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No one will know the effects for decades. However, we hit a critical vaccinated percentage which has subsided the virus much greater than China. Their vaccine didn’t work and COVID is ravaging that country. What the trade off is remains to be seen.
Cool but don’t we have a Covid and Twitter thread?
47 million pages dominated by the usual suspects (on both sides).
The new Covid Vaccine Poll- 1 year later
Figure it was time for a new poll 1 year...
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Agreed. It's so difficult to quantify the tradeoffs. There are so many factors at play it will take quite awhile to tease out the relevant data amidst the noise.
In hindsight, I do not envy the public health officials in 2020-2021. They knew the data sets were limited and in an ideal world they would wait to get more data, but hospitals were filling up and everyone was looking to them to do something. Unfortunately, everyone just got a crash course in how the scientific method typically evolves knowledge in a field. I do believe what we saw transpire over the last 2-3 years (in terms of papers published and new knowledge created) typically takes 10 years to occur in other areas.
It's easy to fool someone but difficult to convince them they have been fooled.
This thread is not complete without the buffet slayer/señor gordito UCFBS and his 5,000-word manifesto.
And I can agree with some of that, especially through June 2021. We wanted to get vaccines in the hands of the highest risks, the elderly, the immune compromised, et al. The risk was worth it. But then ...
Commerce and the oligarchy took over. What was a 1.5% revenue department became the entire profit-margin, while Pharma had full immunity, and ... US Media, Big Tech and other advertising revenue was heavily made up of Pharma.
This is something we used to question. We'd point out the 'impartiality.' Today, we literally 'eat it up.' I still cannot believe 'conflict of interest' is not even something people discuss now. And the few that didn't have such, were the ones first demonized when they questioned.
Suddenly ... entire swaths of the entire medical community were 'anti-vaxxers,' and ... 'the message was sent.' But not at the BMJ and others. And they were censored. We started this whole 'misinformation' to silence any expert discourse. And that is what scares me ... especially in how much the BMJ said that came true.
This is something we used to question. We'd point out the 'impartiality.' Today, we literally 'eat it up.' I still cannot believe 'conflict of interest' is not even something people discuss now. And the few that didn't have such, were the ones first demonized when they questioned.
Suddenly ... entire swaths of the entire medical community were 'anti-vaxxers,' and ... 'the message was sent.' But not at the BMJ and others. And they were censored. We started this whole 'misinformation' to silence any expert discourse. And that is what scares me ... especially in how much the BMJ said that came true.
0) First Viruses Take out the Most Suseptible, Genetically, Then They Breed in the Most Suseptible Left
It's amazing how the US Media and Politicians literally ignored all the major journals in early 2021. They were trying to get people to understand what the vaccines would and wouldn't do. Most people who were going to die were going to die, regardless of vaccines. Then some were saved by them. They did not breed much.
That was just merely genetics, natural selection.
Then we have the middle aged, the ones 40+ who survive, but breed, cause mutations, etc... Many have a long form of the respiratory disease. It's genetics as well, although age, comorbidies and the like could increase issues. This is where most of the mutations come from.
Luckily, as the B-series (B.x, which included Alpha, Delta, et al.), which took hold by the BA.2 series, it became upper respiratory tract only for most everyone. Natural IgA antibodes in the ENT areas took it out, or people had 'long versions.'
But this is also why the vaccines stopped working for the general population. They are intramuscular, IgG antibody predominate in the blood. So if it wasn't getting into the lungs, the vaccines did nothing to stop it. And it bred in the upper respiratory tract.
That's why the US NIH warned in 2020, when the first 10 were in development, that they wouldn't work as it started spreading more and more, and killing less and less. We needed an intra-nasal, IgA antibody-predominant vaccine ... literally like in the movie Contagion ... even though SARS-CoV-2 didn't kill like Contagion did, not as many (not even 1/100th, more like 1/1,000th), not as fast.
That was just merely genetics, natural selection.
Then we have the middle aged, the ones 40+ who survive, but breed, cause mutations, etc... Many have a long form of the respiratory disease. It's genetics as well, although age, comorbidies and the like could increase issues. This is where most of the mutations come from.
Luckily, as the B-series (B.x, which included Alpha, Delta, et al.), which took hold by the BA.2 series, it became upper respiratory tract only for most everyone. Natural IgA antibodes in the ENT areas took it out, or people had 'long versions.'
But this is also why the vaccines stopped working for the general population. They are intramuscular, IgG antibody predominate in the blood. So if it wasn't getting into the lungs, the vaccines did nothing to stop it. And it bred in the upper respiratory tract.
That's why the US NIH warned in 2020, when the first 10 were in development, that they wouldn't work as it started spreading more and more, and killing less and less. We needed an intra-nasal, IgA antibody-predominant vaccine ... literally like in the movie Contagion ... even though SARS-CoV-2 didn't kill like Contagion did, not as many (not even 1/100th, more like 1/1,000th), not as fast.
This is what happened by fall of 2021. But you never heard this in the US Media, but it's why the FDA's own experts and long-standing leaders rejected vaccines in kids, let alone re-vaxxing (marketed as 'boosting') the general population of adults.
1) Campaign Promises by May-June 2021, Delta Spreads Like Wildfire
Unfortunately, by May 2021, a compaign promise was to be met. The social distancing and mask mandates came off after a 18 hour then 36 hour 'flip-flop' by the politically appointed CDC leadership. And ... Delta spread like wildfire over the next 6 weeks. Those were the most effective tools we had, but ... a campaign promise was to be met.
In fact, Israel even came up with warnings on when young people under 40, and definitely under 25, should not get vaccinated ... such as post-recovery, such as when the first shot caused certain effects, etc... Here in the US, we ignored those, even after the FDA put the warning labels. The 'safe and effective' was the argument always used, even when kids had serious side effects after the first shot, but 'recovered.'
That was the sign not to get a second, but even the minor ones, but known to be problematic, by the Israelis, were ignored here in the US ... despite the FDA adding the warning labels. It is really the sad state of the US. We literally have a politcally-driven medical system, where doctors are no longer allowed to independently draw their own conclusions from the symptoms, but telling everyone, "Oh, it's just temporary."
In fact, Israel even came up with warnings on when young people under 40, and definitely under 25, should not get vaccinated ... such as post-recovery, such as when the first shot caused certain effects, etc... Here in the US, we ignored those, even after the FDA put the warning labels. The 'safe and effective' was the argument always used, even when kids had serious side effects after the first shot, but 'recovered.'
That was the sign not to get a second, but even the minor ones, but known to be problematic, by the Israelis, were ignored here in the US ... despite the FDA adding the warning labels. It is really the sad state of the US. We literally have a politcally-driven medical system, where doctors are no longer allowed to independently draw their own conclusions from the symptoms, but telling everyone, "Oh, it's just temporary."
And we all know what happened after that. This is whem the BMJ and even some FDA experts were starting to question the entire strategy in the US, especially as Israel was open and forward that their strategy may or may not work, and they were focused on the elderly, not those under 50, much less 40.
2) CDC refuses to send data to the FDA in July-August 2021, despite promises to the contrary
By July 2021, the US CDC was still refusing to send data to the US FDA, and even Krause and the Review team at the FDA were leaning on heavy to get that data, and never did. That's why Krause, the internal FDA panels, and the external FDA expert panels all rejected, either overwhelmingly or unianimously, all re-vaccinations (boosters) and authorization for children.
And we all know what happened after that. The rejection of new boosters and the initial shots for kids by those FDA panels, the resulting end to expert panels, resignations, etc... This is when the first, major 'red flags' were thrown, especially since immunity was still in effect. The 'cannot hurt' was very much the argument, and we found out later with the data, yes, it can, and it's definitely not any better to keep boosting ... unless your elderly or immunocompromised.
We had no data supporting what we were doing, and were doing things no other developed country was doing. Even today, we have such an absence of data, and we are completely reliant on other countries, and still 'ignore' what we don't want to believe.
3) FDA internal and external expert panels reject both 're-vaxxing' (Boosters) and vax authorization for kids
On the heels of Pfizer's CEO pre-announcing 'boosters' (re-vaxxination), which was heavily rebuked by the FDA's top experts, and quite public ... the politically appointed leadership FDA killing all review and expert panels and they started to openly question why the leadership overrode recommendations, especially noting not just no data, but the withholding of data. This was then backed by the FOIA releases, which are heavily redacted, but still show Krause literally 'up in arms' over the CDC refusing to send along data, and 'the need to protect the review team.'
Of course, Gruber and Krause resigned no longer after that, especially since they were so public against Pfizer's CEO, and then public in foreign publications about what happened at the FDA.
Of course, Gruber and Krause resigned no longer after that, especially since they were so public against Pfizer's CEO, and then public in foreign publications about what happened at the FDA.
The Mandates came, allegedly to stop the spread, which was not helped at all by the vaccines ... not even pre-Delta. Nothing had changed. And as Pharma has admitted over and over, just as the NIH stated in 2020, and Time magazine covered at the start of 2021 ... intramuscular, IgG antibody-predominant vaccines do not reduce the spread of intranasal breeding, IgA antibody-suseptible, respiratory viruses.
4) CDC data on Delta increasingly at-odds with Israeli, British and other data, from immunity to long COVID
This one has been covered, and the CDC looks very poor by early 2022 when California and New York released data about Delta and natural immunity that was at odds with the CDC's vaccine data, and the whole 'super immunity' argument.
And we now have increasing data showing no improvement against Long COVID. It's almost a repeat theme, the initial, small sample studies show benefits for more and more vaccines and boosters, but then the major, nation-wide studies come in, and it's all negligible.
And we're still doing no safety data beyond a few weeks. That's why many people are saying, "Okay, the risk is worth it for older, but look at the data for younger, especially children ... it's no worse than existing coronaviruses."
Of course vaccines work ... proven vaccines do. There is no proof that the current vaccines are proven to stop any spread, and we have no safety data. The whole reason for emergency use is to help at-risk people. But we pushed it on the younger and younger, who were not at risk, and only for the 'stop the spread' and 'save other people' lie.
Anyone who stated that is guilty of malpractice and false advertising, and that's what most of us have been saying since spring of 2021. And guess what? We were proven true. That's why even the Israelis and Europeans 'backed off' on going younger and younger, and only recommended things for the elderly.
And we now have increasing data showing no improvement against Long COVID. It's almost a repeat theme, the initial, small sample studies show benefits for more and more vaccines and boosters, but then the major, nation-wide studies come in, and it's all negligible.
And we're still doing no safety data beyond a few weeks. That's why many people are saying, "Okay, the risk is worth it for older, but look at the data for younger, especially children ... it's no worse than existing coronaviruses."
Of course vaccines work ... proven vaccines do. There is no proof that the current vaccines are proven to stop any spread, and we have no safety data. The whole reason for emergency use is to help at-risk people. But we pushed it on the younger and younger, who were not at risk, and only for the 'stop the spread' and 'save other people' lie.
Anyone who stated that is guilty of malpractice and false advertising, and that's what most of us have been saying since spring of 2021. And guess what? We were proven true. That's why even the Israelis and Europeans 'backed off' on going younger and younger, and only recommended things for the elderly.
The US is still the only developed country pushing re-vaccination as better than recovery, and recovery not counting as vaccination, and the overwhelming majority of the people having complications are under 40 and recovered individuals who should have not been vaccinated or re-vaccinated after recovery. By many were caught by the mandates made 100% politically, 0% science, in not just the absence of data, but fabrication of data by the CDC. Not a shocker the people pointing this out were the same ones pointing out the fraudulent data from Theranos prior. But this was the US CDC!
5) Ignoring Long-Term Effects That Vaccination Does Not Address, Especially in the US
It's pretty much becoming universally agreed outside the US that long-term risk, whether you're recovered or vaccinated, to the heart is real ... for a good year after either infection or vaccination. Many countries are starting protocols for at least medical workers, but also the general population, from supplements to off-label drugs.
Heart attacks, for example, are elevated, regardless of recovery or vaccination.
But like most things in the US, if these are not covered under a patent or a new drug, and use off-the-shelf supplements, drugs or off-label drugs that are no longer under patent, they just don't fly. Doctors don't get Pharma pushing the solutions, and that's where most US doctors get their information.
We are literally f'ing up this issue, big time! But that's how the US works.
Heck, it was only more recently that Vitamin-D deficiency, among others, started to become a major focus of the AMA along with various journals, and it was considered not a big deal prior to that. And yes, Vitamin-D deficiency, along with ther deficiencies, made a huge impact with SARS-CoV-2 infection, like most diseases.
But you say anything like that, a 'cocktail,' and people call you an 'anti-vaxxer.'
No, in fact, it's a perfect example of not only what's wrong with the US, but why it took us 15 years to finally get semi-effective, HIV/AIDS mitigating cocktails. The FDA approved AZT in '87, but it wasn't until nearly the mid-'90s that a combination of supplements and off-label drugs, were used with AZT in a cocktail to be far more effective at HIV/AIDS mitigating.
Heart attacks, for example, are elevated, regardless of recovery or vaccination.
But like most things in the US, if these are not covered under a patent or a new drug, and use off-the-shelf supplements, drugs or off-label drugs that are no longer under patent, they just don't fly. Doctors don't get Pharma pushing the solutions, and that's where most US doctors get their information.
We are literally f'ing up this issue, big time! But that's how the US works.
Heck, it was only more recently that Vitamin-D deficiency, among others, started to become a major focus of the AMA along with various journals, and it was considered not a big deal prior to that. And yes, Vitamin-D deficiency, along with ther deficiencies, made a huge impact with SARS-CoV-2 infection, like most diseases.
But you say anything like that, a 'cocktail,' and people call you an 'anti-vaxxer.'
No, in fact, it's a perfect example of not only what's wrong with the US, but why it took us 15 years to finally get semi-effective, HIV/AIDS mitigating cocktails. The FDA approved AZT in '87, but it wasn't until nearly the mid-'90s that a combination of supplements and off-label drugs, were used with AZT in a cocktail to be far more effective at HIV/AIDS mitigating.
That has to happen for SARS-CoV-2 as well, especially since we don't understand much at all about Coronaviruses. In fact, our understanding Coronaviruses was so poor for the last 120 years of study, we didn't even know they were different than Influenza Viruses until 60 years ago, and most of our knowledge is only the last 15 years ... most of it still very shaky and questioned, like the 1890 Russian Flu pandemic actually being OC43-CoV.
Everything is on the table. But ... the 'just get the shot [over and over]' people seriously need to STFU. It protects no one but the person getting the shot, and even then ... it may be inappropriate, especialy the younger we go. And yes, that means we use off-label drugs to attempt to address various situations, as we always have, like with HIV/AIDS.
Especially if the early stem cell research on why pregnant women are having kids 10x more suseptible to RSV than before holds true in the case of mRNA vaccines, which is far worse than even infection of SARS-CoV-2 while pregnant. It's rather scary how the immune system of infants may have been compromised, when we were pushing the standard, "Your child will have antibodies."
We had no data at all! None! We lied about having any such data! We have had so few studies that have proven anything out, other than the elderly and those immunocompromised were helped by vaccines, and that pushing vaccines on kids in this fraudulent 'herd immunity' did nothing but possibly cause more issues we don't even know about yet. And the fact that fraud drove us to do that ... is what we must be questioning!
I posted over 100 articles over the past 20 months. It's amazing how much came true. But I was reading a lot of experts from the BMJ and others. Americans don't want to accept what experts tell them, but what the US Media and Politicians do, even Politically appointed leadership, even when our own, top experts reject and even resign, publishing outside the US to the contrary.
And the more recent releases under FOIA rulings ... literally scare the sh-- out of me. The fact that the CDC refused to give the FDA data, and that's why the FDA was rejecting everything, which led to the abolishment of our top experts in the FDA with any power.
We had the warnings in 2021 June. And we ignored them. FDA experts can unanimously reject something, and the politically appointed FDA leadership will push it through as 'safe.' Even when they have data that says it's not, and the CDC doesn't like that data. And seemingly always in the absence of any data atop of that!
Theranos style
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It’s now complete. Except it’s over 5000 words of tangential BS that no-one will ever read.
This tub of goo did the following:
Me: "This thread is not complete without the buffet slayer/señor gordito UCFBS and his 5,000-word manifesto."
Señor All-you-can-eat: "Hold my 5-gallon milkshake. DON'T TAKE SIP ANY OF IT--GOD DAMMIT I WILL KILL YOU AND I WILL KNOW IF YOU DID"
And he returns with another out-of-touch, insane, rambling, 6,000-word manifesto that not one person is going to read.
Is there anyone who is more clueless than this idiot? Thank God he never procreated...
The anti-Pharma parade float was bragging in the Dungeon how he used Viagra to get Mrs. Parade Float off. The visual
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This is so bizarre. To show you how out of touch that you are with reality, you actually edited a manifesto 3 times that no one is going to read
You really should relocate to Russia since you hate America so much. Sounds like stuff that sickos write before they go on a shooting spree
PILLS FROM BIG PHARMA ARE BAD AND WILL KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNLESS THEY HELP YOUR PEE PEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His physician probably had to take out a fukcing calculator to figure out the dosage for his big ass.
BIG PHARMA KILLS AND IS ONLY ABOUT MONEY!!!!!
ALSO: TAKE MY MONEY!!!! MY PEE PEE DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!!
Absolutely shocked the government was working with social media to control covid data.* Suppressing doctors and other experts and the cdc's own data. Censoring information that was true but inconvenient to the US government.
How many booster shots now? Lol
How many booster shots now? Lol
Thought you weren't posting here any longer, knighttime???!??!?!?
Coming from the guy who may or may not have gotten the jab.
I do want to be clear about one thing ...
Equally an Issue: Most non-US sources state that both SARS-CoV-2 infection and mRNA vaccination (other, non-mRNA/AD vaccines may or may not, like traditional, bio-grown, inactivated ... the data is just lacking, in the west) cause elevated issues with cardiovascular functionality for at least a full year after infection or vaccination, and it seems to be quite equal. But ...
Difference in US: The thing that pisses me off the most is how the Oligarchy, US CDC, US FDA and Pharma are working to ignore this and, as a result, the Medical Community in the US is. Not only over the alleged 'fighting misinformation/anti-vaxxer' approach, but far more reality ... tThere are no patented or otherwise IP-tied drugs or supplements ... at least not yet ... that seemingly address it, and that's where most Doctors, even the AMA, get their information from in the US, Pharma pushing R&D and drugs.
Outside the US, it looks like many common, over-the-counter supplements and drugs, do help, and there's evidence a couple of off-label prescription drugs, FDA safe in existing doses, but no longer under Patents or other IP, do help as well.
So ... as before,
more and more US Doctors are watching foreign media and research, instead of US. The 'trust' in US authorities is kinda 'lost' at this point, especially as our top, existing experts are being villified for leaving and/or publishing outside the US ... especially the same experts the leadership at the US CDC and FDA used to trust prior to mid-2021, and 'disciplined' then.
The US Media didn't care when they, at the FDA itself, rejected boosters for the general population, and any vaccines for kids, by late summer/early fall 2021. And they didn't care this year, from July through October, when the heavily redacted, but court-issued FOIA disclosures flat out stated the CDC withheld data from both Krause and the the entire FDA review team, and that's why they rejected them, either overwhelmingly or unanimously, in all voting.
That's how f'd up we are right now, and why experts and doctors either openly disagree now, or just live in fear of losing their livelihood. I cannot emphasize this enough. And the 'Safe and Effective' crowd need to really understand, we have no data. We're not even tracking much of anything, despite all the issues. VEARS itself is considered useless, and ... that's why everything is coming from overseas.
But you don't hear about it in the US Media. People are having complications, and it's not at the rates the US CDC stated prior. Far from it! Especially with younger people who don't get advisement in the US like they do outside the US. Hence why it's not tracked well.
The US Media didn't care when they, at the FDA itself, rejected boosters for the general population, and any vaccines for kids, by late summer/early fall 2021. And they didn't care this year, from July through October, when the heavily redacted, but court-issued FOIA disclosures flat out stated the CDC withheld data from both Krause and the the entire FDA review team, and that's why they rejected them, either overwhelmingly or unanimously, in all voting.
That's how f'd up we are right now, and why experts and doctors either openly disagree now, or just live in fear of losing their livelihood. I cannot emphasize this enough. And the 'Safe and Effective' crowd need to really understand, we have no data. We're not even tracking much of anything, despite all the issues. VEARS itself is considered useless, and ... that's why everything is coming from overseas.
But you don't hear about it in the US Media. People are having complications, and it's not at the rates the US CDC stated prior. Far from it! Especially with younger people who don't get advisement in the US like they do outside the US. Hence why it's not tracked well.
The final laughs are those who aren’t obsessed with Covid and vaccines and living their lives, not the ones trying to win a WC message board argument, so they can thump their chests to mommy like King Kong 😂
I thought you weren't posting here any longer??!?!?!?! Remember when you told us you may or may not have gotten vaxxed???? And then changed the subject 90 thousand times?
Do you still wax poetic over Crazy's suicide and pray that he offed himself? You know, for shits and giggles?
Maybe you can change your handle again, knighttime????
Was this Christmas season busy for you all at the sandwich counter at WaWa??? Were you written up again for posting on the clock when you should have been making turkey hoagies?
Did you ever finish deleting all your posts?
Care less about the argument if it wasn't for adding trillions of dollars to the deficit, people losing their jobs, forcing masks, home school, etc. I personally would like to have all the details on what happened, who was responsible, and why. At this point I just want to know what information was suppressed and is it now proven factual?
I would hope everyone wants the same.
Do you seriously think this lame wawa joke played out over and over is even funny?
What difference does it make to someone who was never going to post here again?
Did you ever seek treatment for your BDS? I'm sure BIG PHARMA has some pill you can take, WAWA boy...
Hopefully you won't be so boring and lame in 2023. Maybe you won't fall for so much "misinformation" too.
Do we have to revisit I called out the crypto crash too?
Remember when you spent months trying to convince everyone you weren't knighttime and that you hadn't changed your screen name? Oh, the memories.
"NEVER HEARD OF HER."
"DON'T KNOW WHO SHE IS."
Or how about these two gems:
^^^^BDS and denial on display
^^^^^Just denial on display
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