Refreshed, a little recharged and some reflecting

[Nautiknight]

This is a sappy post,and not filled with conflict. lol. I just got back from Orlando. I flew down from Asheville on Friday. I was so excited. I was off of oxygen for a couple days and my doctor said go. I could not wait to see my son.

The last time I saw him I was sick as a dog and heading to the hospital. All the unknowns from Covid , I quietly didn't know if he was going to see me alive again.I didn't burden him with those thoughts. I gave him a hug and told him I loved him. The day of my discharge his flight departed Asheville at 3 or 4 PM the same time the nurses said, you're going home today. The funny thing is we live about an hour west of Asheville and my wife drops our son off and she gets home and I call her and say ,hey I am being discharged. She was like reall.y? I said really, really.

I get on the Allegiant A320 at 7:30 AM and I am just happy, really happy . It was a kind of joy that I have not had in a while and I notice 3 other UCF fans too which kind of cool. The pilot safely gets us to Sanford and I get my rental car and head to visit my boy. I pick him around 11 and I give him a huge hug and it was just great.

While I don't agree with what my wife did but she did prepare him for the worse outcome. My son within a 3 week period experienced two events where his dad had the very real potential of dieing. The first was when I swam after my boat for over 2.5 hours in the ocean and the other I was hospitalized for covid pneumonia. So, seeing him and spending the weekend together was just gold.

I had a chance to reflect this weekend about the last month, the events I experienced and how thankful I am for coming out on top when those events could have had another outcome. I thought about the debates here and other forums I am a member of and while it's fun at times ,I realized it's also divisive . We only live once and some of us like SCKnight have had it end too soon. I am thankful for all that I have and have gone through too.

I spent the three days away from the WC and similar places and it was refreshing. I focused on my son, the game , spending some time with my brother and watching the MKs. It was blissful in so many ways. I am glad to be alive .

I left my son's apartment around 5 pm or so and headed to Sanford to return my car and get a bite to eat and head back to NC. It reminded me of the day I dropped Cole off at his apartment when he was Freshman. pulling away to head home was a tough nugget for me. Sunday was similar but for different reasons . He is head and shoulders more mature now. so, that wasn't it. It was I realized how much my kids and him means to me and it was a touch of wow, I could have been gone, twice no less , and he would not have a dad in his young life. Sobering and at the same time , it was we had one of the best weekends together and I didn't want it to end.

So, to all who reads this. Give your family a hug. Tell them how much they mean to you and live
.Go out and live ,have an adventure, do your thing and enjoy this life. You only get one. GKCO!

 

[DaShuckster]

The last time I saw him I was sick as a dog and heading to the hospital. All the unknowns from Covid , I quietly didn't know if he was going to see me alive again.

We're all glad to hear that things worked out well for your son and all of you.

I thought about the debates here and other forums I am a member of and while it's fun at times, I realized it's also divisive.

When it comes to the silly covid "debate" going on here, can you understand NOW why some of us are so frustrated about it? You could have lost your son -- and you might not have survived...and for what?

What 'freedom' where you 'fighting' for? Vaccines have been a part of our medical health culture for as long as we've all been alive.

 

[Nautiknight]

We're all glad to hear that things worked out well for your son and all of you.

When it comes to the silly covid "debate" going on here, can you understand NOW why some of us are so frustrated about it? You could have lost your son -- and you might not have survived...and for what?

What 'freedom' where you 'fighting' for? Vaccines have been a part of our medical health culture for as long as we've all been alive.

Shuck, I don't want to debate anything here. I was NEVER antivax . never. I just waited too long and Covid beat me to it. it's just that simple. What I am though is a scientist. I am skeptical by nature and question most things.

I called a good friend in Port Orange when I landed and told him my update. He said he was going to a funeral Saturday. He had a friend in his church in his early 50s get the vax last week and was dead in 72 hours from it. I don't see the vaccine as the ultimate solution here and I see it's flaws and it's benefits . I went to a friend's funeral a week ago Sunday.Covid killed him. He was fully vaxxed ,and offered no early treatment what so ever. The virus sucks no matter how you slice it or where you sit on these issues. Please, don't lose your humanity towards those who see life a little different especially with the pandemic. Vax or no vax our nation has been turned upside down by this and hundreds of thousands paid the ultimate price regardless.

So, thank you. I am wanting to share some good news, not debate ,not to point fingers, rather just rejoice on being on the other side of it all. I went to a football game and just lived in the moment of each day . It was special.

 

[DaShuckster]

What I am though is a scientist. I am skeptical by nature and question most things.

um, okay

I called a good friend in Port Orange when I landed and told him my update. He said he was going to a funeral Saturday. He had a friend in his church in his early 50s get the vax last week and was dead in 72 hours from it.

That makes FOUR fully-vaxed people you've mentioned here who died from the vax. You should apply for a Guinness Book of Records notation.

 

[Nautiknight]

um, okay

That makes FOUR fully-vaxed people you've mentioned here who died from the vax. You should apply for a Guinness Book of Records notation.

I think the difference between you and I is I am not vested ,for what ever reason, In holding a particular view here.. I am open minded to the reality of it all. Three people died directly as a result of getting the shot
The only person I personally know who died from the disease was fully vaxxed. I know about 30 people though who got Covid and are just fine. That's a window on my world Shuck. It's the truth . You can accept it or reject it !but it doesn't change the fact that those 3 lives were cut short by the vaccine itself and the 4th live cut short the vaccine did zero to stop it. It's far from perfect but it's the best we got in trying to prevent infection. The thing we do a piss poor job is early treatment.

I do hold a degree in biology from UCF and a masters degree in environmental planning and resource management from FSU.. While I don't use my degrees anymlre per se , I also didn't lose it all either. lol.

It's a great day to be alive ....

 

[Crazyhole]

If only 1 life can be saved...........

 

[DaShuckster]

I think the difference between you and I is I am not vested, for what ever reason, In holding a particular view here.. I am open minded to the reality of it all.

Yeah, you've shown your 'open-mindedness' on this subject time and time again.

Three people died directly as a result of getting the shot...

Don't forget the news about a fourth death you shared with the board today that came from a good friend from Orange county.

Screw the astronomical odds of all this happening within Nautiknight's world, people, he is sincere and has no vested interest!

 

[The Branch]

That is hard to watch. 😭

Hard to watch but necessary. There is something seriously wrong with this vaccine. It may work for most .... but it is messing up way more people than it should.

 

[RobUCF]

I think the difference between you and I is I am not vested ,for what ever reason, In holding a particular view here.. I am open minded to the reality of it all. Three people died directly as a result of getting the shot
The only person I personally know who died from the disease was fully vaxxed. I know about 30 people though who got Covid and are just fine. That's a window on my world Shuck. It's the truth . You can accept it or reject it !but it doesn't change the fact that those 3 lives were cut short by the vaccine itself and the 4th live cut short the vaccine did zero to stop it. It's far from perfect but it's the best we got in trying to prevent infection. The thing we do a piss poor job is early treatment.

I do hold a degree in biology from UCF and a masters degree in environmental planning and resource management from FSU.. While I don't use my degrees anymlre per se , I also didn't lose it all either. lol.

It's a great day to be alive ....

I very much enjoyed your original post and don't really want to debate the vaccine, but Shuckster does have a point. The odds of death from receiving the vaccine are between 2-4 per million or just slightly higher than being struck by lightning. If you, in fact, have had three friends die from the vaccine then you either have well over a million friends or are extremely unlucky. I'll take you at your word and just state that your case is far, far, from typical. You seem like a nice guy, but I'd quickly pass on being a friend of yours because it seems you may be carrying an ancient curse of some kind.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I very much enjoyed your original post and don't really want to debate the vaccine, but Shuckster does have a point. The odds of death from receiving the vaccine are between 2-4 per million or just slightly higher than being struck by lightning. If you, in fact, have had three friends die from the vaccine then you either have well over a million friends or are extremely unlucky. I'll take you at your word and just state that your case is far, far, from typical. You seem like a nice guy, but I'd quickly pass on being a friend of yours because it seems you may be caring an ancient curse of some kind.

He may know a handful of people who died recently. And given that 75% of the adult population has been vaccinated, it logically follows that there is a decent chance that anyone who died at this point is dying after receiving a Covid vaccine.

 

[fried-chicken]

but it doesn't change the fact that those 3 lives were cut short by the vaccine itself

Yeah ok 👍

 

[RobUCF]

He may know a handful of people who died recently. And given that 75% of the adult population has been vaccinated, it logically follows that there is a decent chance that anyone who died at this point is dying after receiving a Covid vaccine.

But he is stating that he know 3 people that died directly as a result of the vaccine.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

But he is stating that he know 3 people that died directly as a result of the vaccine.

Yeah. I’d be skeptical of that claim.

 

[The Branch]

Yeah. I’d be skeptical of that claim.

I know one person that died (a very good friends dad) and I know myself, who very nearly did.

Does that count?

Get your head out of the sand.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Almost nobody is dying directly from the vaccines. Show me a study from a medical journal, not hearsay

 

[UCFBS]

The problem is that mRNA continues to be an incomplete vector ... and the pro-vax crowd has become as bad as the anti-vax crowd.

As I posted in another thread ... we have a delusional political base backed by US and Social Media assumption utter odds with authorities and experts who are tired of the data not matching what we're doing.

The US and Social Media and Politicians continue to throw sh-- at the wall, and not only don't wait to see if it sticks, but lie about it sticking.

In a new review, some F.D.A. scientists and others say boosters aren’t needed for the general population. (Published 2021)

The benefits of a third shot for most people are small and are far outweighed by the benefits of using those doses for initial vaccinations, the scientists say.

www.nytimes.com

QUOTE: "None of the data on coronavirus vaccines so far provides credible evidence in support of boosters for the general population, according to a review published on Monday by an international group of scientists, including some at the Food and Drug Administration and the World Health Organization. The 18 authors include Dr. Philip Krause and Dr. Marion Gruber, F.D.A. scientists who announced last month that they will be leaving the agency, at least in part because they disagreed with the Biden administration’s push for boosters before federal scientists could review the evidence and make recommendations ... many scientists have opposed the plan, saying the vaccines continue to be powerfully protective against severe illness and hospitalization. A committee of advisers to the F.D.A. is scheduled to meet on Friday to review the data ... the vaccines hold steady against severe illness in all age groups ... The experts cautioned that promoting boosters before they are needed, as well as any reports of side effects from booster shots such as heart problems or Guillain-Barre syndrome, may undermine confidence in the primary vaccination."​

Also ... because at this point, we should be focused on vaccinating the rest of the world. Why? Either the mRNA vaccines are doing nothing significant against the spread (which the US NIH predicted in 2020 July, and called for alternatives to be developed as well), or the spread and variants is not due to the developed world, but the 3rd world economies not even reaching 20% or even 10% vaccinated, because the Israelis have been vaccinating like mad.

The Covid spike in highly vaccinated Israel holds grim omens for other economies

Israel's vaccination drive was a shining model. But its late-summer Covid-19 spike holds reasons for other countries to worry about coronavirus surges in their own near futures.

qz.com

We really haven't been listening to the Israelis, or our own authorities at all ... and railroading things in either 'hope' (which is semi-admirable ... until people lie about the results, and refuse to believe them) or just flat out 'assumption' (which is just ignorance). That's what kills me. At some point it has to stop. We have to stop the mob of 3rd graders controlling a very false, very irresponsible, narrative that is utterly untrue and spreading repeat falsehoods.

 

[Ucfmikes]

The problem is that mRNA continues to be an incomplete vector ... and the pro-vax crowd has become as bad as the anti-vax crowd.

As I posted in another thread ... we have a delusional political base backed by US and Social Media assumption utter odds with authorities and experts who are tired of the data not matching what we're doing.

I thought that you were going to spare us manifestos and promised to take a break in your own words. Didn’t you make a whole “it’s about me” thread dedicated to that?

Stop acting like a third grader. For the 1000th time over the past several months the vaccines are relatively safe, free, and help prevent hospitalizations and death. Yet you keep posting these anti-vaxx, anti-government, and anti- big Pharma rants to get attention and to feed your insecurities.

ONCE AGAIN…, why is an IT expert acting like the world’s foremost expert in vaccines and COVID, but posts in the Dungeon behind a paywall and the Water Cooler which is a cesspool?

 

[UCFBS]

I thought that you were going to spare us manifestos

Obviously you cannot even word count. Don't worry, you guys are still taking up 10x the scroll-bar.

and promised to take a break in your own words. Didn’t you make a whole “it’s about me” thread dedicated to that?

And you guys still won't stop tagging me, and are getting even more people to respond to me when I'm not even posting.

At some point, you're utter hypocrisy is just laughable.

Stop acting like a third grader. For the 1000th time over the past several months the vaccines are relatively safe, free, and help prevent hospitalizations and death.

When did I disagree with this? Why do you keep arguing with someone who doesn't exist?

Meanwhile ... you still haven't admitted you were utterly wrong about the spread, among countless other things. You have no credibility.

Yet you keep posting these anti-vaxx, anti-government, and anti- big Pharma rants to get attention and to feed your insecurities.

Sigh ...

ONCE AGAIN…, why is an IT expert acting like the world’s foremost expert in vaccines and COVID, but posts in the Dungeon behind a paywall and the Water Cooler which is a cesspool?

I was never an expert. But now even the NY Times and major FDA authorities are resigning because they're sick of the bullshit people like you keep pushing.

The irony here is that you have far more in common with President Biden than you realize.

 

[Crazyhole]

The problem is that mRNA continues to be an incomplete vector ... and the pro-vax crowd has become as bad as the anti-vax crowd.

As I posted in another thread ... we have a delusional political base backed by US and Social Media assumption utter odds with authorities and experts who are tired of the data not matching what we're doing.

Just let it go. Yes, the mRNA vaccines provide incomplete protection but who cares anymore? You aren't going to get a cookie for being right.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Obviously you cannot even word count. Don't worry, you guys are still taking up 10x the scroll-bar.

And you guys still won't stop tagging me, and are getting even more people to respond to me when I'm not even posting.

At some point, you're utter hypocrisy is just laughable.

When did I disagree with this? Why do you keep arguing with someone who doesn't exist?

Meanwhile ... you still haven't admitted you were utterly wrong about the spread, among countless other things. You have no credibility.

Sigh ...

I was never an expert. But now even the NY Times and major FDA authorities are resigning because they're sick of the bullshit people like you keep pushing.

The irony here is that you have far more in common with President Biden than you realize.

So why is a 400lb, fat,disgusting pig who works in IT and can’t hold a job trying to act like he’s the foremost expert in vaccines and Covid posting in the cesspool WC to 10 people?

 

[Ucfmikes]

Meanwhile ... you still haven't admitted you were utterly wrong about the spread, among countless other things. You have no credibility.

You have absolutely no credibility. You never worked in anything remotely related to vaccines. That includes immunology, epidemiology, virology, etc. You have absolutely no medical training whatsoever and have more medical issues than this entire board combined. You have been a patient 100x more than you have treated one. You are the absolute joke and laughing stock of 2 UCF forums

 

[Ucfmikes]

Meanwhile ... you still haven't admitted you were utterly wrong about the spread, among countless other things. You have no credibility.

Show me one single article that mRNA vaccines don’t help REDUCE spread, decrease hospitalizations and death. Just one. YOU CAN’T. No credibility

 

[Ucfmikes]

You aren't going to get a cookie for being right.

He wants a cookie for being right, wrong and indifferent. You should see this guy in person. It’s a sight.

 

[Crazyhole]

Show me one single article that mRNA vaccines don’t help REDUCE spread, decrease hospitalizations and death. Just one. YOU CAN’T. No credibility

You serious? It's not exactly a secret that they don't reduce the spread of the virus.

CDC: COVID vaccines won’t stop transmission; Fully vaccinated can still get, spread Delta strain

WASHINGTON — COVID-19 vaccine will not stop transmission of the virus, U.S. Centers for Disease Control Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

www.stardem.com

 

[Ucfmikes]

You serious? It's not exactly a secret that they don't reduce the spread of the virus.

CDC: COVID vaccines won’t stop transmission; Fully vaccinated can still get, spread Delta strain

WASHINGTON — COVID-19 vaccine will not stop transmission of the virus, U.S. Centers for Disease Control Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

www.stardem.com

It slows the spread. It doesn’t stop it. It was NEVER intended to stop it

 

[Ucfmikes]

Two studies1,2 from Israel, posted as preprints on 16 July, find that two doses of the vaccine made by pharmaceutical company Pfizer, based in New York City, and biotechnology company BioNTech, based in Mainz, Germany, are 81% effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. And vaccinated people who do get infected are up to 78% less likely to spread the virus to household members than are unvaccinated people. Overall, this adds up to very high protection against transmission, say researchers.

The studies reflect population-level trends, say researchers. “It’s good news,” says Natalie Dean, a biostatistician at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. “But it’s not quite good enough,” she notes, because it means that vaccinated people can still occasionally spread the infection

 

[Ucfmikes]

You serious? It's not exactly a secret that they don't reduce the spread of the virus.

CDC: COVID vaccines won’t stop transmission; Fully vaccinated can still get, spread Delta strain

WASHINGTON — COVID-19 vaccine will not stop transmission of the virus, U.S. Centers for Disease Control Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

www.stardem.com

I bet @UCFBS can’t explain why it slows/reduces spread

 

[Crazyhole]

It slows the spread. It doesn’t stop it. It was NEVER intended to stop it

Of course it wasn't, but there are a hell of a lot of people that think it was. Now they are pissed because they feel like they were sold a false bill of goods, and in some ways they were.

 

[Crazyhole]

I bet @UCFBS can’t explain why it slows/reduces spread

I'll bet he can, and will in a long winded rant. In the end, all that needs to be said is that it helps with the level of viral load and all of the things that come with it. Nobody gives a shit about the minutiae behind "why".

 

[Ucfmikes]

Of course it wasn't, but there are a hell of a lot of people that think it was. Now they are pissed because they feel like they were sold a false bill of goods, and in some ways they were.

I get it, and that is probably true, but our WC experts act like it’s a complete failure

Do you think anti-vaxxer, anti-big Pharma UCFBShithead would admit that it REDUCES SPREAD? Hell no. He wants a cookie for always thinking he’s absolutely correct. HE IS WRONG!

 

[Ucfmikes]

I'll bet he can, and will in a long winded rant. In the end, all that needs to be said is that it helps with the level of viral load and all of the things that come with it. Nobody gives a shit about the minutiae behind "why".

He would never

 

[Crazyhole]

I get it, and that is probably true, but our WC experts act like it’s a complete failure

Do you think anti-vaxxer, anti-big Pharma UCFBShithead would admit that it REDUCES SPREAD? Hell no. He wants a cookie for always thinking he’s absolutely correct. HE IS WRONG!

I dont understand why you think that, to be honest. Outside of a select few stories that are obviously made up, most of what is shared and discussed is just statistics and ongoing research. BS deserves criticism for being weird and obnoxiously long-winded, but not because he posts something that is data driven.

 

[Ucfmikes]

I dont understand why you think that, to be honest. Outside of a select few stories that are obviously made up, most of what is shared and discussed is just statistics and ongoing research. BS deserves criticism for being weird and obnoxiously long-winded, but not because he posts something that is data driven.

Then he can come out and admit that the vaccines SLOW THE SPREAD

 

[Crazyhole]

Then he can come out and admit that the vaccines SLOW THE SPREAD

Slow the spread among who? Gotta be more specific.

 

[UCFBS]

It slows the spread. It doesn’t stop it. It was NEVER intended to stop it

I call bullshit right there. You repeatedly called me an idiot from the get-go, and you have utterly backtracked on that. You literally couldn't separate spread from disease, and said I was an idiot for not realizing they are related.

And then you had various other comments about how I made up terms. Sigh ... you have literally proved you're ignorant, repeatedly.

 

[Ucfmikes]

I call bullshit right there. You repeatedly called me an idiot from the get-go, and you have utterly backtracked on that. You literally couldn't separate spread from disease, and said I was an idiot for not realizing they are related.

And then you had various other comments about how I made up terms. Sigh ... you have literally proved you're ignorant, repeatedly.

I’m not backtracking on one damn thing

Medical people ( which you are clearly not) do not refer to patients as “diseased.” You try to practice medicine through Google. I bet many physicians have thrown your fat ass out of the office and have told you to stop telling them how to practice medicine

Do the vaccines slow down the spread of COVID or not? We already know that they slow down severe “disease” if your definition means being severely ill, but who knows what the F you are talking about half the time. SIGH

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

I’m not backtracking on one damn thing

Medical people ( which you are clearly not) do not refer to patients as “diseased.” You try to practice medicine through Google. I bet many physicians have thrown your fat ass out of the office and have told you to stop telling them how to practice medicine

Do the vaccines slow down the spread of COVID or not? We already know that they slow down severe “disease” if your definition means being severely ill, but who knows what the F you are talking about half the time. SIGH

I thought BS threw a little shit fit and quit the boards for two months. Looks like this little narcissist baby has for the billionth time cried wolf.

 

[OLearyLastCall]

Great post! Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you're alive!

 

[Ucfmikes]

I thought BS threw a little shit fit and quit the boards for two months. Looks like this little narcissist baby has for the billionth time cried wolf.

He quits every 1-2 months

 

[Boston.Knight]

Shuck, I don't want to debate anything here. I was NEVER antivax . never. I just waited too long and Covid beat me to it. it's just that simple. What I am though is a scientist. I am skeptical by nature and question most things.

I called a good friend in Port Orange when I landed and told him my update. He said he was going to a funeral Saturday. He had a friend in his church in his early 50s get the vax last week and was dead in 72 hours from it. I don't see the vaccine as the ultimate solution here and I see it's flaws and it's benefits . I went to a friend's funeral a week ago Sunday.Covid killed him. He was fully vaxxed ,and offered no early treatment what so ever. The virus sucks no matter how you slice it or where you sit on these issues. Please, don't lose your humanity towards those who see life a little different especially with the pandemic. Vax or no vax our nation has been turned upside down by this and hundreds of thousands paid the ultimate price regardless.

So, thank you. I am wanting to share some good news, not debate ,not to point fingers, rather just rejoice on being on the other side of it all. I went to a football game and just lived in the moment of each day . It was special.

Amen brother, what's going on now with early treatment is criminal. What the tools on this fourm don't realize is that they are being used by pharma. This is called "useful idiots".

Pharma has spun up a narrative pitting early treatment against vaccines. The problem is it's not reality. Everyone needs early treatment. Vaccinated, unvaccinated. They have spun up the horse wormer narrative against Ivermectin to clear the runway for Merck's poison molnupiravir, which will be coming out in October.

Come on guys, we can do better here. Don't be a useful idiot. Leave vaccination status out of the conversation of early treatment.