he wants to focus on running vs. Passing.
I think we will throw more with a passing QB (especially with Chip Lindsey as the OC). Without Lindsey, DG threw 10 or so more passes in his games than Mikey did. And remember, Mikey was hardly a mobile QB (that was obvious if you watched the games). For the season he rushed for -36 yards (yes, that's minus). John Rys will make a huge difference in that stat. Back to the kid, if he is a stud passer and can elude the rush/run when necessary, he has a good chance at significant playing time in his career at UCF.
 
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Gus is a run first then pass offense at the QB position so the better running QB who can throw the adequate on the short pass is the starter.
Bingo. The real reason that Dillon left. I still can't figure out why Dillon committed to Army before he came here?
 
Competition at Cocoa is always h

Thanks for posting this! Cocoa plays a brutal schedule every year. I'm excited to see him grow at UCF.
Meh, i live in Brevard and the football is sub-par outside of Cocoa, Melbourne and (this year) Merritt Island. Still, the more qbs the more merrier.
 
I think we will throw more with a passing QB (especially with Chip Lindsey as the OC). Without Lindsey, DG threw 10 or so more passes in his games than Mikey did. And remember, Mikey was hardly a mobile QB (that was obvious if you watched the games). For the season he rushed for -36 yards (yes, that's minus). John Rys will make a huge difference in that stat. Back to the kid, if he is a stud passer and can elude the rush/run when necessary, he has a good chance at significant playing time in his career at UCF.
DG threw more passes but, as many people mentioned during the season, there were not many deep balls for him or Mikey. Gus is short pass guy.
 
This, even if this kid is a stud passing QB he's going to look to have a mobile QB in there. His use of Gatewood shows how much he wants to focus on running vs. Passing.
So why didn’t Gatewood start?
 
So why didn’t Gatewood start?
Gatewood stepped on campus like 7 days before Boise State. If he started then it would been like telling the entire team that the offseason and fall practice was a waste of time for the offense. Malzahn shoe horned Gatewood in several times in games in situations that baffled everyone across the board, because he prefers a game plan/QB of that makeup.

Keene didn't start because he valued Keene's skillset over anyone else. He just got told not to make any mistakes and let the defense and running game win and probably had the most rapport with the team and understanding of the playbook.

Is there any doubt one of the dual threat QB options will be the starter next year?
 
Is there any doubt one of the dual threat QB options will be the starter next year?
Plenty of doubt....with just a bit of improvement, how hard would it be for Keene to beat out a guy that hasn’t played the position much in 2 years (also distracted by baseball) and a true freshman? Maybe not that hard.
 
Meh, i live in Brevard and the football is sub-par outside of Cocoa, Melbourne and (this year) Merritt Island. Still, the more qbs the more merrier.
Merritt Island was a powerhouse for a long time. Demographics changed and the population grew older, and Cocoa who was our whipping boy back in the day became the power school. In 1972 Merritt island team was state champs and to this day is considered one of the best high school teams ever in the State of Florida.
 
Plenty of doubt....with just a bit of improvement, how hard would it be for Keene to beat out a guy that hasn’t played the position much in 2 years (also distracted by baseball) and a true freshman? Maybe not that hard.
Again, I think he rolls with the QB that matches his style/playbook. Just like how Gatewood/Navarro got thrown in so many redzone situations over Keene even on drives when Keene was marching down the field.
 
Plenty of doubt....with just a bit of improvement, how hard would it be for Keene to beat out a guy that hasn’t played the position much in 2 years (also distracted by baseball) and a true freshman? Maybe not that hard.
Keene needs to improve, more than a little, and learn to play fearless....if he does, he's got a chance to play. If he doesn't, he won't (-36 yards rushing and mediocre downfield passing won't win the job this year). Let's see if he can step it up. It'll come down to who wants it and will play with his hair on fire. I guarantee you that JRP does. What about Keene?
 
Gatewood stepped on campus like 7 days before Boise State. If he started then it would been like telling the entire team that the offseason and fall practice was a waste of time for the offense. Malzahn shoe horned Gatewood in several times in games in situations that baffled everyone across the board, because he prefers a game plan/QB of that makeup.

Keene didn't start because he valued Keene's skillset over anyone else. He just got told not to make any mistakes and let the defense and running game win and probably had the most rapport with the team and understanding of the playbook.

Is there any doubt one of the dual threat QB options will be the starter next year?
Gatewood already knew Gus’ offense after playing a full year for him, was in his third year of being coached as a college QBs….and still couldn’t overtake Keene halfway or 3/4 of the way in to the season…

College coaches play the best player they have which will help them win…Keene was clearly the best last year all the way through the biggest game and Win of the season vs UF……despite what some fans think…Gus valued Keene skill set ….if you think Gus isn’t having a competition for the starting QBs job and there’s “no doubt” for next season ….you’re mistaken. ..may the best QBs win
 
For me, it will be the most interesting QB battle in our program's history without question.

Keene will be better, but by how much?
Can JRP learn to throw the ball accurately, just enough, to take over?
Is Castellanos the Gus prototype we all think he is and does he pull a DG, grabbing the start as a freshman?
Does Wydner, standing taller than anyone, sling the rock so well in Spring that he makes everyone question everything?

Lots of cool storylines!
 
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