Ryan Bass is reporting that they are now at Anger. They want Walters or they are transferring. Also want a 3-4 DC. Let's make Troy the head coach.
Players stages of grief.
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They won't transfer. If they do, they are idiots who are just as big of selfish frauds as the guy they supposedly hate is.
Do you have a link to this article/tweet? Would like to read this
White can't make coaching hires purely on emotion. I like Troy but I'm not sure about giving him the Head Coach role
the minute i see "Ryan Bass" I move on to another thread
According to Ryan Bass, we're replacing Frost, because he's at UF.
I agree Pool. Nothing has been proven with Walters. When M. Kruz took over, we steadily fell to 3-9
He's only been an OC here. I'd want to keep him so that we could keep that clown car running ,but what does he know about running the entire department?
It's good. Bargaining is next. Let's move this process along.
Transfer from a talented top 10 team to where? Nebraska and sit out a year? UCF along with USF, Houston, and Boise are best positioned to compete for conference championships and NY6 bowl births every year regardless of coach. If these players were getting offers from Alabama or Ohio State they wouldn't have been here in the first place.
Who are they and at? Its not Danny White's fault. They need to direct their anger at the right people.
Missing out on someone like Candle in order to have some short term success is dangerous. Then again, Walters might be a hell of a coach. He's just unproven and lacks experience.
They are mad at Frost and co. Said it would be "awkward" for them to coach the bowl game.
yep if you read up on Candle I bet most of the industry 'experts' might have in in the Top 5 of what is available to even some Power 5 teams
I like that Danny White gets players input but it makes me nervous for next season if he decides to hire Walters.
Walters did not sound very confident in his first presser as interim head coach.
Yeah, I understand. I saw my ex girlfriend at my sister's wedding while I was with my new girlfriend. They rejected my proposal to work together...
The more offensive minds the better. Candle/Walters is better than Walters/unknown OC.
and Josh Newberg was talking up Candle weeks ago. said he worked for 6 years as an assistant assigned to Florida, he would be coming in with better Florida ties than Frost
I'm not against giving Walters a full year.
Pros:
Pros:
- He knows the system, and he won't change it
- The players like him, have spent their time at UCF with him
- We're late to the "we need a coach" party, in a season with a lot of firings
- We got Frost early, waiting a year might be good for us, if Walters doesn't work out
If we are tossing around $2 million, I rather have a Candle that is winning at a smaller school with head coaching experience. Give Walters a big raise for loyalty.
I could be wrong but Danny White not even 48 hours ago called UCF the most attractive opening in the Nation, that doesn't sound like a guy that is going to settle on hiring from within.
He may try to get Candle to leave Walters & Beckton on staff
He may try to get Candle to leave Walters & Beckton on staff
I disagree. Candle is yet another system. Also, I see Candle as a Babers, yet another MAC HC. MAC HCs do not have much success at the next level. Sorry, I just don't see it. I think keeping Walters would be a better move.
I'm sure White had to market UCF ... yet, for 2018, Walters might be our best option, if we don't get a 'splash hire.' We really missed the entry point for the HC searching season. We were way, way late.
I'm all for giving Walters 2018 to prove himself.
I'm hoping for Candle or Elliot. Keep Walters and Beckton on the staff. I'm fine with Walters after we see him calling the plays in the near future. Maybe he will be the next man.
Babers is coaching at Syracuse with almost no div-1 talent in the state. It is the same problem as Uconn and other schools in the region. Don't assume he is a bad coach.
1) If you think Matt Campbell is not having success at Iowa State, you don't realize how epically bad that program is
2) Where did Saban get his first HC gig?
He's one of the few that have.
We really did awesome with hiring Frost. Many argued we needed change, and even I gave into that -- being an alleged 'GoL nuthugger' -- because the change was a great one. Again, even as I said "the grass always seems greener on the other side," when Frost was announced, I thought it was a great change (if we were going to make one).
Babers would not have been a great change.
I feel the same about Candle.
Do not change for change's sake. What's wrong with our program ... now? Oh, Walters isn't an established HC brand name? Sorry, he's been part of the system ... a system that works. He does the prep. He knows our system. He knows our players.
That's worth 1 more year, especially since we are so late to the coaching change party.
I'm for keeping Walters, and looking hard at Elliott. I prefer P5 coordinators, not non-AAC G5 HCs. I never knew Elliott's background.
- https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/12/04/ucf-coaching-search-troy-walters-tony-elliott
Whatever happens, I trust White to make the right decision. So when White announces it, and he's smart to make it happen in the next day or two, let's stick with it. And don't be surprised when it's Walters.
Although I fully expect to be pleasantly shocked if it's not Walters, just like with Frost.
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Don't insult the characters of our student-athletes. UCF is very different than, say, FAU, FIU or Miami.
You can't do that. Walters needs a long term contract in order to recruit. If you find a new coach next year, you have to buy Walter's buyout.
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Which is why you only give him 3 years with a low buy-out. He wants to stay, he'll take it. He knows if he produces, he'll get a new one at the end of next year.
It's certainly less of a buy-out than what Nebraska had to pay us for Frost.
Good. Same reason that everyone keeps Beckton. People like him. Walters can always be a co-OC/WR coach.
I just have that gut feeling that Walters would underachieve next season if given the HC job. Reminds me of LSU and Orgeron. Players and Fans emotions are too high right now that they can't step back and be objective.
I will fully support whom ever White hires. I really don't know who the best candidate is. The main thing is we get a guy who supports are university, we don't need another Benidict Arnold.
