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Ranking UCF's Rumored HC Candidates

The Dentist

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I would rank the rumored future UCF coaches as followed:
1.) Dino Babers
2.) Geoff Collins
3.) Randy Shannon
4.) Mario Cristobol
5.) Gene Chizik
6.) Brian Polian


For now I plan on only highlighting my favorite and least favorite candidates. If this is a success and people want my take on the other candidates I can try to do write ups on them as well. Hope you enjoy.


Dino Babers
Dino is far and away my favorite UCF Head Coach candidate. Babers gained experience working with some of the greatest offensive minds in football including June Jones, Mike Martz, and Art Briles. His personal offensive philosophy as a head coach came mostly from Baylor and Art Briles’ up-tempo, fast-paced, vertical spread offense that truly spreads the field. One of the trademarks of Baylor’s offensive is how closely the WR’s line up to the out of bounds line. This has several advantages as it takes the cornerbacks out of most running plays. Additionally, it makes life hellish for the safeties since the WR’s are lined up so far away from the line of scrimmage they quickly have to read run versus pass and then sprint to the WR stretching the field to prevent long passing plays. Babers took this offensive philosophy found success in Bowling Green the last two seasons. I could only imagine how his offense would thrive here at UCF with all the athletes we have in our state.

Babers understands the importance of the quarterback position and has proven he can develop a quarterback throughout his head-coaching career. He previously coached QB Jimmy Garoppolo who was drafted by the New England Patriots in the 2nd round of the 2014 NFL Draft. Currently, he has coached up QB Matt Johnson a Redshirt Senior to 4,465 passing yards, a 68.9% completion rate, and 41 touchdowns with only 6 interceptions.

On the recruiting trail Babers has done a pretty decent job as well. He was the recruiting coordinator for Baylor for a period of time, which is impressive considering they had RG3, Kendall Wright, and Josh Gordon. I also value the fact that he already recruits Florida pretty hard despite being in Ohio. In Babers 2015 recruiting class 8 out of the 25 players he signed were from Florida.

He has proven he can turn around a team fast. Prior to Dino Babers arrival at Eastern Illinois the team had gone 2-9 in back to back years. In his first year at Eastern Illinois he coached them to a 7-5 record; his first year on the job he won 3 more games than the team had won in the two previous years ‘combined.’ The following year he improved even further leading the team to a 12-2 record. In his first year at Bowling Green he amassed a 8-6 record despite losing his starting QB for the season to injury in the very first game. This year he improved the team to 9-3 with his only losses coming against Tennessee, Memphis (a 3 point loss), and Toledo. That being said I’d love to see what he could accomplish here at UCF.



Brian Polian
On the flipside we have Brian Polian who would represent the nepotism often found in the George O’Leary era. There are just too many connections to ignore in my opinion. Polian has UCF and George O’Leary ties as a former running backs coach at UCF in 2004. He then coached at Notre Dame, which happens to be UCF AD Danny White’s alma mater. Ironically, Danny White’s father was the Athletic Director of Notre Dame while Brian Polian coached there. Polian and Danny White also have ties to Buffalo University where White served as AD and Polian served as a positional coach there; their time at Buffalo did not overlap. Like I said, there are a lot of connections there.

Polian in my opinion would represent Brent Key 2.0; someone that has been given all the opportunities in the world to succeed but has done nothing remarkable. His resume is impressive with stints at Notre Dame, Stanford, and Texas A&M prior to becoming Head Coach at Nevada. That being said, he never was an offensive or defensive coordinator. The year prior to becoming Nevada’s Head Coach he served as Texas A&M’s tight end and special teams coach. That unusual jumping from those roles to a head coaching position obviously shows how much his last name (he is the son of former NFL executive Bill Polian) and connections could do for him.

Now lets dive into Polian’s recruiting. The year before Brian Polian took over as Stanford’s recruiting coordinator the team went 8-5 and still managed to sign 5 four star, 15 three star, and 2 two star recruits. In 2011, he was the recruiting coordinator for Stanford, the team went 12-1 that year under Jim Harbaugh’s leadership. In his 2011 recruiting class Polian was responsible for 7 four star, 11 three star, and 1 two star recruits according to rivals. The year after Polian was Stanford’s recruiting coordinator the team went 12-2 and got 3 five star, 10 four star, and 9 three star recruits. By correlating Stanford’s records to how they recruited you can see just how poorly Polian was as a recruiter. At Nevada Polian has never signed a four star recruit and have never signed more than 5 three star prospects in a given year. In his last two year recruiting classes he only signed 3 three star recruits.

Now that we covered lets talk football and X’s and O’s. In 2013, Brian Polian took over as Nevada’s Head Coach after longtime coach and innovator of the pistol offensive Chris Ault retired. Ault turned over the program to Polian in good condition. Nevada had 5 straight winning seasons and had 27-13 record over the previous 3 years. In Polian’s first year Nevada had a 4-8 record. The last time Nevada won less than 5 games was in 2001, 12 years prior. In 2014 he improved Nevada’s record to 7-6 and this year they are currently 6-5. There is absolutely no way that someone could look at those results and say that Polian is qualified for the UCF job.

Brian Polian’s sideline antics have been criticized as well. Earlier this year, Polian was called for two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties were he screamed and chased referees throughout the game. His antics were so bad that the University of Nevada ended up fining him $10,000 for his sideline behavior. The alarming issue is that event took place after the Mountain West Conference publicly reprimanded Polian for criticizing the officiating the previous year, warning him that a second time could bring stiffer penalties. Like George O’Leary he seems to leave motivation up to the players themselves as this post-game quote seems errily similar to something that GOL would say:

“You could say, ‘Coach, that’s your job,’ and it is,” Polian said of firing up his players. “Trust me, the staff was up and down the sideline trying to make sure the team was into it. But ultimately, and any former athlete knows this, there’s got to be some leaderships on your club. They have to follow each other and bring each other along, and personally I didn’t think that happened on Saturday.”
 
Surprised Baylor's Kendal Briles (son of Art Briles) is not being mentioned.

  • Named B12 Recruiter of the Year in 2013 & 2014
  • Mentored 4 All-Americans & 5 NFL Prospects
  • Top 5 Ranked Passing Attack (2011-2014)
  • Young @ 33
 
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Please leave that Baylor style offense for Big 12 and high school teams. If that what Babers brings then he can stay where he is.
You do realize that Bowling Green has the 5th best offense in the nation in terms of yards per game and they score the 5th most points per game; UCF ranked 128th and 128th (dead last) in those respective categories. The Baylor style offense you want to avoid ranks 1st in yards per game and 1st in points per game out of the entire FBS (1-A).
 
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Surprised Baylor's Kendal Briles (son of Art Briles) is not being mentioned.

  • Named B12 Recruiter of the Year in 2013 & 2014
  • Mentored 4 All-Americans & 5 NFL Prospects
  • Top 5 Ranked Passing Attack (2011-2014)
  • Young @ 33
I think he's a strong candidate, but I haven't heard many rumors about him coming to UCF so I left him off the list. He'd probably rank 3rd on my list if he did have a legitimate shot of landing our coaching gig.
 
You do realize that Bowling Green has the 5th best offense in the nation in terms of yards per game and they score the 5th most points per game; UCF ranked 128th and 128th (dead last) in those respective categories. The Baylor style offense you want to avoid ranks 1st in yards per game and 1st in points per game out of the entire FBS (1-A).
That's nice. They were the most prolific offense in the country in 2014 too. With equal or even slightly less talent, a solid defense and a ball control offense will beat a spread offense/tired defense 8 times out of ten. That was the brilliance of the good GOL years. Just ask Tulsa and Houston.
 
That's nice. They were the most prolific offense in the country in 2014 too. With equal or even slightly less talent, a solid defense and a ball control offense will beat a spread offense/tired defense 8 times out of ten. That was the brilliance of the good GOL years. Just ask Tulsa and Houston.
There is a snow ball effect when you run an offense that completely devalues TOP.

Bowling Green gave up 59 points to Tennessee bc of this.

It's more demoralizing to watch a Defense that can't stop anybody than a struggling offense
 
That's nice. They were the most prolific offense in the country in 2014 too. With equal or even slightly less talent, a solid defense and a ball control offense will beat a spread offense/tired defense 8 times out of ten. That was the brilliance of the good GOL years. Just ask Tulsa and Houston.
Of which we have neither now. Look how long it took GOL to build up our program and look how fast it caved with that philosophy. Yes, you won't get blown out of games with that philosophy (although this years results beg to differ) but you have to have considerably more talent to be successful with that strategy. Look at how many players we put into the NFL those years we beat Tulsa and Houston compared to how many they put into the NFL. We beat them but we had the talent to do so.
 
Of which we have neither now. Look how long it took GOL to build up our program and look how fast it caved with that philosophy. Yes, you won't get blown out of games with that philosophy (although this years results beg to differ) but you have to have considerably more talent to be successful with that strategy. Look at how many players we put into the NFL those years we beat Tulsa and Houston compared to how many they put into the NFL. We beat them but we had the talent to do so.

You can run a version of the Spread Offense but still value TOP to help your defense.

I prefer Dan Mullen's(whose QB coach by the way is good friends w Collins) version of the Spread over the Babers/Briles spread
 
There is a snow ball effect when you run an offense that completely devalues TOP.

Bowling Green gave up 59 points to Tennessee bc of this.

It's more demoralizing to watch a Defense that can't stop anybody than a struggling offense
I will agree with you about the snow ball effect, but your comparing what Bowling Green did against Tennessee. There was no way Bowling Green had a shot of winning that game. Additionally, Bowling Green scored 30 points on Tennessee. Tennessee only allowed 3 out of the 11 teams they played this year to score 30+ points on them and Bowling Green was one of those schools; the other two teams only scored 31 points. That being said, BG was 1 point away from putting up more points against Tennessee than anyone else this year. That's impressive if you ask me.
 
You can run a version of the Spread Offense but still value TOP to help your defense.

I prefer Dan Mullen's(whose QB coach by the way is good friends w Collins) version of the Spread over the Babers/Briles spread
Actually, I think you would like Babers' offensive if you watched it. He changed about 30% of the offense from Baylor's because he had to account for the worst weather conditions of Ohio. He implemented a lot more running plays and plays under center for the cold and or wet weather (compared to Waco, Texas).

Don't get me wrong I love Collins as a potential HC here too though. That guy gets how to motivate 18-23 year olds.
 
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Surprised Baylor's Kendal Briles (son of Art Briles) is not being mentioned.

  • Named B12 Recruiter of the Year in 2013 & 2014
  • Mentored 4 All-Americans & 5 NFL Prospects
  • Top 5 Ranked Passing Attack (2011-2014)
  • Young @ 33

His dad is in his 60's, I'm sure he'll stick it out learning from him and become the next HC there. Don't want to take the risk of going to make a name for himself then failing and losing the Baylor job, just stick it out as OC till dad retires.
 
His dad is in his 60's, I'm sure he'll stick it out learning from him and become the next HC there. Don't want to take the risk of going to make a name for himself then failing and losing the Baylor job, just stick it out as OC till dad retires.
quoting his Father "I was born in Texas, I'll die in Texas"

That family is never leaving that State
 
Actually, I think you would like Babers' offensive if you watched it. He changed about 30% of the offense from Baylor's because he had to account for the worst weather conditions of Ohio. He implemented a lot more running plays and plays under center for the cold and or wet weather (compared to Waco, Texas).

Don't get me wrong I love Collins as a potential HC here too though. That guy gets how to motivate 18-23 year olds.

I think Babers ends up somewhere like Mizzou. Even if UCF wanted him he could put us in a holding pattern waiting for interviews at other places and further wasting more recruiting time for players and assistants. All this with a State recruiting territory he is not real familiar with. If Danny White's Press Conference was any indication I don't think he has the patience for that. It's much more likely that Collins accepts immediately and starts working on forming a staff.
 
I think hiring Collins (or any coach that can recruit) asap will pay huge dividends. With Miles leaving LSU and potentially Jimbo Fisher replacing him, this will cause mass confusion and I think some recruits will be in flux and we can potentially poach a few. Hope we hire Collins soon.
 
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You know Brandon and others have reported the final four candidates who are being interviewed right?

 
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you mean copying and pasting from Football scoop?

Bruce Feldman is rarely wrong

Football Scoop credits Brandon:

"UCF: Brandon Helwig who does an excellent job covering UCF for UCFSports.com reports tonight that the four coaches Danny White intends to interview for the position are the same four we wrote about Tuesday: Dino Babers, Geoff Collins, Randy Shannon & Gene Chizik."

As for Feldman...

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...sources-considering-stepping-down-2014-080914
 
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Football Scoop credits Brandon:

"UCF: Brandon Helwig who does an excellent job covering UCF for UCFSports.com reports tonight that the four coaches Danny White intends to interview for the position are the same four we wrote about Tuesday: Dino Babers, Geoff Collins, Randy Shannon & Gene Chizik."

As for Feldman...

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...sources-considering-stepping-down-2014-080914
well considering how GOL ran the ship with players news & alleged scandals, UCF was a tough program to get accurate leaks from with the grump still in the Football building.

That is not the case now
 
I would rank the rumored future UCF coaches as followed:
1.) Dino Babers
2.) Geoff Collins
3.) Randy Shannon
4.) Mario Cristobol
5.) Gene Chizik
6.) Brian Polian


For now I plan on only highlighting my favorite and least favorite candidates. If this is a success and people want my take on the other candidates I can try to do write ups on them as well. Hope you enjoy.


Dino Babers
Dino is far and away my favorite UCF Head Coach candidate. Babers gained experience working with some of the greatest offensive minds in football including June Jones, Mike Martz, and Art Briles. His personal offensive philosophy as a head coach came mostly from Baylor and Art Briles’ up-tempo, fast-paced, vertical spread offense that truly spreads the field. One of the trademarks of Baylor’s offensive is how closely the WR’s line up to the out of bounds line. This has several advantages as it takes the cornerbacks out of most running plays. Additionally, it makes life hellish for the safeties since the WR’s are lined up so far away from the line of scrimmage they quickly have to read run versus pass and then sprint to the WR stretching the field to prevent long passing plays. Babers took this offensive philosophy found success in Bowling Green the last two seasons. I could only imagine how his offense would thrive here at UCF with all the athletes we have in our state.

Babers understands the importance of the quarterback position and has proven he can develop a quarterback throughout his head-coaching career. He previously coached QB Jimmy Garoppolo who was drafted by the New England Patriots in the 2nd round of the 2014 NFL Draft. Currently, he has coached up QB Matt Johnson a Redshirt Senior to 4,465 passing yards, a 68.9% completion rate, and 41 touchdowns with only 6 interceptions.

On the recruiting trail Babers has done a pretty decent job as well. He was the recruiting coordinator for Baylor for a period of time, which is impressive considering they had RG3, Kendall Wright, and Josh Gordon. I also value the fact that he already recruits Florida pretty hard despite being in Ohio. In Babers 2015 recruiting class 8 out of the 25 players he signed were from Florida.

He has proven he can turn around a team fast. Prior to Dino Babers arrival at Eastern Illinois the team had gone 2-9 in back to back years. In his first year at Eastern Illinois he coached them to a 7-5 record; his first year on the job he won 3 more games than the team had won in the two previous years ‘combined.’ The following year he improved even further leading the team to a 12-2 record. In his first year at Bowling Green he amassed a 8-6 record despite losing his starting QB for the season to injury in the very first game. This year he improved the team to 9-3 with his only losses coming against Tennessee, Memphis (a 3 point loss), and Toledo. That being said I’d love to see what he could accomplish here at UCF.



Brian Polian
On the flipside we have Brian Polian who would represent the nepotism often found in the George O’Leary era. There are just too many connections to ignore in my opinion. Polian has UCF and George O’Leary ties as a former running backs coach at UCF in 2004. He then coached at Notre Dame, which happens to be UCF AD Danny White’s alma mater. Ironically, Danny White’s father was the Athletic Director of Notre Dame while Brian Polian coached there. Polian and Danny White also have ties to Buffalo University where White served as AD and Polian served as a positional coach there; their time at Buffalo did not overlap. Like I said, there are a lot of connections there.

Polian in my opinion would represent Brent Key 2.0; someone that has been given all the opportunities in the world to succeed but has done nothing remarkable. His resume is impressive with stints at Notre Dame, Stanford, and Texas A&M prior to becoming Head Coach at Nevada. That being said, he never was an offensive or defensive coordinator. The year prior to becoming Nevada’s Head Coach he served as Texas A&M’s tight end and special teams coach. That unusual jumping from those roles to a head coaching position obviously shows how much his last name (he is the son of former NFL executive Bill Polian) and connections could do for him.

Now lets dive into Polian’s recruiting. The year before Brian Polian took over as Stanford’s recruiting coordinator the team went 8-5 and still managed to sign 5 four star, 15 three star, and 2 two star recruits. In 2011, he was the recruiting coordinator for Stanford, the team went 12-1 that year under Jim Harbaugh’s leadership. In his 2011 recruiting class Polian was responsible for 7 four star, 11 three star, and 1 two star recruits according to rivals. The year after Polian was Stanford’s recruiting coordinator the team went 12-2 and got 3 five star, 10 four star, and 9 three star recruits. By correlating Stanford’s records to how they recruited you can see just how poorly Polian was as a recruiter. At Nevada Polian has never signed a four star recruit and have never signed more than 5 three star prospects in a given year. In his last two year recruiting classes he only signed 3 three star recruits.

Now that we covered lets talk football and X’s and O’s. In 2013, Brian Polian took over as Nevada’s Head Coach after longtime coach and innovator of the pistol offensive Chris Ault retired. Ault turned over the program to Polian in good condition. Nevada had 5 straight winning seasons and had 27-13 record over the previous 3 years. In Polian’s first year Nevada had a 4-8 record. The last time Nevada won less than 5 games was in 2001, 12 years prior. In 2014 he improved Nevada’s record to 7-6 and this year they are currently 6-5. There is absolutely no way that someone could look at those results and say that Polian is qualified for the UCF job.

Brian Polian’s sideline antics have been criticized as well. Earlier this year, Polian was called for two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties were he screamed and chased referees throughout the game. His antics were so bad that the University of Nevada ended up fining him $10,000 for his sideline behavior. The alarming issue is that event took place after the Mountain West Conference publicly reprimanded Polian for criticizing the officiating the previous year, warning him that a second time could bring stiffer penalties. Like George O’Leary he seems to leave motivation up to the players themselves as this post-game quote seems errily similar to something that GOL would say:

“You could say, ‘Coach, that’s your job,’ and it is,” Polian said of firing up his players. “Trust me, the staff was up and down the sideline trying to make sure the team was into it. But ultimately, and any former athlete knows this, there’s got to be some leaderships on your club. They have to follow each other and bring each other along, and personally I didn’t think that happened on Saturday.”

One of the best posts I've seen here. A+. You should be a 3 star recruit now. You sold me on Dino Babers.

I'm going to point out the obvious. GOL always said, and all real fans know everyone has athletes and big guys. The toughest thing to find is big athletes. GOL knew that and never developed a system or plan to account for that. A spread offense takes all of that into account. It fit for where UCF is at right now and for a few years ahead.
 
That's nice. They were the most prolific offense in the country in 2014 too. With equal or even slightly less talent, a solid defense and a ball control offense will beat a spread offense/tired defense 8 times out of ten. That was the brilliance of the good GOL years. Just ask Tulsa and Houston.

...and Baylor (Fiesta Bowl).
 
One of the best posts I've seen here. A+. You should be a 3 star recruit now. You sold me on Dino Babers.

I'm going to point out the obvious. GOL always said, and all real fans know everyone has athletes and big guys. The toughest thing to find is big athletes. GOL knew that and never developed a system or plan to account for that. A spread offense takes all of that into account. It fit for where UCF is at right now and for a few years ahead.
The dentist is definitely a real fan.
 
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ok I was right about Mizzou or other schools being interested[laughing]. If Danny White has an agreement in principle it seems like a lot of people think UCF outkicked its coverage coming off an 0-12 season
 
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