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Doesn't hurt thst he's buddy-buddy with Phil Knight. In fact, I don't think custom anything gets made wighout that connection.
 
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UCF Alumni better have a plan to keep him in Otown. At some point he's going to be made offers which we'd better be prepared to counter.
I would say after next year. However, if we get into the P5 this could be his baby. Like one of those immortal coaches who stays around forever. Ultimately, it's a lot about the money and how he's treated.

IMO Nebraska is not a better gig and they are winning, so they are unlikely to fire their coach.
 
What about Oregon?


Just going with the original post of us maybe getting P5, then I'd think he'd laugh if Oregon came calling. Just judging on past comments of how difficult it was getting Fla. kids to go to Oregon, compared to getting kids to walk across the street and see a P5 UCF. No P5, then he leaves.
 
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Just going with the original post of us maybe getting P5, then I'd think he'd laugh if Oregon came calling. Just judging on past comments of how difficult it was getting Fla. kids to go to Oregon, compared to getting kids to walk across the street and see a P5 UCF. No P5, then he leaves.
If we don't get to P5, then at the present course after the 2017 season is a real worry.

Honestly, with P5, I truly believe that this would be a top 10-15 job in the nation. The ceiling is unlimited. The pressure to win big is actually very low here compared to a lot of big name schools.
 
Ultimately I thinf Frost will be better than Kelly because of his energy, youth and charisma. High school and young college kids can relate to him well. He's very player friendly.
 
Just going with the original post of us maybe getting P5, then I'd think he'd laugh if Oregon came calling. Just judging on past comments of how difficult it was getting Fla. kids to go to Oregon, compared to getting kids to walk across the street and see a P5 UCF. No P5, then he leaves.

yeah he's mentioned that in the Spring about the playing close to home selling point that won with Killins for example. He can load up this offense with undersized speedsters and be very successful. It's a great geographical fit for his offense.

UCF can't compete financially with Oregon, Nebraska, etc staying in the G5. Without a Big12 invite or another P5 soon it will be tough to keep him when they are offering to double or even triple his salary. The only equalizer is location and quality of life that might keep him here longer than most expect. If you polled D1 jobs just on where coaches would prefer to live, UCF would be near the top of the list
 
It's important to remember that by all accounts Frost was offered P5 HC jobs already and turned them down (Maryland and Syracuse - two prestigious universities in big conferences but severely disadvantaged in football terms when compared to the heavyweights in their conference). So we know he wants to be somewhere with a built-in advantage over the rest of the conference he's in because that = wins.

Question to everyone: How many P5 level jobs like that do you think there are in the country? Places like Michigan and Ohio State who can almost always be counted on to pound on the Indiana's and Purdue's of their P5 conference.
 
It's important to remember that by all accounts Frost was offered P5 HC jobs already and turned them down (Maryland and Syracuse - two prestigious universities in big conferences but severely disadvantaged in football terms when compared to the heavyweights in their conference). So we know he wants to be somewhere with a built-in advantage over the rest of the conference he's in because that = wins.

Question to everyone: How many P5 level jobs like that do you think there are in the country? Places like Michigan and Ohio State who can almost always be counted on to pound on the Indiana's and Purdue's of their P5 conference.
I wasn't aware that he turned down the Maryland job. It's not a bad job. I think UCF is paying Frost $1.7 million and Durkin is making 2.5 million. I think the Syracuse job is somewhere between the 2. No way that the Syracuse job will ever be better than UCF.

I'm sure UCF can pay him 2.5-3.0 miliion as a G5 coach, but probably not higher, because he will ask for raises for the assistants.

Can fans and alumni/boosters "donate" Frost and coaches money directly? Don't they pay the mortgage on Nick Saban's house?
 
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Yes, alumni and booster donations do make a difference. More money in the pool to split.
 
I wasn't aware that he turned down the Maryland job.

Yep, that came out just before we faced Maryland this year.

Frost’s family confirmed to The World-Herald that he got three coaching offers on the same day: Syracuse, Maryland and Central Florida.

Frost said no to Syracuse of the ACC and Maryland of the Big Ten. Instead, he signed with UCF — a program coming off an 0-12 season and playing in the non-Power Five American Athletic Conference.

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/footba...cle_0ca5a364-77a0-11e6-9049-9fbe8a33cf92.html
 
So., I just read that Mike
Riley of Nebraska gets 2.7 miliion a year before bonuses. It's not a ridiculous difference from what UCF could pay.
 
Yes, alumni and booster donations do make a difference. More money in the pool to split.
Correct. The great myth is that it's all about economics. It's more like a huge country club. Virtually all athletic programs lose money -- they are set up to spend it all (and then some). But donor are what makes it work. Whoever has the fattest donors can offer the most. While oil was king, LSU as well as the Big 12 schools could thumb their noses at the economics. Now with oil barons bleeding money, big coaching packages may shift elsewhere and also begin to stabilize.
 
Correct. The great myth is that it's all about economics. It's more like a huge country club. Virtually all athletic programs lose money -- they are set up to spend it all (and then some). But donor are what makes it work. Whoever has the fattest donors can offer the most. While oil was king, LSU as well as the Big 12 schools could thumb their noses at the economics. Now with oil barons bleeding money, big coaching packages may shift elsewhere and also begin to stabilize.
Oil barons are killing it right now. Profits are better than ever.
 
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