President Obama Address
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I think ISIS believes that our direct boots on the ground involvement will help recruitment. And for a short time it might, until we slaughter them and their prophetic messages fall flat and people go home.
Guys as big a fággot as people who believe anything would be different if some puppet w an R next to his name was giving some address
And I know these terrorists were not on any no fly lists but ensuring that people on those lists can't get guns through legal measures is simply a common sense and good faith action . Movresdonbto fight that . Just don't hide any bull shit gun control measures with it
This has nothing to do with gun control. You're drinking the Obama kool-aid strong. They did this in one of the strongest gun control areas in the country. I'm pretty sure pipe booms are illegal too.
The terrorists just need more Obama laws and they will straighten out. They love to obey laws. Peace loving people and they love women.
The terrorists just need more Obama laws and they will straighten out. They love to obey laws. Peace loving people and they love women.
And Obama is just trying to shift blame on his failed foreign policy. The guy must look like the biggest pansy to Putin.
Meh, he blamed Congress saying they aren't supporting him because they haven't voted on the military action in Syria. They don't need to, that's why you're the commander in chief. Someone that is on the no fly list is not going to get a gun, nothing more than a straw man to get some type of gun control.
He doesn't want scrambled egg face hillary to have the debate on foreign policy. He wants it on gun control that has zero impact on terrorism. You have to try to switch the debate which is a smart political move.
I dont necessarily have a problem with banning people on the terror watch list or the no fly list. However, what is the process to get placed on those lists? Is there a vetting process where you can be removed from those lists? This is America after all, and we citizens do have these things called rights.
LOL at me drinking Obama Koolaid or being in favor of gun control. That's a joke but whatever. I am anti Obama and anti stupid measures of gun control. To hate on everything the man says and does just ruins credibility to actually speak out agianst bull shit gun control etc. Answer me a question @KNIGHTTIME^ . Do you think a person on a no fly list due to terror concerns should be able to buy a gun ?? My answer is hell no. I am not a criminal or suspected of crimes so I have no problems, I can buy all the guns and ammo I desire. What is possibly wrong with that ?
Should those people also lose the rights of freedom of speech, religion, a fair trial, ect.
Like I said. You must hate the constitution.
I don't think he hates the constitution. There's a difference between giving a suspected terrorist the right to free speech and the right to buy weapons. It'd be kind of crazy to allow people who want to attack us the ability to obtain a CWP.
President Obama address???
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About two thirds of the people on the watch list have no ties to extremism beyond knowing someone who does have known ties to extremism. It is also possible to be put on it if you choose to fly to certain countries, many of whom are peaceful and sorta friendly. I had a friend put on it after trips to Indonesia and Turkey in the same month on oil shipping business. Using that list to limit weapons purchases would be a bad idea.
I'm just surprised he said radical and Islam in the same speech.
This is the issue with the no-fly list. There are American citizens on that list that don't belong there. There is no good process in place to challenge your status on that list. So, you're taking away a fundamental right without any checks and balances that are normally provided. Also, with the cuts to defense and intel resources and acquisition, we simply don't have the ability to accurately establish the no-fly list.
Better would be to follow in the Netherlands footsteps and make it illegal for anyone who is not an American citizen to possess a firearm without having to go through an extensive application process.
No they shouldn't . But until they are cleared they shouldn't be able to buy a gun.
There are 70 Homeland Security employees on the no fly list.
You can't deny people a constitutional right without due process and based on the weakest suspicions. The no-fly list is a really low bar. But under invetigation or indictment should count.
You're the ****ing idiot who wants to take away peoples constitutional rights purely on suspicion. Not convicted of a crime but on suspicion.
All the rights in the Bill of Rights should be seen as interchangeable. Meaning restricting one for whatever reason, means all the other rights can be restricted for that exact same reason. So being on a no-fly list won't limit your freedom of speech and shall not limit your right to bear arms.
you just hate the second Amendment. You want to circumvent the constitutional process to amend an amendment by creating more bullshit arbitrary laws that seem convenient for your authoritarian government.
I hate stupid statist.
Honestly Bob would it surprise you to find out our government hired someone at homeland security with a sketchy background ?
Clearly btbones has never heard of the 4th amendment. And clearly he doesn't have a problem violating citizens constitutional rights if they are suspicious.
You wrote two sentences and they're both full of issues.
1. You don't legally take away the constitutional rights of citizens because they are "suspected" of doing something without it going through a court of law.
2. There is no more or less weight given to the first or the second amendment; they are both to be protected absolutely for US citizens.
3. You don't need a concealed weapons permit to own a gun. In most, if not all, states, they will run a background check to obtain a CWP. If you are a suspected terrorist, I'd assume this would come up on the FBI background check and you'd be denied a CWP.
4. Neither of these would've prevented any of the terrorist shootings as those perpetrators were not on the list nor did they possess (at least from what I've read) CWPs.
2. There are tons of laws that circumvent the 1st and 2nd amendments. All "gun laws" are against the 2nd amendment.
Who gets to decide which amendments are trampled? It seems liberals are AOK with taking away the 1st and 2nd from people they disagree with. Hitler did the same thing.
Ok Guys . I say the first ten thousand Syrian refugees to set foot in the USA get an AR. Then the rest get shotguns .
I agree, if they're just harmless widows and orphans like Obama says what do we have to worry about? We've got Obamacare and Obama phones, I want Obama ARs, those damn things are expensive.
QUESTION 1 (10 POINTS): President Obama said, “Congress should act to make sure no one on a No-Fly List is able to buy a gun." He then asked what could possibly be the argument against it?
A. The Second Amendment
B. The Fifth Amendment
C. The Sixth Amendment
D. The Ninth Amendment
E. All of the above
A. The Second Amendment
B. The Fifth Amendment
C. The Sixth Amendment
D. The Ninth Amendment
E. All of the above
Answer: E
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